So Tomb Raider is anti-religious, surprised this hasn't gotten much attention

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There should be like a Coli jail, terrible posters would go there for maybe a couple of hours to think about walking a path more productive.

Please.. I beg of you. Submit yourself to processing so you can grow without obstacles. The purpose of this thread is clearly too complicated for your comprehension which is not something you should fault the thread starter for :ufdup:
 

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Just looks like a regular old pic of Cesare Borgia to me. Oh wait....Cesare Borgia is the model for Jesus. The Pope didn't think that people would want to follow an Arab so he had them paint a picture of Cesare instead.

So stop worshiping false idols. Christians. (I'm a confirmed catholic. not practicing but not an atheist.)

Regardless.

Jesus = Mithra, Horus, Attis, Krishna , Zoroasster, Dionysus

5 out of 6 of the people I wrote above came before Jesus. Yet they all have almost the exact same stories. Why? Because Christianity borrows. It borrows from all religions. It borrowed a brandable face for Jesus. It borrowed a wonderful story for Jesus.

Did Jesus ever exist? I'm not here to argue whether he did or not.

What I'm saying is that people shouldn't get butt hurt over an image or representation of a figure.

If you have faith you should believe unquestionably and shouldn't let things like this get to you. Why does this make you mad? Anyone mad at the developers of this game = idiot.


oh boy. here we go again

In this section, we will investigate the alleged similarities between Jesus and other deities which
leave critics speculating aspects of Jesus' life were borrowed from other figures of antiquity.
After examining the actual texts of the religions in question most similarities will be found to not
even exist but to have been fabricated by authors who prey upon the reader's ignorance of
foreign religions.

The outline for this discussion is as follows:
1) Introduction
2) Cautions of Discernment
3) Krishna
4) Buddha
5) Horus
6) Zoroaster
7) Mithras
8) Attis
9) Dionysus-Bacchus
10) Alleged Crucified Deities
11) Conclusion

INTRODUCTION

If you search the web for similarities between Jesus and pagan deities, you will be met with countless results presenting the same erroneous
material which provide no original religious sources to validate their claims. However, if you search the religious texts of the figures in question
you will be presented with straightforward information that reveals the claim that the story of Jesus was stolen from pagan myths to be utterly
false. For the reader's convenience, I supply links throughout this discussion to the original religious texts so you can see for yourself that the
"Pagan Copycat Theory" has been completely fabricated.

Skeptic Interjection: But these figures existed before the alleged life of Jesus. Chronology alone makes this entire discussion pointless.
Answer: An important fact to keep in mind while reading this section is the approximate 300 detailed Messianic prophecies regarding the life,
death, and ministry of Jesus in the Old Testament. The prophecies span approximately 450 to 1,500 years before His birth. The accusation of
Christians plagiarizing the accounts of other figures in the first century ignores the fact that concepts such as the virgin birth, the resurrection,
and a Father-Son, relationship precede most figures in this article.

Also, many of the religious texts containing the figures and the alleged similarities claimed by critics postdate the completion of the Christian
Bible. Most religious texts concerning these figures were added to over the centuries, with aspects of their lives becoming more spectacular
and suspiciously similar to Christianity. An important difference between Jesus and the other figures in this article is the existence of verifiable
facts surrounding Jesus' life: we know the approximate year of His birth and death, numerous records exist which verify His existence,
accurate historical events that occurred around His lifetime are mentioned in the Christian texts, and we can trace the origins of the
Judeo-Christian beliefs. Most other figures in question have no documented point of origin and mention no dates or approximate dates as to
when the alleged events occurred.

Regardless, since we will show the copycat claims to be false, the argument of who came first shows itself to be irrelevant.

Skeptic Interjection: How does the mention of historical events prove the accuracy of the Bible? Many authors of fiction incorporate real
people or places into their works to give the plot a feeling of reality. How is the Bible different?
Answer: Historical accuracy alone is not proof of the Bible's inerrancy but it does attest to it's reliability. If the Bible only mentioned
spurious locations and people like many of the pagan texts do, it would certainly detract from it's authenticity.


CAUTIONS OF DISCERNMENT

I want you to keep the following things in mind the next time you are presented with the pagan copycat theory. Ask yourself the following
logic-based questions and you will see that most claims instantly crumble.

