So My 8 Year Old Neice Tells me That Her School Gives Her Fluoride Pills. . .

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LeyeT said:
studies you posted :russ: but seriously, if it's so great and the science is so exact then why do so many people oppose it?

For the same reasons many people think the Holocaust never happened, the Egyptian pyramids were built by aliens, and the Earth is only a couple thousand years old.​
 
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LeyeT said:
so basically we're drugging the entire population lol

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OBJECTION: Fluoridation is compulsory medication in that everyone is compelled to drink fluoridated water.

APPRAISAL: Lull, Secretary and General Manager of the American Medical Association, has answered this objection directly. He has stated "It is claimed by some that the community has no right to force them to take undesired medication. This is a double-barreled fallacy because, to begin with, fluoridation is not medication; it is adjustment to normal of a deficient fluorine content in water in certain areas where needed. In the second place, no one is forced to use the public water supply; bottled water can be purchased. The public water supply is in the nature of a public utility, like gas or electricity; it is a convenience but is in no sense a right. Although commonly run by the municipality, it may be a private enterprise in the same manner as electricity or gas, which in some areas are publicly owned and in others, privately."

Dietz, Assistant Attorney General, of the State of California has analyzed the contention of compulsion to drink fluoridated municipal waters in relationship to constitutional guarantees of freedom. Dietz has stated that the freedom of belief is absolute whereas the freedom to act is not. Therefore, a person may think and believe as he wishes, for or against fluoridation. However, fluoridation does not limit his right to act as he sees fit. Specifically, there is no legal compulsion. The objector may drink, or not drink fluoridated water, as he wishes. Dietz cited numerous decisions of courts to substantiate his conclusions. Black cites numerous additional cases which support further this philosophy in court decisions, including one by the Supreme Court of the United States.

The evidence indicates clearly that fluoridation is neither medication nor compulsion and that the objection is invalid.
 
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For the same reasons many people think the Holocaust never happened, the Egyptian pyramids were built by aliens, and the Earth is only a couple thousand years old.​

weak.


OBJECTION: Fluoridation is compulsory medication in that everyone is compelled to drink fluoridated water.

APPRAISAL: Lull, Secretary and General Manager of the American Medical Association, has answered this objection directly. He has stated "It is claimed by some that the community has no right to force them to take undesired medication. This is a double-barreled fallacy because, to begin with, fluoridation is not medication; it is adjustment to normal of a deficient fluorine content in water in certain areas where needed. In the second place, no one is forced to use the public water supply; bottled water can be purchased. The public water supply is in the nature of a public utility, like gas or electricity; it is a convenience but is in no sense a right. Although commonly run by the municipality, it may be a private enterprise in the same manner as electricity or gas, which in some areas are publicly owned and in others, privately."

Dietz, Assistant Attorney General, of the State of California has analyzed the contention of compulsion to drink fluoridated municipal waters in relationship to constitutional guarantees of freedom. Dietz has stated that the freedom of belief is absolute whereas the freedom to act is not. Therefore, a person may think and believe as he wishes, for or against fluoridation. However, fluoridation does not limit his right to act as he sees fit. Specifically, there is no legal compulsion. The objector may drink, or not drink fluoridated water, as he wishes. Dietz cited numerous decisions of courts to substantiate his conclusions. Black cites numerous additional cases which support further this philosophy in court decisions, including one by the Supreme Court of the United States.

The evidence indicates clearly that fluoridation is neither medication nor compulsion and that the objection is invalid.:ufdup:


the compulsion part i agree with to a certain extent, in the sense that technically no one is forced to do anything.

but the bold is ridiculous. in what areas are people not getting enough fluoride for their teeth?

the facts is fluoride is listed by the fda as a drug, not a nutrient. therefore by definition they are putting a drug into the water supply. this is pretty straightforward, and your post refutes nothing.

and where are the links for all these posts you're quoting?
 

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I'm glad the pro-science crew is in here repping hard body.

"Quote natural news brehs" :troll:


lol the irony.

im the one quoting multiple scientific studies and providing documented proof, while the typical "pro science" crew is referencing blog posts and dropping quotes with no link whatsoever...

with the exception of the one scientific study that included those 150 folks in illinois lol :russ: that was legit
 

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LeyeT said:
the facts is fluoride is listed by the fda as a drug, not a nutrient. therefore by definition they are putting a drug into the water supply. this is pretty straightforward, and your post refutes nothing.

