Maybe I should have asked what realistic proposals do ya'll have to kids as an alternative to college? I'm not talking about bringing in legislation.
so we all know college is a blatant racket right? so why do ppl continue to support it?
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Maybe I should have asked what realistic proposals do ya'll have to kids as an alternative to college? I'm not talking about bringing in legislation.
You can and i do.
R.E.N. Spells Ren
Veteran
One of the biggest problem with the usefulness of college is that most kids don't appreciate the fact that they're PAYING to attend. Kids skipping class thinking it's cool like it's high school and shyt....I'm like 'nikka, you've skipped thousands of dollars worth of lectures this semester, da fukk is wrong wit you?
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People don't appreciate shyt they don't pay for and college kids often haven't grasped the fact that they're paying for this. Most people look back on college and regret not taking greater advantage of all the resources that were at their fingertips.
I ask you this: do your gripes about the usefulness of college apply nearly as poignantly to those who decide to attend college as adults?
"People don't appreciate shyt they don't pay for and college kids often haven't grasped the fact that they're paying for this. Most people look back on college and regret not taking greater advantage of all the resources that were at their fingertips.
I ask you this: do your gripes about the usefulness of college apply nearly as poignantly to those who decide to attend college as adults?
Ya just a way to let employers know you have long term commitment
baracka zulu
I don't pop molly, but I'll fuk Rob Ford (nh)
Ok, so, make another institution of higher learning. 
college is not the ripoff. it's a tool. but some people just don't need the tool. matter of fact, a lot of people have no business being in college. not because they're not smart. but because they don't have goals and objectives. and the ones that do some of them don't even need college to reach their objectives.
as others have said, unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, a teacher/professor, accountant or anything where you need certification, chances are you don't "need" college. you don't need college to learn how to be an entrepreneur.
on the flipside, most of us aren't entrepreneurs. not everyone should be an entrepreneur. and if you want to work for a big corporation and climb up, chances are you probably need college. smaller business you probably only need connections in a lot of cases. college helps you network as well but there are other ways to network and a lot of people who end up going to college don't even network like that. as far as the actual knowledge, again unless you want to be a doctor, engineer, physicist, biologist, chemist, etc, (where you would actually need access to supplies, equipment and facilities), you can get most of the knowledge for free in libraries or online through an internet connection you already pay for anyway.
i'm not pro or against college. in some situations it makes sense, in some it doesn't. i just feel like you should at least know why you're going to college, why you need it and how it fits into helping you achieve your objectives. not just go because "it's the thing to do". people paying the school without knowing why they're attending and then blame the school for taking their money, blame the financial institution for charging them interest, blame everyone except themselves...
you should also have a sound financial plan on how to manage the cost of college if you choose to go. "i'll just get my dream job when i graduate and pay off my debt in no time" is not a sound financial plan in this uncertain job market.
as others have said, unless you want to be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, a teacher/professor, accountant or anything where you need certification, chances are you don't "need" college. you don't need college to learn how to be an entrepreneur.
on the flipside, most of us aren't entrepreneurs. not everyone should be an entrepreneur. and if you want to work for a big corporation and climb up, chances are you probably need college. smaller business you probably only need connections in a lot of cases. college helps you network as well but there are other ways to network and a lot of people who end up going to college don't even network like that. as far as the actual knowledge, again unless you want to be a doctor, engineer, physicist, biologist, chemist, etc, (where you would actually need access to supplies, equipment and facilities), you can get most of the knowledge for free in libraries or online through an internet connection you already pay for anyway.
i'm not pro or against college. in some situations it makes sense, in some it doesn't. i just feel like you should at least know why you're going to college, why you need it and how it fits into helping you achieve your objectives. not just go because "it's the thing to do". people paying the school without knowing why they're attending and then blame the school for taking their money, blame the financial institution for charging them interest, blame everyone except themselves...
you should also have a sound financial plan on how to manage the cost of college if you choose to go. "i'll just get my dream job when i graduate and pay off my debt in no time" is not a sound financial plan in this uncertain job market.
151_Pr00f
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It's been proven that a college education increases your earning potential but I support getting one because it serves an even greater function.
I think it would benefit society to have more than just a drone like workforce of individuals who are only limited to skills that cater to highly specialized fields of work. I also realize that college isn't for everyone. You can do well getting certified in a trade school or finding a stable blue collar job (which is a rarity nowadays). Yet, if we want democracy to flourish it's equally important to cultivate a culture that examines ideas skeptically and critically. That's the function of college, more specifically the liberal arts degrees. Teaching you to value learning for the sake of learning and not just utility. The oligarchs and super rich would be satisfied if you only knew just enough to calculate how much change you get back after you made a purchase. They don't want you to question public policy or explore novel ideas that may threaten their ever growing amount of capital.
I think it would benefit society to have more than just a drone like workforce of individuals who are only limited to skills that cater to highly specialized fields of work. I also realize that college isn't for everyone. You can do well getting certified in a trade school or finding a stable blue collar job (which is a rarity nowadays). Yet, if we want democracy to flourish it's equally important to cultivate a culture that examines ideas skeptically and critically. That's the function of college, more specifically the liberal arts degrees. Teaching you to value learning for the sake of learning and not just utility. The oligarchs and super rich would be satisfied if you only knew just enough to calculate how much change you get back after you made a purchase. They don't want you to question public policy or explore novel ideas that may threaten their ever growing amount of capital.
Apprenticeships
Being taught actual work skills and gaining potential employment for young people,plus you get paid a good amount depending on level of apprenticeship
I do not see the point in going to an average grade college and studying something that will not give you versatile skills for the work place
Flay Mayweather
Superstar
This thread sounds so familiar
i agree in theory. the problem is, that's kind of expensive price to pay to learn how to debate and how to think critically when again you can get a lot of that same knowledge in libraries, online, even on messageboards (lol, and yes i think i'm actually kind of serious with that last one).
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I think people spend too much on useless shyt.
Lol...if you can't get a job in the US, you could use your hyped up stem degrees in Africa or the third world and live like kings. Asia is where it is at. America is slowly collapsing
perfectblack999
All Star
Stop majoring in useless sh*t and you won't get swindled. Everyday you see articles saying America has a shortage of engineers but people don't wanna put that work in.