So Wait...Noah & Butler Had Beef ?
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at how this argument is still on 
I can see how there'd be beef between Butler and the rest of the Bulls. It's become apparent that Butler didn't want to just be a part of a winning team, he wanted to be the man leading that team. Thing was he probably was always like this but just didn't have the clout early on as the guy at the end of the bench.
Noah and the others liked him as he was seemingly a quiet unnassuming guy that transformed into a scrappy role player around 2013-14. That's what they thought his ceiling was... problem was Butler's growth didn't stop there. He kept getting better to the point that it was debatable whether it was him or Rose's team and that's when things really started to unravel.
Noah has always been in Rose's corner but I could see Butler looking at Rose missing all that time and thinking "why shouldn't I be the man?" which would cause dissension within the Bulls heirarchy. What made Rose so good as the leader of those Bulls squads was that he never sought it out; it just came naturally since he was their best player. With Butler however it always felt forced.
The whole saga seems kinda Kobe-esque to me really. Like how when Kobe was young no one really knew his real personality, then as he started getting better it started to show. As Kobe got better his relationship with the established guy (Shaq) deteriorated as he pushed to be the man himself, thinking himself a better candidate as a guy that works hard over Shaq, who he saw as lazy and didn't take the game as seriously as he did
Noah and the others liked him as he was seemingly a quiet unnassuming guy that transformed into a scrappy role player around 2013-14. That's what they thought his ceiling was... problem was Butler's growth didn't stop there. He kept getting better to the point that it was debatable whether it was him or Rose's team and that's when things really started to unravel.
Noah has always been in Rose's corner but I could see Butler looking at Rose missing all that time and thinking "why shouldn't I be the man?" which would cause dissension within the Bulls heirarchy. What made Rose so good as the leader of those Bulls squads was that he never sought it out; it just came naturally since he was their best player. With Butler however it always felt forced.
The whole saga seems kinda Kobe-esque to me really. Like how when Kobe was young no one really knew his real personality, then as he started getting better it started to show. As Kobe got better his relationship with the established guy (Shaq) deteriorated as he pushed to be the man himself, thinking himself a better candidate as a guy that works hard over Shaq, who he saw as lazy and didn't take the game as seriously as he did
Kinguno
The Immortal
Butler went on to ten times his offensive output he should have been their leader but most of that team were hardened vets basically crushed by the health failings of their leader so this young hot shot guy ruined the team and last season he clicked up with Wade and Rondo causing more mini clicks within the team
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
he is basically the son of france's greatest actualized professional athletic champion breh, and kinda treated as social royalty in france suppposedly.
art barr
Yeah. Only difference is that there’s a 6 year age gap between Kobe and Shaq, and less than a year gap between Butler and Rose. Wasn’t gonna be a situation of Rose passing the reigns to the young guy, when they’re basically the same age. Also, Kobe was a lottery pick, and only reason he wasn’t picked higher is because HS players just started entering the draft again with KG the previous year, and no guard had ever been picked straight out of HS. Kobe scored like 30 in the Rookie game. He definitely was on the path to stardom even as a kid. Butler was the 30th pick, and basically drafted to be a role playing defender.