So trust the process sixers drafted 3 busts?

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They're almost blessed embiid had injuries preventing him from being the obvious #1 pick... Imagine them with Wiggins or jabari instead :huhldup:
Those are two players I believe the environment affected their development big time.

I think they’d be different if we seen them with those young Sixer teams, especially Jabari because who knows with his injuries.
 

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Those are two players I believe the environment affected their development big time.

I think they’d be different if we seen them with those young Sixer teams, especially Jabari because who knows with his injuries.




Not to mention wiggins, kat and zach pretty much could only rely on each other no big time vet teaching. Bron not taking andrew under his wing stunted him imo. I think kyrie would have stayed too
 

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Yea but the 76ers process was mostly based on luck. If Embiid didn't make a full recovery then the 6ers 'process' would be looked at in a different light even with Fultz and Simmons.
How is a player getting healthy luck? Sixers got unlucky tons of times throughout the Process.

Tons of times when they had protected picks that they missed on by 1 spot, 1 win. 2015 NBA Draft Sixers had Miami's pick top 10 protected, Miami finished exactly 10th. Sixers get that pick at 11? Odds are they take a guard after picking Okafor on top of Embiid and Noel. Next guard on the board? Devin Booker who went 13th. Same draft Sixers had the OKC 1st lottery protected, OKC finishes at the exact end of the lottery. Had they gotten that pick at 15, the guys selected directly at 15 and 16 were Oubre then Rozier. Instead of having Booker + Oubre/Rozier, Sixers ended up with Korkmaz and Luwawu as those picks rolled over to 24th and 26th by the next draft. That's getting unlucky.

What happened to Fultz, the consensus #1 that a lot of scouts thought was maybe the best guard prospect of the decade, has never been seen before. Unlucky. Simmons breaks his foot on a freak play and has to miss an entire season? Unlucky. Embiid takes an awkward fall his rookie season and tears his meniscus? Unlucky. Sixers have been very unlucky throughout The Process.
 

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Come on, breh. You're better than this.

The Process was about getting as many cracks at generational talents as possible. Drafting is an inexact science, and there are too many variables in a draft to ensure you will always get the best player at your slot. As such, their goal was simply to ensure they had as many lottery picks as possible over a half-decade span.

To be fair, I never understood the Okafor pick and thought he was gonna bust. MCW was picked I think 9th which is not traditionally a fruitful draft slot. The jury's out on Fultz. If he succeeds, you can say The Process worked.
 

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Point of the process is setting yourself up to roll the dice over-and-over on high picks, and you're missing a lot of context.

MCW was the 11th pick in shytty class, he shouldn't have been much anyway. Sam fleeced the league and tricked everyone into thinking he was good so he could later flip MCW for LA's 1st round pick. Great move and great value for the 11th pick in the 2013 draft.

We traded away Holiday for Noel + a future first so we could start our tank and gamble on Nerlens' upside. He's a good player, was one in Philly, just didn't fit here with the emergence of Embiid and got stuck in a terrible situation in Dallas with a bad manager. He'll pan out, dude is a high level defender who racks up blocks and steals and is making his free throws at a good rate, and can throw down tons of lobs. If he was in Houston, he'd be looking similar to(not exactly) like Capela right now to the people.

More importantly, we got a future first in that deal that became the 10th pick in 2014 which we then flipped for 12 and got another future first too. With 12 we got Dario Saric who was a phenomenal selection on top of Embiid who we got at #3. People sleep on Dario, combines toughness with the skillset to become one of the best 4s in the league on offense.

Okafor was a bust, but signs point towards that not being Hinkie's selection. After Embiid's injury and with Dario still in Europe, ownership got hesitant in letting Sam choose someone that was considered a big question mark like KP. People forget Porzingis was supposed to take forever to develop and had huge bust potential, plus he didn't workout with Philly. He was an unknown to the average fan, and as we saw from Knicks' fans on draft night wouldn't have initially been a popular selection amongst the people filling your arena. Owners wanted the "surefire" ready from day 1 Okafor that everyone knew fresh off of a national title and would bring in fans. Okafor rated poorly analytically in college though, which completely contradicts everything Hinkie stood for as a former Morey understudy. I don't think he really picked Jah, he was forced to.

Simmons, Embiid, Saric, Fultz, Covington, cheap role players like TJ, future draft assets, and tons of cap flexibility :ttpblessed:
Watch ya mouth disrespecting The Process :ufdup:we changed the league :mjgrin:
nikkas treating Hinkie's sacrificial pawns as actual busts...its Philly's fault they got stuck actually wasting two of those guys/trying to use them fr
 

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Simmons and that other tall dude, the one on the cover of nba live 19 have draft bust written all over them.