TERMINOLOGY One thing to look out for when presented with copycat claims is the use of Judeo-Christian terminology. There have been
many religions throughout history whose members participated in ritual baths but it was not baptism. Political and religious groups may have
celebrated a communal meal but it was not a Eucharist. Followers may consider their god a savior of some sort but they are not called
Messiah. Religions may speak of an afterlife but they do not consist of places known as Heaven and Hell. Critics may use such terms to make
their connections seem stronger but this is a misuse of terminology as these words are usually of Judeo-Christian origins.

TIMING When presented with comparative evidence, ask yourself:
1) Did the figure precede the Old Testament Messianic Prophecies? (most do not)
2) Does the timing of the evidence precede Christianity? (many religious texts and reliefs post-date Christianity)
3) Does the figure precede the life of Jesus? (figures like Apollonius of Tyana do not)

LOCATION If critics claim a figure from South America, for example, (like Quetzalcoatl) influenced Christianity, this is an obvious false claim if
we can believe the Americas had not yet been discovered.

SYMBOLISM Ask yourself what the symbolism is behind such parallels. Like most religious and political groups of antiquity, a sect might have
celebrated a communal meal but it did not hold the same significance of the Christian Eucharist. Members might consider their deity a savior
but they did not consider the figure a savior from sin and damnation, etc.

SOURCES See whether or not the claims actually come from the sacred texts of the religion in question (most hardly ever do). Most
references simply quote secondary sources by authors of the same ilk. When they do cite a religious source, most critics will not the specify
the book, volume, or verse number yet they readily quote exactly where the "copy" can be found in the Christian Bible. Ask for specific
references as to where the evidence can be found in the actual religious texts. Lastly, as we will see throughout this discussion, most
religious texts do not have an official cannon like the Christian Bible. Their texts have been admittedly altered and added to over the centuries.
When critics cite a source from another text, ask yourself whether or not this evidence is found in a text that predates Christianity (most do
not).


CONCLUSION

Though other authors go to great lengths investigating the claims listed in this discussion, my mission was to provide a brief
synopsis that would help the reader distinguish between fact and fiction. Once the reader gets to the actual sources they will
wonder how such claims even originated. If any of the critics cared to look into the facts for themselves before contributing to the
propaganda, they would have been able to dismiss such claims immediately.

Certain coincidences between Jesus and other figures can only be expected due to sheer probability. As a modern example, let's
look at some of the coincidences between Kennedy and Lincoln as taken from here:
Lincoln was elected to congress in 1846. Kennedy was elected to congress 1946 (Whereas Kennedy had instant success in legislative
and executive politics, Lincoln suffered many defeats).
Lincoln was elected president in 1860. Kennedy was elected president in 1960. (Considering presidential elections were held every four
years, this only brings the odds to 1 in 20).
The names Lincoln and Kennedy both contain seven letters (Until we consider their first names which destroys this parallel).
Both were presidents during times of major changes in civil rights (So were their successors and several other presidents).
Both presidents were killed by an assassin's bullet on a Friday (This holds only a one is seven chance).
Both assassins were known by three names consisting of 15 letters (Each man was not always referred to by three names. This mainly
surfaced after they gained notoriety following the assassinations).
Both assassins were killed before their trials (Booth was killed when captured. Oswald was killed days after his arrest).
Both men were succeeded by men with the surname of Johnson (Considering the popularity of the surname Johnson among white
males, it would be no more of a coincidence by comparing two Muslim men who share the name Mohammed.)

These coincidences may seem startling at first but really aren't that impressive once dissected. But in 2000 years, will future civilizations look
back on the "ancient Americans" and accuse Kennedy of being a figment of our imaginations? Will it seem we were so intrigued with Abraham
Lincoln that we invented a character to mirror a great American hero? The intelligent mind who is willing to do the research and look for the
truth behind such propaganda can easily find it.


Now why did i give you the intro and conclusion without the meat? because its to much meat to post at once. so i gave you the cliff notes. here's a tid bit. i will keep doing this every single time i see this nonsense posted about jesus and these other deities .