If that post didn't, this one will.......​

OBJECTION: Fluoridation is mass medicine.

APPRAISAL: Dean has answered this objection directly stating "any assumption that fluoride is mass medication reveals a lack of knowledge of the carious process and its associated pathology. Medication implies the application of a medicinal substance or agent for the treatment or cure of a disease - the application of remedies. Fluoridation is not a cure or treatment for dental caries. Dental caries produces a nonhealing lesion; dental enamel once injured never repairs itself, with or without medication. Fluorine simply prevents the decay from happening. In short, fluoridation of public water supplies simulates a purely natural phenomenon - a prophylaxis which nature has clearly outlined in those communities that are fortunate enough to have about 1.0 ppm of fluorine naturally present in the water supply, such as Denver, CO, Aurora, Il, and many others."

Black has published similar views and points out that 1401 public water supplies serving 4,188, 000 consumers in the United States contain more than 0.7 ppm of fluoride. He concludes, as did Dean, that fluoridation consists of "merely a process of supplementation, that is, adjusting a normal constituent of most natural waters to its optimum content from the standpoint of the public's health. Obviously, fluoridation is not medication, either mass or individual. Fluorides in minute quantities are a normal constituent of the human body."


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Dean has answered this objection directly stating...







lol who the fukk is Dean and why should i even care? what are "Dean's" credentials? What were the logistics of the experiments from which "Dean" drew his conclusions?


lol you're a joke dude


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ill also leave this here...

if the fluoride levels in the water are a "safe" dosage, then why are people getting fluorosis in the first place?

and if you're so sure the fluoride levels in the water are safe, then why did the EPA and the Dept. of Health and Human Services recommend lowering the lfuoride levels in the water in 2011?

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/07/fluoride.recommendations/index.html

(CNN) -- The federal government is recommending changing the amount of fluoride in drinking water for the first time in 50 years.

The Department of Health and Human Services and Environmental Protection Agency are proposing the change because of an increase in fluorosis -- a condition that causes spotting and streaking on children's teeth.

The government is proposing that the recommended amount of fluoride in drinking water be set at 0.7 milligrams per liter of water. The recommended range has been 0.7 to 1.2 milligrams per liter since 1962. The EPA will determine whether the maximum amount of fluoride allowed in water will also be lowered.

Fluoride was first added to water in the United States in the 1940s to help prevent tooth decay in children 8 years and under.

"One of water fluoridation's biggest advantages is that it benefits all residents of a community -- at home, work, school or play," said Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Health Dr. Howard Koh. "And fluoridation's effectiveness in preventing tooth decay is not limited to children, but extends throughout life, resulting in improved oral health."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says dental fluorosis is highest among adolescents between the ages of 12 an 15. One reason for the increase in fluorosis: Americans now have access to fluoride from a variety of sources, including toothpaste, mouth rinses and prescription supplements, the Department of Health and Human Services says

"Dental fluorosis in the United States appears mostly in the very mild form -- as barely visible lacy white markings or spots on the enamel," The department said in a statement Friday. "The severe form of dental fluorosis, with staining and pitting on the tooth surface, is rare in the United States."

The change is being made now, according to an administration official, because the current range is out of date. He said that in the 1960s, when fluoridating water began, air conditioning was much less common. So children in hotter regions drank more water and needed lower levels of fluoride to protect their teeth, while children in colder climates drank less water and needed higher levels.

"Now since air conditioning is so common," the official said, "you don't see those differences in consumption, and that's why they're getting rid of the range and recommending one level."

The American Dental Association says the new recommended levels will still reduce tooth decay but minimize fluorosis. The group says it continues to support fluoridation of community water as a safe and effective way to prevent tooth decay.

"This is a superb example of a government agency fulfilling its mission to protect and enhance the health of the American people," said ADA President Dr. Raymond F. Gist. "We have always looked to the federal health agencies to guide us on this and other public health matters, and we will continue to do so. We applaud the Department of Health and Human Services for reaffirming the safety and efficacy of optimal community water fluoridation, with science on their side."

The Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization whose goal is to protect public health and the environment, says it has been pushing governmental officials to reduce fluroide levels for years.

"We've had to wait too long, but the government's official, belated -- and perhaps begrudging -- announcement marks its recognition that fluoride policies have been out of step with the science on the tap-water additive's toxicity to children, and that many American children are at risk from excess fluoride in drinking water and other sources," said Jane Houlihan, senior vice president for research at the Environmental Working Group.

