YOU SURE?
BIG NOR MA$E WOULD WANT
TO BE CREDITED ON ANY SONGS
BECAUSE PUFF OWNED THEIR PUBLISHING
So Ma$e Wrote Half Of Lil Kim's Debut....
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YOU SURE?
BIG NOR MA$E WOULD WANT
TO BE CREDITED ON ANY SONGS
BECAUSE PUFF OWNED THEIR PUBLISHING
Playaz Eyez
Veteran
“S/O To Me” is clearly a Drake timestamp track. Or a Hush track. Or a Daylyt track. Or a Loaded Lux track. Basically any battle rapper that was coming to Drake’s defense while he was being pummeled.Wait till yall find out Drake been writing for Latto…
WHAT DOES CAM MEETING BIG
HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
MA$E WAS WRITING ON KIMS ALBUM...
MA$E HAD CAM WRITE CRUSH ON YOU
AND GAVE CAM SOME OF THE
GHOST WRITING MONEY HE
RECIEVED FROM THE PROJECT.
CAM PERSONALLY DIDNT
KNOW THOSE nikkaS YET.
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
YOU SURE?
BIG NOR MA$E WOULD WANT
TO BE CREDITED ON ANY SONGS
BECAUSE PUFF OWNED THEIR PUBLISHING
You right, I was trying to figure it out a while ago but its not in the credits. I think its 8 songs based on whats known. The other half of the album could be Ma$e, Cam etc with some crossover on some songs.
These ones:
No Time - Biggie flow and cadence, plus his adlibs in the background. Actually should be credited anyway because his lyrics from 'Can't Stop The Reign' are sampled. Possibly some other lyrics were reused but I can't place it atm.
Crush On You - Hes credited on spotify but not sure if thats reliable. He may have changed a few of Cam's lines or written the hook, as he does perform it with Cease.
Drugs - Sounds like a straight up Biggie impression, and the Biggie demo version is out there, it also appeared on the Faith Evans, BIG & The LOX version years later.
Queen bytch - This was released as a BIG freestyle, and theres also a Biggie demo version on youtube.
Dreams - Even if Kim or somebody else wrote it, its a close rewrite of the Biggie song.
MAFIA Land - I'm not certain about this one but I can definitely hear the chorus in Biggies voice.
We Don't Need It - 100% wrote the Cease verse and probably the whole song. The version on Sunset Park OST has Biggie adlibs so he was in the studio for it.
fukk You - He actually is credited on this, possibly just the Kim verse.
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So a man wrote NOT TONIGHT huh!!
Mmmmmm
Mmmmmm
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
WHAT DOES CAM MEETING BIG
HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?
MA$E WAS WRITING ON KIMS ALBUM...
MA$E HAD CAM WRITE CRUSH ON YOU
AND GAVE CAM SOME OF THE
GHOST WRITING MONEY HE
RECIEVED FROM THE PROJECT.
CAM PERSONALLY DIDNT
KNOW THOSE nikkaS YET.
Un said when he met Cam, it was right before he signed him, in '97. Hardcore was done mostly in '95, and then early '96.
When they asked about him and Kim falling out, he spoke about how B.I.G. and Klepto wrote Hardcore, and how he was funding Kim's career and paying her rent and how he was doing that for B.I.G. under the table because he couldn't get bread writing because of his deal with Puff. Klepto said B.I.G. wrote most of the album, which is why there were so many of the references for those songs floating around on mixtapes at the time, and online now. And he said he wrote the sh*t B.I.G. didn't write.
B.I.G. had a whole segment on BET at the video for "Crush on You", behind the scenes with Kim rocking the yellow wig and outfit. In that special, he speaks about writing both Kim's and Cease's verses and says that he's gonna make sure that they're "the future". B.I.G. literally said he thought about keeping the song for himself, and then said "But at least I'm still on the hook". This was always common knowledge.
Cam and Mase ain't write none of that sh*t, lol.
CAM SAID HE WROTE
CRUSH ON YOU 14 YEARS AGO.
Cam'ron Reveals He Wrote Lil' Cease's Verse On "Crush On You"
Killa airs out details about one of his early ghostwriting exploits.
hiphopdx.com
HE SAYS IT AGAIN
3 YEARS AGO ON DRINK CHAMPS
AND SAID MA$E DID 5 SONGS
IF IT WAS CAP SOMEONE
COULD HAVE DISPUTED BY NOW.
YOU WEREN'T THERE.
YOU A FAN SPEAKING ON THINGS AS FACT.