In Hinduism, Krishna is believed to be the eighth avatar of Vishnu, the second aspect of the Hindu trinity. Almost every correlation between
Krishna and Jesus can be traced to Kersey Graves, a 19th century author who believed Christianity was created from pagan myths. Though his
works have been proven by scholars to be false and poorly researched (Source), many still ignorantly refer to his arguments not knowing they
are easily disproved by simply comparing the Bible to the Hindu texts.

THE DEFINITION OF KRISHNA Although many critics allege Krishna means Christ, Krishna in Sanskrit actually translates as Black (One) as
Krishna was believed to have blackish-blue skin. The word Christ literally translates as Anointed One. When skeptics, in turn, spell Krishna as
Chrishna or Christna, this is a blatant attempt to spread more misinformation and reinforce their erroneous theories.

A VIRGIN BIRTH A virgin birth is never attributed to Krishna as his parents bore seven previous children. Furthermore, the virgin birth was
not a new concept invented by Christians. The book of Isaiah (written about 700 B.C.) spoke of a Messiah who would be born of a virgin. This
prophecy was in circulation 700 years before Jesus and at least 100 years before Krishna. (Isaiah 7:14) Critics claim Krishna was born to the
virgin Maia but according to Hindu texts, he was the eighth son of Princess Devaki and her husband Vasudeva: "You have been born of the
divine Devaki and Vasudeva for the protection of Brahma on earth." Mahabharata Bk 12, XLVIII

INFANT MASSACRE Critics claim a tyrannical ruler issued a decree to kill all infant males prior to Krishna's birth but the Hindu legend states
Devaki's six previous children were murdered by her cousin, King Kamsa, due to a prophecy foretelling his death at the hands of one of her
children. Unlike Herod who issued a decree to slaughter all the males under two years old, the Hindu version tells us Kamsa only targeted
Devaki's sons. He never issued a decree to indiscriminately kill male infants: "Thus the six sons were born to Devaki and Kamsa, too, killed
those six sons consecutively as they were born." Bhagavata, Bk 4, XXII:7

PARENTS FLEE Critics claim while Krishna's parents fled to Mathura to avoid Kamsa, Jesus' parents fled to Muturea to avoid Herod. But the
Bible tells us Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt- not to some unknown place called Muturea. Furthermore, the Hindu texts tell us Krishna's parents
never had a chance to flee- they were imprisoned by Kamsa so he could kill Krishna once he was born: What faults had [Vasudeva] and his
wife Devaki committed? Why did Kamsa kill the six infant sons of Devaki? And for what reason did [Vishnu] incarnate Himself as the son of
Vasudeva in the prison house of Kamsa? Bhagavata, Bk 4, I:4-5 and Source

SHEPHERDS, WISEMEN, A STAR, AND A MANGER No mention of shepherds or wisemen appear at Krishna's birth. Krishna was born in a
prison (not a stable as critics suggest) where his parents bore him in secret. It is unlikely such visitors would arrive only to alert Kamsa to
Krishna's presence!

CARPENTER FATHERS Like Jesus' earthly father, Krishna's father was also said to be a carpenter. Yet nowhere in the Hindu texts does it say
Vasudeva was a carpenter. In fact, we are told he was a nobleman in the courts of Mathura as he was married to Princess Devaki. When
Krishna fled the wrath of Kamsa with his foster parents, we are told his foster-father Nanda was a cow-herd: "Thou art the most beloved of
Nanda, the Cow-herd" Bhagavata, Bk 8, I, pg 743

THE CRUCIFIXION Though critics claim Krishna was crucified, this is mentioned nowhere within the Hindu texts. Instead, we are told exactly
how he dies: Krishna is mediating in the woods when he is accidentally shot in the foot by a hunter's arrow. Skeptics really try to streeetch
this one by claiming the arrow that shot Krishna impaled him to a tree, thus crucifying him. They also point out the similarity between his
wound being in the foot and Jesus' pierced hands and feet. However, if I was carving my initials into a tree and accidentally impaled my wrist,
the idea of saying I was crucified would be absurd. This story relates more to the death of Greek mythology's Achilles than anything else: "A
fierce hunter of the name of Jara then came there, desirous of deer. The hunter, mistaking [Krishna], who was stretched on the earth in high
Yoga, for a deer, pierced him at the heel with a shaft and quickly came to that spot for capturing his prey." Mahabharata, Book 16, 4............
 

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..... now I WONT POST IT ALL. BUT IF YOU want it all. i'll send you the link.

