So what are these secret VSTs that cats is tryna hide?(Producer thread)

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Some VSTs are so good that you can have a song with only one VST playing, and people will think you used like 5 or 10 different sounds...

Some presets are so good that they make the most basic composition sound majestic...

A good VST will change the feel and sound of your music drastically...
I used to use hardware exclusively until I had a 6 month long dry spell.. Picked up reason a few weeks ago and Ive been making serious progress since then- Like I'd say 70% of the days I spend making music end up being productive

During the 6 months leading up, it was more like 20%

You gotta keep expanding your palette of sounds
 

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Aight, imma give you guys some tips/knowledge that ive accumulated, trust me this is some professional quality stuff

IDK if you guys already know this, but native instruments is one of the best companies for anything production related. Battery is a famous drum VST, i dont like it personally but its reallly good (i have a maschine so i dont need that shyt). I think every producer should have the full Kontakt library, kontakt is a beautiful vst that has a shytload of expansions, the factory content pack that i have has a lot of very high quality instruments, horns, bass, strings, choir, cinematic drums, all PROFESSIONAL quality (people use this for making movie scores). NI also has reaktor, which is a complicated synth VST that can make pretty much any sound ever if you use it right, thats the type of thing that top notch sound designers use, if you can use it you can be as good of a producer as your imagination allows. Theres also Absynth which is really good as well. Keep in mind these are for making synth sounds, if your more into just using instruments then kontakt is for you.

Trillian is the best vst ive found for any bass sounds. Theres some SICK sounding leads on there, most are low frequency, it emulates most classic synths, mainly moogs, idk where else to go with this but if you want to make good ass music GET TRILLIAN!

Sylenth is a must have, professional producers use this mainly for the preset sounds

My favorite synth right now is Alchemy, by camel. Camel makes a lot of good products too. Alchemy is one for real synth users, some complicated stuff, but the possiblities are endless with it, just like with reaktor and absynth. Those are all professional quality synths.

Then theres massive, also by NI, if you dont know what massive is, you probably arent deep enough into production culture. Massive is the synth i recommend to anyone (along with sylenth) who is trying to get into making synth sounds. Its very straight forward and intuitive, yet powerful. A lot of professional musicians (skrillex) use it.

Nexus, gladiator, and omnisphere, are three of the best vst's for built-in preset sounds. I have the nexus expansion library, which has an incredible amount of sounds of all types. Omnisphere ive never used cuz its annoying to set up and takes a lot of HD space, but from what i know its a total must have for any serious producer (i only dont use it because im more into programming synths than using presets). I dont use gladiator, it has good ass hip hop sounds, if you want to make trap/commercial beats gladiator is a must have, most of the dudes like mike will, metro, lex, use gladiator.

Right now i use Trillian for bass/cool ass leads, sylenth for presets/making subbass sounds, alchemy for making synths (trust me this shyt will up your game x1000), kontakt for instruments (strings, horns, orchestral, choir), Maschine for drums/misc. sounds, nexus for presets, and operator for different kinds of synths (ableton built in synth).

READ THIS!!!!: Instrument VST's are great for upping your game, but i cannot emphasize enough the importance of knowing what your doing. Most if not all popular DAW's come with quality vsts, enough to the point where if you know what your doing you dont need additional vsts. If you spend all your time collecting vsts but not learning simple programming, mixing, layering, etc., your wasting time. ALSO, id say learning how to use effects and learning how to mix, is just as important as learning how to make/use sounds. If you dont know how exactly to use a compressor, ASDR, gate, limiter, eq, filter, envelope, etc., you dont know what your doing. If you dont know how to use effects like reverb, distortion, delay, chorus, etc., you dont know what your doing. Knowing how to mix and use effects is the difference between amateur and professional producers.

I highly recommend three of my favorite mixing suites, Izotope, Sonalksis, and Waves plugins. These are all very professional quality mixing and effects suites, you shouldnt need more than these ever for mixing (rly you only need waves, that has a ton of mixing/effects vst's). Most DAW's come with more than adequate mixing/effects plugins, i use these though because theyre more powerful than the ones that come with ableton.

BTW OP, any professional producer would tell you that the type of music those dudes make could be made with most basic vst's. The shyt i use could make some ridiculous trap beats, i dont really go for that but sometimes i mess with it an get good results in like 10 minutes. If your lazy though just pick up gladiator, nexus, omnisphere, or/and sylenth, those will give you enough presets to do the job. But your never gonna make those quality of beats if you cant mix/use effects right.
 

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There's no secret VSTs :laugh:

Most of these dudes use Nexus, Gladiator, Sylenth, Massive, Omnisphere or Alchemy.

For fxs and mixing it's usually Waves Renaissance stuff like RBass, RVerb, RComp, and RVox.

edit: seen dude already say the same thing.
 
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I know what's up with VSTs.

I just see people wanting these sounds when they don't really need them.

A musician always needs sounds...I always want new VSTs, even the "sh_tty" ones...

If I see free VST, I am downloading...You never know what type of weird, crazy or funky sound you develop...

The same when I am sampling, I want to flip every kind of music out there...
 

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A musician always needs sounds...I always want new VSTs, even the "sh_tty" ones...

If I see free VST, I am downloading...You never know what type of weird, crazy or funky sound you develop...

The same when I am sampling, I want to flip every kind of music out there...

I feel you. I actually used to be the same way. Downloaded about 80 gigs of Reason refills :wow:

But then I ended up only using about 4 to 5 gigs of the sounds consistently.

My thing is, some producers are too worried about getting new sounds before they MASTER the sounds/equipment/instruments they have.
 

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To add on to what is already here. You can trick out anything that you already use if you invest the time and energy into learning it from front to back. The real *secret* is to learn how to design sounds from scratch.

Sound Design 101: Synthesizer Basics - Part 1UniqueSquared Pro Audio Blog

This is a long-winded description of basic core ideals that can help anyone move beyond looking for the hot preset/vst of the day.

I have done hardware/software and a combination of both.

I have almost 12 years in this thing and I can tell you NOTHING takes the place of learning music theory, learning sound design, learning how to use effects and learning how to throw down a decent mix.

I used to hate going to studios and asking for tricks and getting served with answers like this.

But there really are no tricks. There are only tools.
 

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Anybody played with those EastWest vst? Is there anything else on the market for live instruments sounds?

Ive never used EastWest but Ive seen a video where wither Justice League or Cardiak uses it. But like dude said NI Kontakt and Komplete is where it's at for those instruments.
 

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Are dudes still using Battery for drums?

Hypersonic 2 is one of the best things I've ever used. Most of everything I've ever done I used that. And if you take time, you can tweak that to do almost anything. Before that, I used Samepletank.

Personally, you can make almost ANY thing sound good if you take time to learn what you have and tweak it. ALot of dudes DL so much stuff they never really know what they have.

And at the end of the day, you gotta know what you're doing tho to get the most out of ur software. I still use an old version of Cubase as a sequencer b/c I can get around quickly on it. I'd like to learn Logic, but I dont have time now to re-learn something else.

Look at Pharrell, he's clearly still using the same kits or keyboard pre-sets he was in the early-mid 00's. He made that 2Chainz song on the spot for him b/c he knows his keyboard inside/out.
 
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