So the Bobcats drafted a hustle player with the #2 pick last year

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MKG has been doing fine, we just need a solid scorer and a big man who can get shots on the inside, Biyombo is a good defender and is nice for the wide open dunk, but he's not really a true 5.

If we can make that happen next draft and focus on building our team from the inside, we'll be straight. We also need Jordan to get off his ass.
 

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MKG has been doing fine, we just need a solid scorer and a big man who can get shots on the inside, Biyombo is a good defender and is nice for the wide open dunk, but he's not really a true 5.

If we can make that happen next draft and focus on building our team from the inside, we'll be straight. We also need Jordan to get off his ass.

Sounds like y'all need a lot.
 

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Yes I do. What does that have to do with anything?

You can't complain about who they're hiring when they're doing what you're recommending. Rich Cho was there to help Presti out and then replaced Pritchard before Cho got fired over some bullshyt with Portland ownership. It's not as if the team hired a clueless GM. Jordan brought in a guy with a resume and a good rep to preside over a rebuilding process. Scouting and GM work are not the big problems going forward in Charlotte. What they need is a superstar to make everyone else around them look good, because right now what the team has are players that would look really good on better teams.
 

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You can't complain about who they're hiring when they're doing what you're recommending. Rich Cho was there to help Presti out and then replaced Pritchard before Cho got fired over some bullshyt with Portland ownership. It's not as if the team hired a clueless GM. Jordan brought in a guy with a resume and a good rep to preside over a rebuilding process. Scouting and GM work are not the big problems going forward in Charlotte. What they need is a superstar to make everyone else around them look good, because right now what the team has are players that would look really good on better teams.

Cho is a numbers guy. He's not known for discovering talent nor signing talent. He's never been a scout before, not saying you have to had been a scout to be a good GM but you have to have a good scout as your assistant GM. Our GM was never a scout and was an agent before he got the job but he knows how to sign guys and he has a damn good assistant GM in Travis Shlenk who was a scout and is great at talent evaluation. Cho is an egghead that is extremely smart at everything except talent evaluation. Check out his bio and tell me what makes him qualified to be an NBA GM

Prior to his stint in Portland, Cho spent the previous 10 seasons as Assistant General Manager of the Seattle SuperSonics/Oklahoma City Thunder. Cho entered the NBA as an intern with the SuperSonics in 1995 while earning a law degree from Pepperdine University School of Law. After serving as a part-time consultant for the SuperSonics in 1997, Cho was hired as the team’s Director of Basketball Affairs in 1998 before being promoted to Assistant General Manager in 2000. A member of the Washington State Bar, Cho also served as Vice President of Legal for the SuperSonics from 2005-07 in addition to his duties as Assistant GM. In that role, he was responsible for all legal work involved with sponsorship agreements, licensing issues, employment contracts and immigration issues. Following the team’s move to Oklahoma City, Cho also oversaw the Thunder’s D-League affiliate, the Tulsa 66ers, and their run to the championship game in 2009-10.
Dude never spent days and nights on the road evaluating players while living out of a suitcase.

What they need is a superstar to make everyone else around them look good

Like Dame Lillard who they could've had and would've changed the fate of their franchise drastically. A good GM would've known that.
 

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Cho is a numbers guy. He's not known for discovering talent nor signing talent. He's never been a scout before, not saying you have to had been a scout to be a good GM but you have to have a good scout as your assistant GM. Our GM was never a scout and was an agent before he got the job but he knows how to sign guys and he has a damn good assistant GM in Travis Shlenk who was a scout and is great at talent evaluation. Cho is an egghead that is extremely smart at everything except talent evaluation. Check out his bio and tell me what makes him qualified to be an NBA GM

Dude never spent days and nights on the road evaluating players while living out of a suitcase.



Like Dame Lillard who they could've had and would've changed the fate of their franchise drastically. A good GM would've known that.


His job was to be an information hound in Seattle. Now he has some 6 figure system that gathers information on every player imaginable.

Charlotte GM Rich Cho engineers ‘one-stop shopping’ scouting database for Bobcats | CharlotteObserver.com

Whatever the system is, it hasn't failed him yet. He just hasn't hit jackpot yet (that woulda been Davis last year had they won the lotto)


Like Dame Lillard who they could've had and would've changed the fate of their franchise drastically. A good GM would've known that.

Lillard isn't even that in Portland. Portland didn't have to displace anyone to get him. Charlotte would have had to give up on Kemba after one year to get Lillard while still not fixing other issues they had.

And since I knew you'd say this, how about this.

Let's say they did get Lillard (who was NOT a no-brainer, let's be clear. His stock didn't get solidified til combines). They get Lillard, they trade Kemba for a future lotto protected first, being conservative here). They still suck, and now fast forward to this year's draft. Trey Burke is sitting there as the BPA. What do you do then?
 
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Cho is a numbers guy. He's not known for discovering talent nor signing talent. He's never been a scout before, not saying you have to had been a scout to be a good GM but you have to have a good scout as your assistant GM. Our GM was never a scout and was an agent before he got the job but he knows how to sign guys and he has a damn good assistant GM in Travis Shlenk who was a scout and is great at talent evaluation. Cho is an egghead that is extremely smart at everything except talent evaluation. Check out his bio and tell me what makes him qualified to be an NBA GM

Dude never spent days and nights on the road evaluating players while living out of a suitcase.