STOP with the nonsense people.

According to Egyptian mythology, Horus was originally believed to be the son of Ra and Hathor and the husband/brother of Isis. Later he
was seen as the son of Osiris and Isis once Hathor and Isis were merged into one being. Horus was considered the sky, sun, and moon god
represented by a man with the head of falcon.

VIRGIN BIRTH There are two separate birth accounts in regards to Horus (neither depict a virgin birth):
Version 1: Hathor, the motherly personification of the milky way, is said to have conceived Horus but we are told her husband, Ra, was an
Egyptian sun god. Hathor (a sky goddess) was represented by the cow whose milk brought forth the milky way. By the will of her husband Ra,
she gave birth to Horus:

"I, Hathor of Thebes, mistress of the goddesses, to grant to him a coming forth into the presence [of the god]... Hathor of Thebes, who was
incarnate in the form of a cow and a woman." Source and Source

Version 2: When we examine Isis as Horus' mother, we are told Isis was not a virgin, but the widow of Osiris. Isis practices magic to raise
Osiris from the dead so she can bear a son that would avenge his death. Isis then becomes pregnant from the sperm of her deceased
husband. Again, no virgin birth occurs:

"[Isis] made to rise up the helpless members [penis] of him whose heart was at rest, she drew from him his essence [sperm], and she made
therefrom an heir [Horus]." Source and Source

THE FATHER AND SON UNITY Critics suggest the Christian trinity was adapted from the notion of Osiris, Ra, and Horus being one god in
essence. Because Horus was born after the death of Osiris, it came to be believed he was the resurrection, or reincarnation, of Osiris:

"He avengeth thee in his name of 'Horus, the son who avenged his father." Source

Throughout the centuries, the Egyptians eventually considered Osiris and Horus as one and the same. However, this son-as-the-father
comparison more closely resembles the metamorphosis of Hathor into Isis than it does the Christian trinity. We see Horus first as the son of
Ra, then being the equivalent of Ra, then Ra finally becoming just as aspect of Horus. Similar to Hathor and Isis, we simply see a merger of
one being into another. In Egyptian mythology, each god had a distinct beginning by being conceived from other gods. In Christian
theology, God and Jesus always existed as one and the same, neither having a beginning or an end. Jesus' birth did not represent His
creation- only His advent in human from. Furthermore, the father-son concept was not created by first-century Christians. Prophecies in the
Old Testament referred to the future Messiah as the Son of God up to 1,000 years before the birth of Christ. I Chronicles 17:13-14

CRUCIFIXION AND RESURRECTION Horus is never said to have been crucified, nevertheless to have died. The only connection we can
make to Horus being resurrected is if we consider the eventual merger of Horus and Osiris. But such a theory results in an catch 22,
apparently noticed by the Egyptians as they later altered their beliefs to fix the contradictions. In the Egyptian tale, Osiris is either
dismembered by Set in battle or sealed in a chest and drowned in the Nile. Isis then pieces Osiris' body back together and resurrects Osiris to
conceive an heir that will avenge Osiris' death (although technically Osiris is never actually resurrected as he is forbidden to return to the world
of the living). Source and Source

"[Set] brought a shapely and decorated chest, which he had caused to be made according to the measurements of the king's body... Set
proclaimed that he would gift the chest unto him whose body fitted its proportions with exactness... Then Osiris came forward. He lay down
within the chest, and he filled it in every part. But dearly was his triumph won in that dark hour which was his doom. Ere he could raise his
body, the evil followers of Set sprang suddenly forward and shut down the lid, which they nailed fast and soldered with lead. So the richly
decorated chest became the coffin of the good king Osiris, from whom departed the breath of life." Source

BORN ON THE 25TH OF DECEMBER Horus' birth was actually celebrated during the month of Khoiak, (October/November). Though some
critics claim Horus was born during the winter solstice, this shows more of a relationship to other pagan religions which considered the solstices
sacred.

TWELVE DISCIPLES Superficially this similarity seems accurate until we see Horus' "disciples" were not disciples at all- they were the twelve
signs of the zodiac which became associated with Horus, a sky god. However Jesus' disciples were actual men who lived and died, whose
writings exist to this day, and whose lives are recorded by historians. Because Horus' "disciples" were merely signs of the zodiac, they never
taught his philosophy or spread his teachings. The fact that there are twelve signs of the zodiac (twelve months) as compared to Jesus' twelve
apostles is an insignificant coincidence.

