So, me and the homies had a conversation about "Not Snitching"

[CriticalThought]

Hmm. You can't fault a criminal for killing a witness to stop from doing 30 but you WILL condemn a criminal for snitching NOT to do 30?

Absolutely. If there's no code then it'll definitely go down. A criminal is gonna save their ass. Long story short, nobody forced them to drop dime on that person. If it's bad enough someone will do it. If not, let street justice handle it....it usually does. I just find it strange that you could inform on a person who was in on it from the jump to save yourself. I don't find it strange that a person would kill a witness or someone cooperating to stop a case (what loyalty does the criminal have to the witness?). It comes back to codes and how people operate. Personally bystanders should be off limits. But if bystanders want to put themselves in the game then its on them.

 

[Taadow]

nikka what? are you being serious right now, so lets be honest, out of all the crimes that take place, you don't believe that in those cases involving multiple parties, no one is trying to get less time?

Where in the Trans-Siberian Fucc did I say that?

I just motherfuccing said that people (in general) don't always abide by codes.
Just because they choose not to abide by them doesn't mean such codes do not exist.

 

[Mandarin Duck]

I think regular citizens shouldn't live by the "no snitching" mentality. But if you do bad things accept the consequences.
I sold weed before. No big time shyt but I did. And I said to myself if I get caught I'm not giving up info on my supplier because nobody forced me to do what I did. I chose to do it and I would be fully ready to accept the consequences of my actions.
But that's just a level of ethics I have for myself

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Everything has to operate by rules. Without rules there's disorder. I hate snitches because snitches breed more snitches. Instead of doing your dirt and eating those years like a man, you'd rather rat on people you know or don't know just to make it another day

Why don't murderers, fraudsters, robbers or drug lords turn themselves in if they're such stand-up guys?

shyt it about survival, period. Can't do the time? Hire a good lawyer

 

[CriticalThought]

Why don't murderers, fraudsters, robbers or drug lords turn themselves in if they're such stand-up guys?

shyt it about survival, period. Can't do the time? Hire a good lawyer

That's on them. That's the difference between crime and organized crime. Organized crime polices itself. It tells you can and what better not do. Regular crime is limited by how far you're willing to take it.
That's why I stay out of shyt so I don't have to make choices like that. shyt its not my job to stop crime, that's why they pay police. I don't believe in snitching, that's why I don't do dirt for a living. It keeps me and people I'm around safe.

 

[ignorethis]

Not everybody snitches.
It's not hard to find a nikka doing 5/10/20 because he didn't snitch.

Organized crime still exist, it wouldn't if everybody was snitching.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Why don't murderers, fraudsters, robbers or drug lords turn themselves in if they're such stand-up guys?

shyt it about survival, period. Can't do the time? Hire a good lawyer

They really acting like these dudes are good people breh, shyt is perplexing.

 

[ignorethis]

They really acting like these dudes are good people breh, shyt is perplexing.

Moral relativity

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Not everybody snitches.
It's not hard to find a nikka doing 5/10/20 because he didn't snitch.

Organized crime still exist, it wouldn't if everybody was snitching.

Just stop. Organized crime as an entity is a tall task to tackle. And the higher up you get the more money is present. Low level people who are the most likely to be caught with work snitch on other low level people all the time.

 

[CriticalThought]

They really acting like these dudes are good people breh, shyt is perplexing.

Nobody is saying they're good people. Obviously not if they're criminals (depending on the crime). shyts complex like life. Everybody operates on their own shyt. I could tell you some stories where nikkas tried to get me caught up. In addition where just being in the wrong place, wrong time with the wrong person almost got me caught up also. Like the previous poster stated, there's some relatively at play also. I agree it is perplexing. That's why the best way not to have to deal with it, is not to be around any shyt that'd make you have to do that from the jump.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

Nobody is saying they're good people. Obviously not if they're criminals (depending on the crime). shyts complex like life. Everybody operates on their own shyt. I could tell you some stories where nikkas tried to get me caught up. In addition where just being in the wrong place, wrong time with the wrong person almost got me caught up also. Like the previous poster stated, there's some relatively at play also. I agree it is perplexing. That's why the best way not to have to deal with it, is not to be around any shyt that'd make you have to do that from the jump.