"Since 2005, EWG has been calling on federal agencies to respond to these findings, which come from National Academy of Sciences and many others, documenting that excess fluoride exposure poses dangers that range from discolored teeth to potential hormone disruption and neurotoxicity. HHS has taken an important first step. Now it's up to water utilities to respond and for the EPA to lower its high, legal limit on fluoride in drinking water, which is more than five times higher than the new maximum recommended amount."

The recommendations have been submitted to the Federal Register for a 30-day public comment period. The final version is expected this spring.









































































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LeyeT said:
lol who the fukk is Dean and why should i even care? what are "Dean's" credentials? What were the logistics of the experiments from which "Dean" drew his conclusions?

This is Dean......

443px-H-Trendley-Dean.jpeg


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Trendley_Dean
Henry Trendley Dean (August 25, 1893 – May 13, 1962), was the first director of the U.S. National Institute of Dental Research and a pioneer investigator of water fluoridation in the prevention of tooth decay.

Dean was born in Winstanley Park, Illinois (now part of East St. Louis) on August 25, 1893, the son of William Ware and Rosalie Harriet Dean; his mother's maiden name was Trendley. He received his dental degree from St. Louis University in 1916 and entered private practice that year in Wood River, Illinois. During World War I, he served with the United States Army until 1919, when he returned to his practice. Dean married Ruth Martha McEvoy on September 14, 1921. In 1921, he also entered the United States Public Health Service and was stationed in several US Marine Corps hospitals until 1931 when he was placed in charge of dental research at the National Institute of Health, advancing to director of the dental research section in 1945. After World War II, he directed epidemiologic studies for the Army in Germany. When Congress established the National Institute of Dental Research in 1948, Dean was appointed its director, a position he held until retiring in 1953.

Dean's legacy comes almost entirely from his research into fluoridation. At the urging of Dr. Frederick McKay and others concerned with the brown-staining of teeth in certain regions of the country, Dean was asked to make this his first assignment at the Institute. With the help of his fellow investigators and the cooperation of dentists and other health workers in the field, it was established that high amounts of fluorine in drinking water caused mottled enamel on the teeth, while at the same time precipitating lower rates of dental caries (cavities). The rest of Dean's professional life was spent finding the optimal level of fluorine that would prevent tooth decay yet avoid staining teeth.

After his retirement, Dean joined the American Dental Association as Secretary of its Council on Dental Research. In this role, he continued to advocate and defend the addition of fluorine to public drinking water. He was frequently called to speak on the subject in the United States and abroad, mostly to refute the arguments of those who opposed water fluoridation. He died in 1962, after a long-time battle with asthma and emphysema.

The International Association for Dental Research has an award named after Dr. Dean, called the H. Trendley Dean Memorial Award, recognizing meritorious research in epidemiology and public health.

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LeyeT said:
if the fluoride levels in the water are a "safe" dosage, then why are people getting fluorosis in the first place?

Because of the abundance of OTHER sources of fluoride due to civilization. Foodstuffs containing fluoride (a naturally occurring element) are more prevalent across the entire Nation all year long.

You really don't know what you're talking about and your skepticism is neither logically nor factually-based.

You have offered not one shred of evidence to support anything you've posted in this entire thread other than a shady website, a list of 'alternative medicine' practitioners and arguments that were refuted 50 years ago.

The sky is not falling.

 
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You have offered not one shred of evidence to support anything you've posted in this entire thread other than a shady website, a list of 'alternative medicine' practitioners and arguments that were refuted 50 years ago.

The sky is not falling.


They have no facts or evidence to back-up their opinion.​


1) again, from the 2006 NRC Report:
http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety/nas.htm
The 2006 NRC Report on Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards

"In 2006, the NRC stated in this report that in developing regulatory standards for high levels of fluoride in drinking water, three adverse health effects warranted consideration: severe enamel (dental) fluorosis from exposure to these high levels between birth and 8 years of age, risk of bone fractures, and severe forms of skeletal fluorosis (a rare condition in the United States) after lifetime exposure."

2) from the CDC website:
http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/faqs/index.htm
Are children or adults exposed to too much fluoride?

