So The Knicks Are Worse Than Last Year?

[BlackAchilles]

The Knicks are the most valuable basketball team in the league.
And they're terrible.

You almost wish the league could force Dolan to sell on some trumped up "In the best interests of the game" clause.

They need to set up a sting to catch him saying some shyt

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

They said us and the Warriors were super teams

 

[Fenian]

rose trade wasnt bad as hes a free agent, but signing noah who was washed up to that big ass deal was

knicsk have been garbage for so long and only have one good decent young player in kristaps

melo is 33
courtney lee is 31
noah is 32

Willy is a good young player as well I'll say, been really impressed with some of his games.

 

[Damnshow]

But what gets me though is that dudes on here, at the barbershop, at work and all that are really thinking it's Melo's fault or Phil's fault.



They're symptoms to the greater problem. It's the city. It's the culture, brehs. There's SO much pressure for the Knicks to do well thanks to media and rabid ass fans. If they don't, they're dogged out viciously and star players are sent running elsewhere. But what incentive do the owners have to do anything other than a quick patch up? They're making money in spite of this shyt. Doesn't the little white dude that owns the team/MSG have his own shytty little band? He doesn't give a fukk if they win or lose. He's set for life.

the problem starts with the ownership, no doubt. Dolan dont care about knicks, like you said them winning or losing he still getting paid, he's one of those "safe bet dont strive for greatness" type of people. It's been 15 years of same bullshyt under dolan's ownership, it aint changing anywhere soon. The only good thing is that this time they got draft picks unlike back in 2010 when they were just cleaning up the mess to got money for free agency. And then they blew it all by signing amare with injury concerns and trading half a team for melo who never worked well with amare. All this price for two good seasons
So its scary that dolan might do the same shyt again once he gets rid of melo. He might fukk around and overpay for another injury concern star player to team him up with porzingis.

 

[Danie84]

You forgot about our 17 win season before we got PorzinGAWD

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

Any team that has a set up of

James Dolan
Phil Jackson
Jeff Hornacek

is going to be absolutely horrendous. There should be a top to bottom removal. The fact that casual ass Knicks fans don't outright revolt against that trash ass franchise (and by that, I mean stop paying for the damn games for a team you don't currently like, you weirdos) is a shame

That's because Knicks fans are too busy having a circle jerk about tanking & getting a top 4 pick. I swear to God, if Phil passes on one of the hyped cats coming out, I'm going to die laughing.

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

I question the sanity of anybody who thought a washed Rose, deceased Noah and flabby Melo would make the playoffs. Borderline garbage bench and a coach who has never won anything. I still remember Greg Anthony & Rick Fox on NBA TV pegging them as a potential 4 seed before the season

Knicks would be better off doing a full scale rebuild instead of this patch and go rebuild that has never worked

You n*ggas keep saying Rose is washed when he's averaging 17 & 4, and has shown PLENTY of times that he can still finish around the rim & be dangerous in the open court.

 

[ikbm]

You n*ggas keep saying Rose is washed when he's averaging 17 & 4, and has shown PLENTY of times that he can still finish around the rim & be dangerous in the open court.

4 assists is terrible
his vision is terrible
his defense is also terrible
his outside shooting is terrible.
he's not washed but he's not a starter on a playoff team unless the team is loaded

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

4 assists is terrible
his defense is also terrible
his outside shooting is terrible.
he's not washed but he's not a starter on a playoff team unless the team is loaded

We get it, you don't like Rose because he doesn't pass the ball to your savior KP

I'm quite sure the Bucks could use him over Brogdon.

 

[ikbm]

We get it, you don't like Rose because he doesn't pass the ball to your savior KP

I'm quite sure the Bucks could use him over Brogdon.

not really. there are several catch and shoot players on this roster...lee, melo, kp....and he simply does not create offense for others...like other point guards that play at high levels. this is all facts.
no the bucks wouldnt...brogdon is in the running for rookie of the year and shoots better than derrick rose...and plays defense better(by far) than derrick rose
the league is about players that fit and function within a system.
if i wanted a player that can get you a bucket at the rim...sure derrick can suffice...but in this league...1 trick ponies arent cutting it.
why would they need derrick rose to slash to the rim...when they have practically a 7 footer that does that better than derrick rose... along with doing everything else better than derrick rose...you know...the guy you dislike...giannis
that's redundant...you need spacing....and thats the bucks biggest flaw...shooting.

 

[Rigby.]

We get it, you don't like Rose because he doesn't pass the ball to your savior KP

I'm quite sure the Bucks could use him over Brogdon.

The problem about the Bucks is that they don't need another slasher nikka that can't shoot starting. In fact, they don't need any nikka starting that can't shoot until Giannis gets a J

 

[Mr. Jack Napier]

not really. there are several catch and shoot players on this roster...lee, melo, kp....and he simply does not create offense for others...like other point guards that play at high levels. this is all facts.
no the bucks wouldnt...brogdon is in the running for rookie of the year and shoots better than derrick rose...and plays defense better(by far) than derrick rose
the league is about players that fit and function within a system.
if i wanted a player that can get you a bucket at the rim...sure derrick can suffice...but in this league...1 trick ponies arent cutting it.
why would they need derrick rose to slash to the rim...when they have practically a 7 footer that does that better than derrick rose... along with doing everything else better than derrick rose...you know...the guy you dislike...giannis
that's redundant...you need spacing....and thats the bucks biggest flaw...shooting.

And Fox is supposed to do that next year with the Knicks

 

[ikbm]

And Fox is supposed to do that next year with the Knicks

he probably wont....but thats why you go after young players.....you dont know for certain what a young player full of potential could wind up being
we already know what derrick rose is....he's 8 years deep...he isnt going to get better....his flaws arent magically going to go away.
you're not looking at anything objectively. you're not looking at a prospect as simply that....a player that can be molded and develop into something greater.
did you picture kawhi leonard being what he is now...5 years ago?...that's an example...an extreme one...but an example.
the knicks havent won shyt with the known random veteran. the unknown young talent that hasnt reached its ceiling >>>>>>> the way we're going about it now.

 

[god shamgod]

All I heard was how 'contract year D gawd' as gonna kill it

this ball hoggin 6'2 sg couldnt even play with jimmy cuz he sucks at setting up teammates.Fukk rose I'm glad the bulls got rid of his selfish retarded ass

 

[Malta]

We get it, you don't like Rose because he doesn't pass the ball to your savior KP

I'm quite sure the Bucks could use him over Brogdon.

Brogdon is a 40% three point shooter, and Delly is a 37% three point shooter. Please explain to me why the Bucks would want Rose over Brogdon when Malcolms role is 3 & D and they have an elite slasher who needs room. Everyone in the Bucks starting lineup other than Giannis shoots the three, so I wanna know how adding a dude who doesn't shoot threes would help them.


By the way, just last month you were making fun of Giannis and trying to say Melo was better because their records were similar, how bout now