So let's look at the big picture: Are politics in America permanently fukked?

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It remains to be seen how this Trump bullshyt will pan out. We'll just have to see what happens in 2018 and 2020, and beyond.

But regardless of that, none of what's already happened can be undone or taken back. The last five years or so have been easily the most hyperpartisian and divisive time in most of our lifetimes. We're at a point where half of voters are literally :scust: at the other half. To the point where it's spilling into entertainment, workplaces, everything. Congress won't even do anything when one party has a majority, much less when both parties have some power. And let's be reality, however midterms and 2020 go, what happened has already happened and won't be forgotten. It's pretty hard to imagine the hyperpartisan shyt will just go away after another election or two and things will go back to normal. Even if Trump loses or gets impeached, this MAGA shyt will likely be here to stay.



So the question I'm posing is....is this going to be the status quo for American politics from now on? Will we somehow go back to the way politics was in more stable times, or is it going to be like this for however much longer America is around?
 
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acri1 said:
Refresh my memory breh...what was going on then that did damage?

I know Clinton was president, but 2000 was the first election I can actually remember paying attention to.
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Explain, I was ten in 94
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The Republican Revolution in 1994 happened. Newt Gingrich and them won a majority in the senate and house at the same time for the first time since 1954. They took over state legislatures as well.

Now the Republicans taking over wasnt a big deal in normal terms. The issue was that new crop of Republicans were the foundation of the hyper-partisan shyt we see today. They worked with themselves only to pass bills, went on Fox News - which debuted in 1996 - and did not want to work with Dems on anything. They forced Clinton to move even more to the right than he already campaigned, and they were the ones who pushed the Ken Starr investigation from a shady real estate deal to impeaching Clinton for lying about getting head.

They started this trajectory and Trump is doing their work. The way politics worked is over unless there are some changes to the constitution.
 
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mastermind said:
The Republican Revolution in 1994 happened. Newt Gingrich and them won a majority in the senate and house at the same time for the first time since 1954. They took over state legislatures as well.

Now the Republicans taking over wasnt a big deal in normal terms. The issue was that new crop of Republicans were the foundation of the hyper-partisan shyt we see today. They worked with themselves only to pass bills, went on Fox News - which debuted in 1996 - and did not want to work with Dems on anything. They forced Clinton to move even more to the right than he already campaigned, and they were the ones who pushed the Ken Starr investigation from a shady real estate deal to impeaching Clinton for lying about getting head.

They started this trajectory and Trump is doing their work. The way politics worked is over unless there are some changes to the constitution.
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Been telling people this, particularly my mom. She would tell me how it wasn't always this way and I'd respond that this is all I've known. Trump is the culmination of what Republicans have been over the past 20-25 years.
 
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All I see is white men ready to bring back Nazism to ‘save themsleves’

America may become the new Rwanda if they aren’t careful. Stop acting like it can’t happen in your country. In two years you already have concentration camps for kids, and black people are being murdered with more impunity than ever.
 
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