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amir muhmmad killed notorious big and orlando anderson killed pac / thread

Biggie could have got squeezed from many different sides, remember Suge knew keffe on some neighborhood shyt, and suge went out his way to not snitch on keffe and crew, even subtly defended talking about out of towners thinking thinking they can come and run cali...If you open mind this biggie shyt could go many ways with what we do know![]()
Poochie dressed as F.O.I
I believe is the most accurate.
Lmao yeah my bad I'm tired as fukk lol
I read murder rap when it came out and I see the doc too. I believe what he says in there to be true to an extent. I believe puffy put money on the Deathrow chains .. I don't 100 % believe he put the hit out on Pac and Suge. Keeffe D is apparently a known liar and to add to that he was desperate in trying to avoid time .. Maybe he made some shyt up ..
I also am unsure about the Poochie thing. Ive heard from a credible source that it wasn't MOB that killed Suge. That could be vague because if MOB put the hit out then they was responsible. If Poochie did then obviously it leads back to Suge.
The way I see it is Biggie was an innocent dude caught up in all of it. So the only reason I believe BIG would've been killed was retaliation.
So it has to connect back to Suge. I don't see any other reason why BIG would've been killed.
If we really wanna reach then a scenario of this could maybe have been possible .. Puff putting the hit out. The crips kill Pac and puffy doesn't pay up so they take out BIG too.
I think we need to remember a couple things tho. Keffe D along with other crips was present at award shows and provided security for the bad boy camp. Puffy had connections to Orlando Anderson. It would just seem too obvious and foolish if puff gave these same dudes money to kill Tupac.
And thats why I kept it vague![]()
I definitely think puff put the hit out on tupac and suge why else would they be braggin about it on longkiss and why would they meet up with baby lane and keffe d after Pac died. Plus even on the jay z diss against pac dead or alive pt.1 Sauce money raps ´´Trigger lead knew how bad we needed the nikka dead´´ he was basically saying that orlando knew how much them eastcoast nikkas wanted Pac dead. Funny thing about it was that them nikkas didnt really think much of killing Tupac. Thats why biggie came to la and freestyled longkiss on the radio thinking nothing would happen.
well u got to remember jimmy henchmen hatian jack king tut was extorting biggie puffy and whoever else was at bad boy.
anyone got a link to that track? never even heard thatI think BIG was caught up in it and prob still mad he got dissed so hard. Long kiss was a mistake. Coming to LA was obviously a huge mistake.
I think the bragging shyt was just puff getting some balls because he assumed things was safe for him to talk shyt.
I still wanna see some sort of proof or evidence that Orlando was with BIG and puff for that charity b ball game or what ever it was when they came to LA.
I never paid much attention to that jay z diss .. It was azz imo so it just goes over my head. I guess only sauce money knows who he was talking about ..
I definitely think puff put the hit out on tupac and suge why else would they be braggin about it on longkiss and why would they meet up with baby lane and keffe d after Pac died. Plus even on the jay z diss against pac dead or alive pt.1 Sauce money raps ´´Trigger lead knew how bad we needed the nikka dead´´ he was basically saying that orlando knew how much them eastcoast nikkas wanted Pac dead. Funny thing about it was that them nikkas didnt really think much of killing Tupac. Thats why biggie came to la and freestyled longkiss on the radio thinking nothing would happen.