I completely agree 100% with this point. However, my initial point was, the logic behind "not snitching" is flawed due to the nature of the criminal activity, notice I wasn't talking about low level drug dealing, or petty theft, I specifically replied to crimes, that the average person would not partake in. As there are "levels to this shyt" but once you reach a certain level, snitching makes sense. As I wouldn't expect someone capable of the murder of several people or high level drug dealing, to sit back and "do the right thing" because it would be ethical to do so.

 

[ignorethis]

Just stop. Organized crime as an entity is a tall task to tackle. And the higher up you get the more money is present. Low level people who are the most likely to be caught with work snitch on other low level people all the time.

What's low level?
If you're talking about a dude that's just out doing crime because they broke won't get a job, and need some money that one thing.
But there are career criminals, that treat their crimes like jobs, whether selling drugs, fraud, robbing, these dude operate way different from the former.

You say "Higher up" like its something far and distant from the regular person's life. There probably probably a dude clearing 500,000 a year illegally in your momma neighborhood, and he's just midlevel.

Crime is everywhere, only the dude that suck committing crime get caught, that's why it seems like people always snitch.

Not everybody has the same ethics, this is like asking why are there US soldier that get captured and tortured and stil don't break and give up information. Why are their dudes that get killed for not letting nikkas know where the stash is. It all those cases it makes sense to start talking, but because the person in question personal ethics don't match up with that.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

What's low level?
If you're talking about a dude that's just out doing crime because they broke won't get a job, and need some money that one thing.
But there are career criminals, that treat their crimes like jobs, whether selling drugs, fraud, robbing, these dude operate way different from the former.

You say "Higher up" like its something far and distant from the regular person's life. There probably probably a dude clearing 500,000 a year illegally in your momma neighborhood, and he's just midlevel.
Crime is everywhere, only the dude that suck committing crime get caught, that's why it seems like people always snitch.

You know damn well that isn't the case. People who have made millions to 100's of millions have been caught committing crimes breh. And that includes blue collar, white collar, gang members, etc..

 

[CriticalThought]

I completely agree 100% with this point. However, my initial point was, the logic behind "not snitching" is flawed due to the nature of the criminal activity, notice I wasn't talking about low level drug dealing, or petty theft, I specifically replied to crimes, that the average person would not partake in. As there are "levels to this shyt" but once you reach a certain level, snitching makes sense. As I wouldn't expect someone capable of the murder of several people or high level drug dealing, to sit back and "do the right thing" because it would be ethical to do so.

But cats have gotten serious time for seemingly low level shyt. I knew a person who snitched. He got less time, dude he fukked with got hit harder. Long story short they found him with a few holes in his head. He wasn't the man, he just snitched. It sucks they killed him, but objectively I can understand why they did. He made a deal at the expense of someone else. If he had not snitched, he still might be behind bars but he'd be alive. Because he didn't watch his back, they got him. I'm just against snitching because you never know what's gonna happen because of it. You never know. So if you're gonna be about that life, you better play the game correct.

 

[ignorethis]

You know damn well that isn't the case. People who have made millions to 100's of millions have been caught committing crimes breh.

And a lot of people that have made 100 of millions through crime haven't been caught. But I should have said most of the guys that get caught are caught because they're aren't good at committing crime. Every once in a while feds pull out extra resources to bring down big dogs, but it's not often.

You know the nationally case clearance on fraud, the most profitable crime at the moment, is less than 10% percent.
Matter of fact most crimes never get solved outside of murder and assault because these crimes usually involved personal ties.