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
CAM SAID HE WROTE
CRUSH ON YOU 14 YEARS AGO.
Cam'ron Reveals He Wrote Lil' Cease's Verse On "Crush On You"
Killa airs out details about one of his early ghostwriting exploits.
HE SAYS IT AGAIN
3 YEARS AGO ON DRINK CHAMPS
AND SAID MA$E DID 5 SONGS
IF IT WAS CAP SOMEONE
COULD HAVE DISPUTED BY NOW.
YOU WEREN'T THERE.
YOU A FAN SPEAKING ON THINGS AS FACT.
I don’t doubt that. But it's still a lie.
Thing is with Cam, he sticks to a lot of lies he tells. But nobody ever backs them. Damn near 30 years ago, we all heard and saw who was involved with the album. Even Stretch Armstrong talked about giving B.I.G. the beat for "Big Momma Thang" and how he was paid for the record. Jay said he was with him when they recorded the song. Anyone that's ever been around Cam or met him, knows he lies like a rug. It's just who he is.
Like saying he was a top recruit for ball in the 90's, in the city. Another lie. Thing is, most people weren't around back then, or even knew who he was. So all of his lies are about sh*t from 2-3 decades ago because he knows his following today is too young to know. But they're still lies, lol. B.I.G. was literally on TV in real time speaking about writing what he did on the album. His references for the songs have been out there heard for years. Un financed the album, credited B.I.G. and Klepto. It is what it is. Cease literally said that B.I.G. wrote all of his rhymes when he was alive. These are the actual people who made the records, saying the same sh*t B.I.G. said.
Cam and Mase ain't write none of that sh*t. Next, they'll be saying they ghosted Big L's sh*t. Come on.
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30 YEARS AGO
WHY WOULD THEY TELL
YOU 2 UNKNOWNS IN CAM AND MA$E
WORKED ON THE ALBUM?
STOP ACTING NAIVE TO THE INDUSTRY
DRAKE AND KANYE GOT
WRITING CREDITS FOR OTHER PPL
AND THEY DONT EVEN WRITE.
nikkaS HAVE HAD 14 YEARS
TO CALL CAM OUT FOR CAP.
CAM AND MA$E WEREN'T EVEN COOL
WHEN CAM SAID THIS ON
MULTIPLE OCCASIONS
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
30 YEARS AGO
WHY WOULD THEY TELL
YOU 2 UNKNOWNS IN CAM AND MA$E
WORKED ON THE ALBUM?
STOP ACTING NAIVE TO THE INDUSTRY
DRAKE AND KANYE GOT
WRITING CREDITS FOR OTHER PPL
AND THEY DONT EVEN WRITE.
nikkaS HAVE HAD 14 YEARS
TO CALL CAM OUT FOR CAP.
CAM AND MA$E WEREN'T EVEN COOL
WHEN CAM SAID THIS ON
MULTIPLE OCCASIONS
Neither of them were unknown back then.
Mase was heavy on mixtapes in NYC. Those freestyles with LOX were classics. He was on TV all the time. Cam was doing the underground thing, and he was on Big L's album. People knew them, who followed sh*t. But they weren't ghosting for Kim and Cease. Kim never cared about saying she had writers. The sh*t she wrote, she would say. The sh*t other people did, she would say.
Her and Cease were B.I.G.'s artists. When they were dropping, B.I.G. was in every magazine talking about writing for them, just like he was saying on TV. Everybody around them was saying the same. Nobody knew who Klepto was. He never even had an album or single. He was known for boosting Polo. But everybody knows he was writing for Kim. This wasn't some secret. But now 30 years later, we're gonna rewrite history and say everybody back then was lying? LOL!! Nah.
This is common knowledge. Having a podcast today, doesn't mean we rewrite sh*t because the people you're trying to discredit ain't alive anymore.
YOURE DONESANTA CLAUS ISNT REAL
IF BIG SAID HE PENNED
EVERYTHING HES A FRAUD.
Lance "Un" Rivera: Mase was Broke, Wrote
"Crush on You" for Biggie for $7,500
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
It wouldn't be a lie if they both worked on the song, which is what I would guess is actually the case, without anything to prove either way.
NAAAH nikkaBIG WAS OUT HERE
PAYING STARVING ARTISTS TO
GHOST WRITE FOR HIS ARTISTS
THEN TAKING THE CREDIT
FOR THE GHOSTWRITING
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
You posted that already. Its not like he goes in depth on how the song was written.