"Based on the data evaluated in this risk assessment, EPA concludes that it is likely that some children 8 and younger are exposed to too much fluoride at least occasionally while their teeth are forming because of their high fluid intake relative to their body weight and/or because of high natural levels of fluoride in their local drinking water. The impact of overexposure on the risk for pitting of enamel in one or more teeth depends on the frequency and duration of the overexposures."





so you see funkdoc, some people, especially children 8 and younger, are at risk for being exposed to too much fluoride with water fluoridation at its CURRENT level, which is probably why they lowered water fluoridation levels in 2011.

so i ask you, if the public water supply was being treated with the proper levels of fluoride then why the need for a government mandate to reduce the levels?



































































:shaq: checkmate














also, ill leave this here:
http://www.fluoridealert.org/content/europe-statements/

1) “Toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies in Austria.
SOURCE: M. Eisenhut, Head of Water Department, Osterreichische Yereinigung fur das Gas-und Wasserfach Schubertring 14, A-1015 Wien, Austria, February 17, 2000.

2) “This water treatment has never been of use in Belgium and will never be (we hope so) into the future. The main reason for that is the fundamental position of the drinking water sector that it is not its task to deliver medicinal treatment to people. This is the sole responsibility of health services.”
SOURCE: Chr. Legros, Directeur, Belgaqua, Brussels, Belgium, February 28, 2000.

3) “We are pleased to inform you that according to the Danish Ministry of Environment and Energy, toxic fluorides have never been added to the public water supplies. Consequently, no Danish city has ever been fluoridated.
SOURCE: Klaus Werner, Royal Danish Embassy, Washington DC, December 22, 1999.

To read the Danish Ministry of the Environment’s reasons for banning fluoridation, click here.

4) “We do not favor or recommend fluoridation of drinking water. There are better ways of providing the fluoride our teeth need.”
SOURCE: Paavo Poteri, Acting Managing Director, Helsinki Water, Finland, February 7, 2000.

“Artificial fluoridation of drinking water supplies has been practiced in Finland only in one town, Kuopio, situated in eastern Finland and with a population of about 80,000 people (1.6% of the Finnish population). Fluoridation started in 1959 and finished in 1992 as a result of the resistance of local population. The most usual grounds for the resistance presented in this context were an individual’s right to drinking water without additional chemicals used for the medication of limited population groups. A concept of “force-feeding” was also mentioned.

Drinking water fluoridation is not prohibited in Finland but no municipalities have turned out to be willing to practice it. Water suppliers, naturally, have always been against dosing of fluoride chemicals into water.”
SOURCE: Leena Hiisvirta, M.Sc., Chief Engineer, Ministry of Social Affairs and Health, Finland, January 12, 1996.

5) “Fluoride chemicals are not included in the list [of 'chemicals for drinking water treatment']. This is due to ethical as well as medical considerations.”
SOURCE: Louis Sanchez, Directeur de la Protection de l’Environment, August 25, 2000.

“Generally, in Germany fluoridation of drinking water is forbidden. The relevant German law allows exceptions to the fluoridation ban on application. The argumentation of the Federal Ministry of Health against a general permission of fluoridation of drinking water is the problematic nature of compuls[ory] medication.”
SOURCE: Gerda Hankel-Khan, Embassy of Federal Republic of Germany, September 16, 1999.



and the list goes on....

are all these heads of state paranoid conspiracy theorists too? :russ:
 

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LeyeT said:
1) again, from the 2006 NRC Report:
http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/safety/nas.htm
The 2006 NRC Report on Fluoride in Drinking Water: A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards

"In 2006, the NRC stated in this report that in developing regulatory standards for high levels of fluoride in drinking water, three adverse health effects warranted consideration: severe enamel (dental) fluorosis from exposure to these high levels between birth and 8 years of age, risk of bone fractures, and severe forms of skeletal fluorosis (a rare condition in the United States) after lifetime exposure."

LeyeT said:
2) from the CDC website:
http://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/faqs/index.htm
Are children or adults exposed to too much fluoride?

"Based on the data evaluated in this risk assessment, EPA concludes that it is likely that some children 8 and younger are exposed to too much fluoride at least occasionally while their teeth are forming because of their high fluid intake relative to their body weight and/or because of high natural levels of fluoride in their local drinking water. The impact of overexposure on the risk for pitting of enamel in one or more teeth depends on the frequency and duration of the overexposures."

