So we still pushing that Lebron better than Kobe BS?

[IGSaint12]

no, the object is to score the basketball. efficiency is irrelevant if you SCORE more than the other opponent. If this wasnt the case, it would be impossible to beat a team shooting a much higher fg% but it happens ALL the damn time. So efficiency is just another stat, the stat that matters at the end of the day is points. If Team A shoots 37% and has 85 points and Team B shoots 45% and has 81 points. Its pretty clear efficiency takes the backseat.

Jordan never went into a game thinking "ok I got to shoot 50%, and be efficicient. Thats my goal." NO. He went in with the mindset of scoring at all cost. Thats why he has so many 12-33, 9-29 statlines. THe object of the game is to score. Of course every player wants to be efficient because that means more points, but efficiency is NOT the end be all of basketball. Teams win shooting 40% all the time. Lakers won Game 7 of the finals shooting 38%. Let that sink in.

Allen Iverson won an MVP and got his team to the FINALS shooting 38%. If efficiency was the end-be-all goal of basketball, that would not be possible. Many superstars have thrown efficiency in the bushes. Try again.

Goddamn this is the best argument I've seen regarding this topic on this forum. dap

 

[L@CaT]

Goddamn this is the best argument I've seen regarding this topic on this forum. dap

Do you have Down syndrome?

 

[IGSaint12]

Do you have Down syndrome?

No but you seem to have a serious case of lebron's dikk in your mouth.

 

[L@CaT]

No but you seem to have a serious case of lebron's dikk in your mouth.

 

[Malik]

Ohh but you fail to mention the Bulls series was won in 6 and not a game 7 smart guy.

Fuk outta here. You in here slobbering over Kobe dikk when he played like ass, but I'm the fakkit?

What difference does it make? Are we arguing what Finals game it's okay to shoot poorly in or that Kobe is the only one to have ever shot poorly in a close out game? He's not. Jordan shot 26 fukkin percent. I hate you clown ass nikkas

And you didn't address the fact that all the players in Game 7 played poorly because you know it's a fukkin fact. You just wanna shyt on Kobe. Your argument sucks. Next.

 

[Demonic Jenkins]

Definitely better

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[Demonic Jenkins]

Smh @the idiot talking about efficiency is just a stat....idiot Jordan career fg% is pretty much 50%...you think he'd be the goat if he shot a 44% percentage? You think he'd have the same success?

There's a reason all the legends shoot over 46% for their careers (the highest Kobe ever shot in a season)....


There's a reason Kobe has the lowest fg% out of the top 10 legends in the game.

How does it look if you make a list of top 10 players ever and Kobe has the lowest out of them all? You think that's a coincidence?



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[L@CaT]

What difference does it make? Are we arguing what Finals game it's okay to shoot poorly in or that Kobe is the only one to have ever shot poorly in a close out game? He's not. Jordan shot 26 fukkin percent. I hate you clown ass nikkas

And you didn't address the fact that all the players in Game 7 played poorly because you know it's a fukkin fact. You just wanna shyt on Kobe. Your argument sucks. Next.

What Difference Does It Make? The Premise of My ARGUMENT WAS BASED ON GAME 7 FINALS YOU FUKIN RETARD.. DID I SAY GAME 6? DID I STATE SUPER STAR PLAYERS ARE IN CAPABLE OF HAVING BAD GAMES? NO, I DID NOT... ITS DUMB MUTHAFUKAS LIKE YOU, WHO HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION AND GO OFF ON YOUR OWN FUKIN TANGENTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PREMISE OF THE ARGUMENT.. LOOK AT MY ORIGINAL POST, WORST GAME 7 PERFORMANCE IN A FINALS EVER...GAME 7, NOT GAME 6, NOT GAME 5... A GAME 7, SO STICK TO THE TOPIC INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SWAY AN ARGUMENT INTO SOMETHING YOU CAN ACTUALLY DEBATE Pathetic....

Jordan Was Often a Ball Hog and Shot the Ball Way too Much and Didnt Get his Teammates Involved in Games.. That was the earlier part of his career.. Jordan Was Capable of having Horrible Shooting Nights as well.. But We Know Game 7, NEVER THAT!!!