Like Dame Lillard who they could've had and would've changed the fate of their franchise drastically. A good GM would've known that.

:whoa: Lilliards a nice player but hes not changing the fate of your franchise
 

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Since when was MKG supposed to be some immediate super star? What is the last #2 pick that became a superstar? I swear, sports fans are the most reactionary motherfukkers ever.

How the hell is Harrison Barnes better than MKG Crapthoughts? They're both averaging very similar stats, almost identical minutes per game/field goals per game. Bobcats also don't have the sharp shooters that Goldenstate has which opens up the lane and wide open shots for someone like Harrison Barnes. With someone who supposedly has a jumper, Barnes is shooting 44% from the field while MKG is shooting 45%.

MKG's work ethic and heart shyts all over most players. Give him time to improve.
 

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His job was to be an information hound in Seattle. Now he has some 6 figure system that gathers information on every player imaginable.

Charlotte GM Rich Cho engineers ‘one-stop shopping’ scouting database for Bobcats | CharlotteObserver.com

Whatever the system is, it hasn't failed him yet. He just hasn't hit jackpot yet (that woulda been Davis last year had they won the lotto)




Lillard isn't even that in Portland. Portland didn't have to displace anyone to get him. Charlotte would have had to give up on Kemba after one year to get Lillard while still not fixing other issues they had.

And since I knew you'd say this, how about this.

Let's say they did get Lillard (who was NOT a no-brainer, let's be clear. His stock didn't get solidified til combines). They get Lillard, they trade Kemba for a future lotto protected first, being conservative here). They still suck, and now fast forward to this year's draft. Trey Burke is sitting there as the BPA. What do you do then?

Trey Burke is nowhere near as good as Lillard is nor will he ever be. Trey Burke will not be the best player on the board when Charlotte drafts. Otto Porter is a better player and would be a better fit, this is assuming they don't land Noel. If the situation did arise where Burke is the best player available then you take him and stockpile assets. That's the only way to get better, not drafting lesser talent because of their position.
 

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FreedS[ohh]lave;3742620 said:
:whoa: Lilliards a nice player but hes not changing the fate of your franchise

Okay, he might not change the fate of your franchise but he'll be Westbrook status by his 3rd season in the league. Russy is a multiple allstar. Charlotte could use that, MKG will never play in an allstar game.
 

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Since when was MKG supposed to be some immediate super star? What is the last #2 pick that became a superstar? I swear, sports fans are the most reactionary motherfukkers ever.

How the hell is Harrison Barnes better than MKG Crapthoughts? They're both averaging very similar stats, almost identical minutes per game/field goals per game. Bobcats also don't have the sharp shooters that Goldenstate has which opens up the lane and wide open shots for someone like Harrison Barnes. With someone who supposedly has a jumper, Barnes is shooting 44% from the field while MKG is shooting 45%.

MKG's work ethic and heart shyts all over most players. Give him time to improve.



Not reactionary, it’s just that the bobcats need help with their entire roster. They need more than just hustle players they need talent. But I get what your saying








His jumper is broke tho :lolbron:
 

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Trey Burke is nowhere near as good as Lillard is nor will he ever be. Trey Burke will not be the best player on the board when Charlotte drafts. Otto Porter is a better player and would be a better fit, this is assuming they don't land Noel. If the situation did arise where Burke is the best player available then you take him and stockpile assets. That's the only way to get better, not drafting lesser talent because of their position.

How do you know this? At this time last year Lillard was a combo guard senior from a small conference who was only projected to go high because there was zero depth at PG. In fact, both Lillard and Burke RIGHT NOW have similar draft stocks. Again, Lillard didn't solidify a top 10 selection until he blew everyone away at the combine. If Burke does the same thing, then what (and in Burke's case if he blows everyone away he could go as high as #2 )

Stockpiling assets in that manner is tricky, because in reality, if you're hoarding at the same position, if I'm the other GM, I know I won't have to pay as much to get him because I know deep down you don't wanna break camp with both of them on the team. It's like driving a new car fresh out of the lot. The second you do, the value depreciates. The reason why I'm saying this is because at some point you have to say to yourself, "this is the guy I'm rolling with and for better or worse, this is who I'm putting the cart behind." Continuing to replace a position you claim you're set at just reeks of indecisiveness.
 

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Since when was MKG supposed to be some immediate super star? What is the last #2 pick that became a superstar? I swear, sports fans are the most reactionary motherfukkers ever.

How the hell is Harrison Barnes better than MKG Crapthoughts? They're both averaging very similar stats, almost identical minutes per game/field goals per game. Bobcats also don't have the sharp shooters that Goldenstate has which opens up the lane and wide open shots for someone like Harrison Barnes. With someone who supposedly has a jumper, Barnes is shooting 44% from the field while MKG is shooting 45%.
MKG's work ethic and heart shyts all over most players. Give him time to improve.

Barnes shoots 3's cracka, MKG doesn't. Barnes shares the court with 2 elite players at their position. MKG is Charlotte's franchise player and he'll never be an offensive option. MKG is a wing player that was drafted 2nd overall and he shoots 22% from 3. That is fukking horrible, rookie or not. Harrison Barnes is getting better as the season is ending, he's gonna be a starter for a playoff team while MKG will be the franchise player at the wing position that is a worse shooter from outside than Biyombo.
 
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