MOUNTAINTOP ENCOUNTER Critics point out the similarity of both Jesus and Horus having an encounter on a mountaintop with their
enemies. Instead of dissecting this piece by piece, I will simply give each version of events and let the reader observe the (obvious)
differences:
Jesus: After Jesus completes His fast in the wilderness, Satan tries to tempt Jesus by offering Him all the kingdoms of the world if Jesus
agrees to worship him, but Jesus refuses. Matthew 4:1-11
Horus: During battle, Horus rips off one of Set's testicles while Set (sometimes called Seth) gorges out Horus' eye. Set later tries to prove his
dominance by initiating intercourse with Horus. Horus catches Set's semen in his hand and throws it into a nearby river. Horus later
masturbates and spreads his semen over lettuce which Set consumes. Both Set and Horus stand before the gods to proclaim their right to rule
Egypt. When Set claims dominance over Horus, his semen is found in the river. When Horus' dominance is considered, his semen is found
within Set so Horus is granted rule over Egypt:

"O that castrated one! O this man! O he who hurries him who hurries, among you two! These- this first corporation of the company of the
justified... Was born before the eye of Horus was plucked out, before the testicles of Set were torn away." Source "It is the day on which Horus
fought with Set, who cast filth in the face of Horus, and when Horus destroyed the powers of Set." Source "Then [Set] appeared before the
divine council and claimed the throne. But the gods gave judgment that Horus was the rightful king, and he established his power in the land of
Egypt, and became a wise and strong ruler like to his father Osiris." Source

Skeptic Interjection: Does the similarity between the names Set and Satan hold any significance?
Answer: Set's variant names include Seth, Sutekh, Setesh, and Seteh. The root Set is usually considered to translate into dazzler or stable
pillar. The different suffixes of his name add the meanings majestic, supreme, and desert. The name Satan comes from the Semitic root Stn
which represents opposition. Before his fall, Satan's original name was Lucifer, or angel of light. The term Satan represents a general
adversary, hence his accepted identity. Though both names consist of an S and a T, their meanings have nothing in common. The spellings are
only a result of the original root words which represent their character. Source and Source

SIMILAR TITLES Critics allege Horus held similar titles used to identify Jesus such as Messiah, Savior, Son of Man, Good Shepherd, Lamb of
God, The Way, the Truth, the Light, and Living Word. However I can find no evidence of any of these names ever being used in reference to
Horus. I am especially suspicious of the word Messiah since it is Hebrew in origin.

IN CONCLUSION We can see the differences between Jesus and Horus far outweigh any superficial correlations.





Dionysus is mostly known as the patron god of wine, though he was considered the Greek and Roman patron of many titles. This allows
critics to make the illogical connection between Dionysus being the god of wine and Jesus drinking wine.

DECEMBER 25 BIRTH There is no record of this date being significant for Dionysus. Like Attis, Dionysus is associated with the annual return of
spring.

VIRGIN BIRTH There are two birth accounts concerning Dionysus (neither implies a virgin birth):
Zeus impregnates a mortal woman, Semele, much to the jealously of Hera. Hera convinces Semele to ask Zeus to reveal his glory to
her but because no mortal can look upon the gods and live, Semele is instantly incinerated. Zeus then takes the fetal Dionysus and
sews him into his own thigh until his birth. Source
Dionysus is the product of Zeus and Persephone. Hera becomes insanely jealous and tries to destroy the infant by sending the Titans to
kill him. Zeus comes to the rescue but it's too late- the Titans had eaten everything but Dionysus' heart. Zeus then takes the heart and
implants it into the womb of Semele. As we can see, no virgin birth takes place but this is how Dionysus is said to have become a
rebirth deity as he is twice born in the womb. Source

TRAVELING TEACHER Dionysus was said to have traveled far and wide (whereas Jesus concentrated His ministry in Judea) to teach men "the
secrets of the vine" (how to make wine) and to spread his religious rites. He was never believed to be a spiritual teacher like Jesus.

