So let's talk about the 13th Amendment..the one that freed the slaves...

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One of the great things about going to Howard for law school is that we were able to look at the laws of the land through the lens of race, class and gender. Looking at the constitution, and some of the current issues we are facing, I really think a lot of the systemic issues that we deal with today are a direct result of the way the 13th amendment was written.....Before I go into any detail, I'd like to present the text in full for you to really take in for a bit.

For this specific thread, let's focus on Section 1


Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.



Can anyone spot the issue?
 
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They left a loophole. They can create laws and then jail you to slavery. They can do that at their discretion. So you have 6% of the population making up 40% of the prison population. It's by design and it takes a lot of resources to carry out. Media, law enforcement, govt, and major corporations all work in tandem to keep this slave system alive.


They never intended on freeing us they were just going to take it from the planters and make it a govt ran.

Intelligent analysis is needed to combat these intricate resource rich systems.

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Canadadry said:
Slavery / involuntarily servitude s allowed as long as they can punish you for a crime. I know they use to do that to blacks right after slavery
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Exactly.

This is the nefarious lightbulb:

Slavemasters watch as their cash cow walks off the land...taking with them the legacy and profit that their forced labor privileged them too.

Frustrated... and almost down and out... a lightbulb brightens...:ohhh:


Wait... look at the language, "except as punishment for a crime."

"We are the aristocracy, right? Breh, WE OWN the legislature! They create the laws!"

"Wait... :patrice: you mean we lobby to have vagrancy, unemployment, and other arbitrary laws, crimes, and violations added to the books and targeting blacks and force them into prison sentences and fines they can't pay!"

And so went the progessive era, where arbitrary laws resulted in droves of black men forced into sentences and fines they couldn't afford...

Leading companies and plantations to PAY the fine for the convict and, essentially, purchase their sentence."

Many Blacks couldn't read and were not represented... their sentences were never told to them and in came what is documented in the Pulitzer Prize winning book Slavery by Another Name.

Great thread, by the way.

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Enzo said:
I'm glad that I see minds opening up and delving deeper....

Another question I would like to posit.... Who would be the enforcers of this so called exception?........ and if you look into the history books... how were they enforcing this....
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This ain't anything new. When you're sworn in as an attorney and start practicing law, that's when your mind gets blown. And you'll realize just how fukked many lay persons, especially blacks, are.

:salute:to black men getting their Juris Doctors.
 
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Enzo said:
I'm glad that I see minds opening up and delving deeper....

Another question I would like to posit.... Who would be the enforcers of this so called exception?........ and if you look into the history books... how were they enforcing this....
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The police are the enforcers on the ground. They are liken to the merchants that brought slaves over to the US. For instance. Slave owners would want specific slaves for specific purposes so they would have to know where to get the slaves. Slaves from modern day Angola were brought here to build the wrought iron balconies in South Carolina and New Orleans. This was due to their successful iron working industry.

The police carry out similar methods. But since the importation of slaves stopped in the US and breeding farms were introduced. It became in-house. We would liken the projects and areas like it to breeding farms of old.

The police find targets and they are then tried in court. These are the next enforcers. The judge, jury, DA, prosecutors etc. They examine the captured and determine the length of servitude. These are the people who carry out the day to day on the ground enforcement.

The police are more liken to those merchants and not overseers because the overseer is the prison guards themselves. Two different functions, for clarity.
 
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