You fail.......AGAIN.......:bryan:

Also, the countries that don't want their water fluoridated have naturally-occurring fluoride levels that are already within/above acceptable parameters, because they already use fluoride supplements, or because they don't possess the infrastructure to implement the program, not because of any deleterious effects due to EPA recommended fluoridation levels @ 1.0 ppm or less. You really didn't read anything you posted which is why your 'rebuttals' are ineffective and actually further prove that fluoridation is safe. As far as your list:

Advanced Countries Shun Fluoridation: THE TRUTH
According to the American Dental Association - Fluoridation Facts, 1996:

There are a number of countries that do not have fluoridation. However, failure to fluoridate should not be misconstrued as concern over safety or effectiveness. Inaction is not synonymous with banning; some countries have simply failed to act. Also in many parts of the world, fluoridation is not feasible for several reasons; the lack of a central water supply, the presence of more urgent health needs and the lack of sufficient funds for start-up and maintenance costs.

The status of fluoridation of several countries cited as "shunning" fluoridation is summarized below:

Austria
Austria has never implemented fluoridation. Austrian Medical and Dental Association, and the Austrian Federal Ministry for Health and the Environment are in favor of water fluoridation and support the World Health Organization recommendation.

Belgium
Parts of the country have some fluoride naturally in their water supplies. Although legislation allows fluoridation, there are no plans for it at present.

Denmark
The National Health Board of Denmark is convinced that fluoridation is a good health measure. No decision regarding fluoridation has been made yet.

Finland
Government is strongly in favor. One community in Finland serving 70,000 people in fluoridated. Two other communities approved fluoridation in 1974.

France
Fluoridation of salt is used in France.

Germany
The reunification of Germany in 1990 has resulted in a complete change of medical and dental care. Water fluoridation in 35 towns, reaching 18% of the citizens, was stopped in 1990. Prior to this date there were technical problems of the fluoridation process that caused ineffective fluoride levels from 1964-1985. This has been stated as the most important reason for the lack of decline of dental decay in East Germany.

The stopping of fluoridation was not a result of banning but a change in political, economic and social structures. For example, Germany currently benefits from fluoridated salt and fluoride supplement programs.

In 1988 a preventative program (topical fluoride applications, brushing and diet counseling) was introduced. These preventative programs, which include the use of systemic and topical fluorides, have promoted the reduction of tooth decay after water fluoridation was stopped in 1990.

Holland
This country has opted to supplement with drops and pills using the extensive, government-run health system to distribute fluoride.

Japan
Currently less than 1% of Japan has community water fluoridation. Dental disease in Japan is very severe compared to the United States.

Norway
The Directorate of Health in Norway recommends water fluoridation. ". . .No political decision has been made to abandon fluoridation in Norway, and the Norwegian Dental Association supports fluoridation as a safe, effective and efficient public health measure."

Sweden
The resolution to repeal the Fluoridation Act is not based on any proposals presented by the Swedish Government or the National Board of Health and Welfare but is entirely based on bills introduced by private members of the parliament. Nor do the bills rest on petition or statements made by odontological (dental) or medical institutions or organizations. The Swedish Royal Commission has been reconsidering the whole question.

Switzerland
The statement about Switzerland having officially banned fluoridation is incorrect. The local government has the authority to order fluoridation. Currently Basel is fluoridating at 1.0 ppm.

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You fail.......AGAIN.......:bryan:

Also, the countries that don't want their water fluoridated have naturally-occurring fluoride levels that are already within/above acceptable parameters, because they already use fluoride supplements, or because they don't possess the infrastructure to implement the program, not because of any deleterious effects due to EPA recommended fluoridation levels @ 1.0 ppm or less. You really didn't read anything you posted which is why your 'rebuttals' are ineffective and actually further prove that fluoridation is safe. As far as your list:



:umad: & you fail at Chess.​

1) where are you getting these links from? you know that any info posted without a link is suspect... so please, have some academic integrity.

2) nowhere in your post-with-no-link does it imply the bold in your statement above. for clarification i'll read your posted statement to you, it says "There are a number of countries that do not have fluoridation. However, failure to fluoridate should not be misconstrued as concern over safety or effectiveness. Inaction is not synonymous with banning; some countries have simply failed to act. Also in many parts of the world, fluoridation is not feasible for several reasons; the lack of a central water supply, the presence of more urgent health needs and the lack of sufficient funds for start-up and maintenance costs."

so again, either stop making up shyt or post the link.