EUCHARIST To celebrate Dionysus' rebirth after being devoured by the Titans, cult members would take either a live human or animal, tear
the victim apart limb by limb, and eat the flesh raw. The sacrifice would be eaten in a cannibalistic manner so the followers could pay homage
to their god. However this story relates more to the myths surrounding Tantalus than the Christian communion.

TRIUMPHANT ENTRY Critics claim Dionysus is often pictured as riding a donkey amid crowds waving branches of ivy. However, this is only a
description of his regular entourage who traveled with him (not a specific pre-passion entry). These individuals were maenads and satyrs who
would follow Dionysus with branches entwined with ivy and grapes- cult symbols representative of the wine god. Jesus on the other hand had
a specific triumphant entry upon entering Jerusalem while human crowds waved palm branches (Jewish symbols). I also found a messianic
prophecy in Genesis 49:11 (written in approximately 1400 B.C.- way before Dionysus) which foretells Jesus (literally) tethering his donkey
with a vine and (symbolically) washing his robes in wine (a reference to His death). Not that I am accusing the Greeks/Romans of creating a
deity around a single Bible passage, but if we want to get technical, the Bible groups these three objects together long before Dionysus was a
twinkle in the eyes of mythology.

WATER INTO WINE Dionysus was the god of mythology who gave King Midas the power to turn whatever he touched into gold. Likewise, he
gave the daughters of King Anius the power to turn whatever they touched into wine, corn, or oil. Considering Dionysus was the god of wine,
this should come as no surprise. Regardless, though there are tales where Dionysus supernaturally fills empty vessels with wine, the act of
turning water into wine does not occur.

RESURRECTION The "resurrection" account of Dionysus stems from the tale of him being reborn after his attack by the Titans. As we can see,
this has nothing to do with the resurrection story of Jesus. Furthermore, we are told after Dionysus completes teaching his followers his
religious rites, he ascends to Mount Olympus to be with the other deities- alive and well. His infant rebirth, like Attis, is symbolic of the
vegetation cycle- not the atoning of sin.

SIMILAR TITLES The following is a list of alleged titles Dionysus is claimed to share with Jesus. Though in the past we have been able to show
some obscure similarities, this list is an obvious fabrication:
King of Kings. Dionysus was only a semi-deity. Zeus was the head god according to the mythology.
Only Begotten Son. Zeus had many relationships with women where he fathered several other children.
Alpha and Omega. Dionysus had a distinct beginning to his existence.
Lamb of God. Dionysus is associated with a bull, serpent, wine, and ivy, but never as a lamb.

The titles I did find for Dionysus are The Bull, The Goat Shooter, The Torch, Dionysus of the Knoll, Meat-Eater, Dionysus of the Vine, and
Savior (though the term savior was attributed later to Dionysus for promising carnal pleasure in the afterlife. The only person he saved from
Hades was his mother, Semele.).

IN CONCLUSION It is absurd to consider Dionysus as an inspiration for Jesus. Even if the Jews were aware of the fables surrounding
Dionysus, it is unlikely they used this lore to create the character for their Messiah.
 

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DENYING THAT CHRISTIANITY WAS INFLUENCED BY EARLIER RELIGIONS ISN'T AN ACCEPTED POSITION EVEN IN CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY, BROTHER! SYNCRETISM IS A REAL THING, DUDE! ALL DEITIES ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME SIMILARITIES ANYWAY, WHETHER BY COINCIDENCE OR NOT, MEAN GENE!
 

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..... now I WONT POST IT ALL. BUT IF YOU want it all. i'll send you the link.

STOP with the nonsense people.

Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but could you PM me that link...I find this ish interesting.

Also, as far as the image on the poster goes...I think it could fit any solar deity. Plenty of deities have some form of the sun depicted behind them in some shape or form and it would look similar to the image on the poster. Bare in mind, I'm not talking about which religion is right or anything, just speaking on depictions of deities in general

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Not agreeing or disagreeing with you, but could you PM me that link...I find this ish interesting.

Also, as far as the image on the poster goes...I think it could fit any solar deity. Plenty of deities have some form of the sun depicted behind them in some shape or form and it would look similar to the image on the poster. Bare in mind, I'm not talking about which religion is right or anything, just speaking on depictions of deities in general

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Are the deities you are showing stuff people today worship or is it just stuff that is talked about
Buddah isn't usally associated with that type of background but I'm sure you could find one via the net. Who else???
 