MCW won rookie of the year and where is he now?

Tyreke Evans anyone? :sas1:
 

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mcw okafor and Nerlens. That set them back a long time. And who knows about Tatum/Fultz trade

Noel isn't a bust. He made an awful decision not taking 70 million when he could've. He's still a good defensive big man.

MCW was a bust but the Sixers didn't feel any consequences from it because they traded him for another lottery pick before anyone realized it. Now because of MCW they have Zhaire Smith and Miami's unprotected pick in 2021.

Simmons, Embiid, and Saric turned out fine. 50/50 shot Fultz pays off as well. Plus you gotta mention the Kings pick swap trade, which is one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history.

The Process is on schedule.
 

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Lets be reality, 76ers had the 3rd best rebuild. The Warriors are 1st, rebuilding from the days of baron davis, monta ellis and jason richardson

Celtics are 2nd as much as i hate them, instead of tanking they traded for draft picks. Ainge made words like "finessed" and "fleeced" popular. I think they only missed the playoffs one year during their rebuild. The scary thing is theyre not even finished :francis:

76ers did it on some sucker shyt tanking year after year and now the race for last has become just as competitive as the race for first. But im not hating, i fukks with the team they got now. Hopefully they got better, someone please beat the Boston :mjcry:

I can see it now, fukkin c00ns and Irish scum running through them Boston streets :mjpls:
 

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In essence, they're 3 for 6 with one TBD,

3 hits = Embiid, Simmons, Saric

3 misses = MCW, Noel, Okafor

Fultz TBD

They batting .500, with the hits being 2 homers and a double. Not too bad. Those are results that you can live with, at minimum, and I aint even a Sixers fan.
 

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Point of the process is setting yourself up to roll the dice over-and-over on high picks, and you're missing a lot of context.

MCW was the 11th pick in shytty class, he shouldn't have been much anyway. Sam fleeced the league and tricked everyone into thinking he was good so he could later flip MCW for LA's 1st round pick. Great move and great value for the 11th pick in the 2013 draft.

We traded away Holiday for Noel + a future first so we could start our tank and gamble on Nerlens' upside. He's a good player, was one in Philly, just didn't fit here with the emergence of Embiid and got stuck in a terrible situation in Dallas with a bad manager. He'll pan out, dude is a high level defender who racks up blocks and steals and is making his free throws at a good rate, and can throw down tons of lobs. If he was in Houston, he'd be looking similar to(not exactly) like Capela right now to the people.

More importantly, we got a future first in that deal that became the 10th pick in 2014 which we then flipped for 12 and got another future first too. With 12 we got Dario Saric who was a phenomenal selection on top of Embiid who we got at #3. People sleep on Dario, combines toughness with the skillset to become one of the best 4s in the league on offense.

Okafor was a bust, but signs point towards that not being Hinkie's selection. After Embiid's injury and with Dario still in Europe, ownership got hesitant in letting Sam choose someone that was considered a big question mark like KP. People forget Porzingis was supposed to take forever to develop and had huge bust potential, plus he didn't workout with Philly. He was an unknown to the average fan, and as we saw from Knicks' fans on draft night wouldn't have initially been a popular selection amongst the people filling your arena. Owners wanted the "surefire" ready from day 1 Okafor that everyone knew fresh off of a national title and would bring in fans. Okafor rated poorly analytically in college though, which completely contradicts everything Hinkie stood for as a former Morey understudy. I don't think he really picked Jah, he was forced to.

Simmons, Embiid, Saric, Fultz, Covington, cheap role players like TJ, future draft assets, and tons of cap flexibility :ttpblessed:
Watch ya mouth disrespecting The Process :ufdup:we changed the league :mjgrin:
We got basketball historians on theColi :banderas:

Dap+Rep :salute:
 

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Noel isn't a bust. He made an awful decision not taking 70 million when he could've. He's still a good defensive big man.

MCW was a bust but the Sixers didn't feel any consequences from it because they traded him for another lottery pick before anyone realized it. Now because of MCW they have Zhaire Smith and Miami's unprotected pick in 2021.

Simmons, Embiid, and Saric turned out fine. 50/50 shot Fultz pays off as well. Plus you gotta mention the Kings pick swap trade, which is one of the most lopsided trades in NBA history.

The Process is on schedule.
That Miami pick :whew:

Unprotected and most likely the first year high schoolers can come to the league again :banderas:

Philly Finesse :wow:
 
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