3) it's a very simple concept you're not understanding. and since you like to bold and underline shyt ill put it to you like this: if the fluoride levels in the US were safe and a a optimum level--there would not be so many documented cases of dental fluorosis, and the government, the EPA, and the department of health and human services would not have advocated for a lowering of the fluoridation levels in 2011. can you comprehend that? and can you intelligently address this point?

also, your disregard of other medical professionals and foreign countries objecting to water fluoridation is shameful. 1) your article has no link, no reference, and therefore no credibility in this arena. 2) your "article" (if it's even legit) contains blanket statements not attributed to anyone in particular... and there's no link lol... and it's from 1996 :stopitslime:

while i, on the other hand, am posting documented quotes from state officials from post-1999.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/austria.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/belgium.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/denmark.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/finland01.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/finland02.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/france.pdf

http://www.fluoridealert.org/uploads/germany.pdf



ALSO, i put "toxic" and "medicated" in bold and in red in my original quotes above because it demonstrated foreign officials speaking DIRECTLY to the hazardous effects of water fluoridation.
Can you address this point as well?




and please have some intellectual integrity and directly address the above points with VALID REFERENCES and not that other shyt you been trying to pass off with no link.
 

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LeyeT said:
1) where are you getting these links from?

Start here:

http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/connett.html

http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/connett/01.html

http://www.dentalwatch.org/fl/fluoride.html

:laff::laff::laff:

And LOL @ YOU demanding some 'intellectual integrity' when your entire argument hinges on the half-baked opinions of a hypocritical quack using junk science, selective quoting of data, lies, 50 year-old refuted arguments and fear to make money off gullible people.

All my links (except for the ones above) and information have been from PubMed or the CDC, so your latest objection is invalid.......just like your uneducated opinion.

Let me destroy another objection you've raised:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16156167

Salt fluoridation in Germany since 1991.
Schulte AG.
Source
Department of Conservative Dentistry, University of Heidelberg, Germany. andreas_schulte@med.uni-heidelberg.de

Abstract
Since 1991, fluoridated salt has been on sale in household-size packages in Germany. Potassium or sodium fluoride is added to iodized salt until the fluoride concentration reaches 250 mg/kg. The use of fluoridated salt to prevent caries is officially recommended by the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Zahn-, Mund- und Kieferheilkunde (DGZMK) and several other associations and groups interested in public health. In the course of the past thirteen years, the market share of fluoridated and iodized domestic salt rose to 63.1% in Germany. However, this positive development must not obscure the fact that fluoridated and iodized salt is still not allowed to be used in restaurant or cafeteria kitchens. This restriction now needs to be revoked in view of the fact that many children, adolescents and adults take their main meals in cafeterias or restaurants. Scientific studies have demonstrated beyond doubt that using fluoridated and iodized salt in cafeteria kitchens poses no problem whatever.

Here's another one just because I'm feeling generous......

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16156166
Salt fluoridation in France since 1986.
Tramini P.
Source
Service de Santé Publique, U.F.R. d'Odontologie, Université de Montpellier I, France. paul.tramini@wanadoo.fr

Abstract
In 1985, the production and use of fluoridated salt was authorized in France. Domestic salt both with added fluoride (at 250 ppm) and without fluoride has been on the market since 1986. It was recommended to avoid the consumption of fluoridated salt if the local drinking water contained more than 0.5 milligrams of fluoride per litre. The legislation has never been modified since, except for a few developments such as the permission given to school canteens in 1993 to use fluoridated salt, provided canteen managers made sure that the drinking water contained no more than 0.5 milligrams of fluoride per litre. Epidemiological surveys about fluoridated salt in France are few, but they point in the same direction: decrease of DMFT and DMFS values, evident for the period 1986-1993 but minimal from 1993 to 1998. In 1999 and 2002, epidemiological comparative surveys were carried out in Montpellier (France) and Heidelberg (Germany) among 12-year-old schoolchildren. A decrease in caries prevalence was found in both towns, particulary in Heidelberg. On the other hand, the two cities showed some slight differences resulting from public health policy, from individual preventive habits, and from an earlier introduction of fluoridated salt in France.

I'd go through the whole list, but I'm pretty sure I'll find the SAME information in each of the countries Fluoridealert listed on their website and you gullibly believed.

If fluoride were 'toxic', I HIGHLY doubt it'd be added to salt or anything else.......like drinking water..........:ohhh:

Your argument is trash and unsupported by science, evidence, and common sense.

Use more big, red letters.


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