KOBE WAS FLAT OUT HORRIBLE GAME 7, POINT,BLANK,PERIOD.. DONT TRY AND SPIN IT LIKE HE WASNT

 

[L@CaT]

What difference does it make? Are we arguing what Finals game it's okay to shoot poorly in or that Kobe is the only one to have ever shot poorly in a close out game? He's not. Jordan shot 26 fukkin percent. I hate you clown ass nikkas

And you didn't address the fact that all the players in Game 7 played poorly because you know it's a fukkin fact. You just wanna shyt on Kobe. Your argument sucks. Next.

Breh, these are obviously young Kids... By their logic Kobe Could Ave 30 Pts a Game on 25% Shooting and it would be Great by their standards

 

[L@CaT]

@Malik even taking Jordans Game 6 into consideration.. Jordan was being defended by one of greatest One on One Defenders in NBA History In His Prime in Gary Payton..While Kobe was being Defended by a flabby Ray Allen or an Undersized Rondo

 

[Malik]

23 and 15 isnt a poor performance any way you try to spin it. It was a defensive slugout, only 1 player on the team shot above 40% and that was Derek Fisher. Paul Pierce was 5-15 and Ray Allen 3-14. One of the greatest defensive games of all-time. I didnt hear people say shyt either when Jordan shot 29% in Game 7 of the 96 Finals. So try again.

Dog...these nikkas didnt even watch Game 7

You wasting your breath.

That game was like the twelfth round of a boxing match. Both teams threw the fg% in the bushes and was trying to win. They looked like they was about to die out there

 

[Dwight Howard]

Smh @the idiot talking about efficiency is just a stat....idiot Jordan career fg% is pretty much 50%...you think he'd be the goat if he shot a 44% percentage? You think he'd have the same success?

There's a reason all the legends shoot over 46% for their careers (the highest Kobe ever shot in a season)....


There's a reason Kobe has the lowest fg% out of the top 10 legends in the game.

How does it look if you make a list of top 10 players ever and Kobe has the lowest out of them all? You think that's a coincidence?



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efficiency is not the objective of basketball, scoring more points than your opponent is. Thats what I said. If you want to debate that fine but im not debating some words YOU put in my mouth.

You can win games without being efficient, you cant win game without outscoring your opponents.

90 points on 38% shooting >>>> 84 points on 52% shooting

^^^^thats is why scoring takes priority over efficiency. The object of the game isnt to shoot 50%, its to outscore your opponent. The game of basketball doesnt care if you shoot 45% or 54%, it only cares about which team has the most points. Now if you want to debate that point fine.

Also, your top 10 point if flawed. Kobe is regarded as top 10, really 5, shooting 45% over his career. Karl Malone isnt and he shot 51%. Its that simple.

Wade is also historically more efficient than Kobe, as well as Charles Barkley and Garnett but who's taking them over Kobe? Not many and thats because Kobe fuffilled basketball's objective of outscoring his opponents, thus winning on the highest of stages 5x. If efficiency was the objective of basketball, outscoring your opponent, thus winning, wouldnt matter. I mean who cares that player A's team got whacked by 15, they shot 50%. Nah it dont work like that.

 

[Dwight Howard]

@Malik even taking Jordans Game 6 into consideration.. Jordan was being defended by one of greatest One on One Defenders in NBA History In His Prime in Gary Payton..While Kobe was being Defended by a flabby Ray Allen or an Undersized Rondo

you do realize the 2010 Boston Celtics had a higher ranked defense than ANY team Jordan faced in the Finals right?

 

[L@CaT]

you do realize the 2010 Boston Celtics had a higher ranked defense than ANY team Jordan faced in the Finals right?

I see....... so Defensive Effciency Matters But Offensive Effciency Doesn't

You're Brillant beyond your years

 

[Dwight Howard]

I see....... so Defensive Effciency Matters But Offensive Effciency Doesn't

You're Brillant beyond your years

first off I never said offensive efficiency didnt matter, I said its not the objective of the game of basketball. Secondly, defensive ratings measure points allowed per 100 possessions. It measures how effective a defense is in limiting points by the opponent. Two different animals.

The 2008-2010 Boston Celtics had one of the highest rated defenses of all time, rated even higher than the defenses Mike faced. So the point you made about Jordan facing tougher defenses is just bullshyt. Now carry on.