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Are the deities you are showing stuff people today worship or is it just stuff that is talked about
Buddah isn't usally associated with that type of background but I'm sure you could find one via the net. Who else???

Actually Siddhartha Gautama (skinny Buddha aka the original enlightened one) is depicted that way.

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The sun thing is pretty timeless...you can find it behind old school solar deities more than anything, but the sun typically works with any "enlightened" being which would include but not be limited to Jesus.
 

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Actually Siddhartha Gautama (skinny Buddha aka the original enlightened one) is depicted that way.

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The sun thing is pretty timeless...you can find it behind old school solar deities more than anything, but the sun typically works with any "enlightened" being which would include but not be limited to Jesus.

Well I asked because I was hoping you could produce something similar to what was being discussed here. The whole sun angle is one thing, but the actual depiction is another. Your pic's are clearly different. The way the sun and its rays are portrayed in this picture don't make me think "jesus"
The way the picture is portrayed in the game made me think Jesus immediately. And as I got farther into the game I can see how Eidos purposely did it that way. Because when the game starts off, you see a poster/picture of the island's sun queen. The posters you burn are different. But at one part later in the game they use the one I'm talking about in reference to the sun queen. Even tho its not even a female in the pic :stopitslime:
They was trying to be slick, I caught it. Just lettin the ppl know
 

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Well I asked because I was hoping you could produce something similar to what was being discussed here. The whole sun angle is one thing, but the actual depiction is another. Your pic's are clearly different. The way the sun and its rays are portrayed in this picture don't make me think "jesus"
The way the picture is portrayed in the game made me think Jesus immediately. And as I got farther into the game I can see how Eidos purposely did it that way. Because when the game starts off, you see a poster/picture of the island's sun queen. The posters you burn are different. But at one part later in the game they use the one I'm talking about in reference to the sun queen. Even tho its not even a female in the pic :stopitslime:
They was trying to be slick, I caught it. Just lettin the ppl know

Got to agree to disagree, but it's all just perception of the rough images for me at this point. You're speaking from playing the game and how it all played out, which I don't have the benefit of. Just based on the still's with no game play experience, I look at the images and the the three I posted are closer to the image of Jesus you posted than the image in the game (and vice versa), but that perception might change if I play up to the moment in the game.

Edit: I think the Assassin's Creed Revelations conclusion was a bigger pagan/non-believer thing than this from how it sounds.
One is a game where the woman is looking down on a pagan God and the other's big reveal was that the pagan's were right. Unless the Sun Goddess ends up being real as well...then maybe there's a pattern for illuminati heads to start calling out.
 

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its really this simple :heh:

jesus has 0 credibility

Jesus has zero credibility, what does this even mean :mindblown:
While Jesus is cool and all, he had a message that was told before he ever existed
What is the message "cac mamba"

Everything else you gotta say about it, is you guys allowing the devil to dictate :ufdup:
To me, Jesus represents being GOOD, doing right. Looking out for your fellow man/etc.
To combat this is beyond retardation. Its blatantly saying "I'm pro devil"
I'm not saying you have to convert to Christianity, but to downplay what he represents is asinine, asiten, asielven, asitwelve...
 

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Jesus has zero credibility, what does this even mean :mindblown:
While Jesus is cool and all, he had a message that was told before he ever existed
What is the message "cac mamba"

Everything else you gotta say about it, is you guys allowing the devil to dictate :ufdup:
To me, Jesus represents being GOOD, doing right. Looking out for your fellow man/etc.
To combat this is beyond retardation. Its blatantly saying "I'm pro devil"
I'm not saying you have to convert to Christianity, but to downplay what he represents is asinine, asiten, asielven, asitwelve...

first off :russ::laff: at a dude named cockmeat sandwich making any attempt at mentionin a screenname :dead:

but to address your post, of course jesus is a good role model. so are several disney characters, but that doesnt make them real :what:

but theres really nothin to discuss with someone who believes in the devil. i have literally nothin to say to u breh :scusthov:. give up the childish shyt, or maybe ask yourself why god wouldnt just merk the devil if he really cared about its influence on all his children
 

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All This Uproar About Nothing

Having Actually Played The Game The Poster Is Of A Queen
 
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