So let's look at the big picture: Are politics in America permanently fukked?

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Politics is never stable and change is constant. The reality is not everyone will agree or accept what quantifies as "change".

With that said, all trump was reignite the bogeyman in the room that we always knew was there. You know the whole :mjpls: body language. Despite people swearing up and down that they're not racist, because they have a black friend from hs that they grew up with or because the concept of discrimination and marginalization immediately ended during the civil rights era.

The truth is people will be forced to comfort more unfortunate realities. Issues in America and throughout the other advanced democracies have to get a lot worse before they get better.

True hange and evolution will almost always be incremental and slowly. Otherwise the end result as far as humans are concerned is a bunch of passive aggressive behavioral facades.
 

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All I see is white men ready to bring back Nazism to ‘save themsleves’

America may become the new Rwanda if they aren’t careful. Stop acting like it can’t happen in your country. In two years you already have concentration camps for kids, and black people are being murdered with more impunity than ever.
Right now, this country is headed towards a much bloodier version of the Years of lead.

We've been seeing flare ups but the big one is gonna pop off when people start actively clapping Nazis like the Red Brigades were doing in the past.
 

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This might actually be the point where people snap out of it and realize that we've been on this trajectory for decades, that money in politics has become the deciding factor on issues and hopefully make people more aware of rhetoric or the need to be more discerning about what they're told...but that's an optimistic take that is probably not gonna change much. The power players have too much power and it'll be hard to reverse this...but we're not beyond hope yet imo.
 

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A populist demagogue with the military backing him.
That’s what I expect if Mueller doesn’t bring him down. That it’d take a military coup to remove him from office. Mueller’s team is basically the last hope to preserve a functioning democracy in the country.
 

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The internet is two-fold though. It helped Obama in 2008 immensly... the issue is can the left get out of hibernation, organize and do something better than that?

Also, the money in politics has also ruined everything. Yes, America has historically been run by the rich but there used to be more constraints on them from the 1930s until Reagan. They won't be brought to heel unless there's a threat of revolution and ending the system we have right now.

The Republicans obviously mastered this with cutting taxes, funelling back into campaign contributions, taking over states, suppressing the vote, and having one party rule with gerry mandering. There's more right wing billionaires pulling the strings.

Like @mastermind said we need constitution changes... money in politics limited, election campaigns shorter, elimination of gerry mandering, voting rights act restored and sharpened, and I'd rather have a parliamentary system.
 
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