So Whats The End Game For Gentrification?

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I like to follow it. Because it’s always interesting looking at the people’s faces; the ones who replace those who use to live in an area. I’m all for freedom and all that jazz but tell me why you didn’t think the schools in the area didn’t need improvement before your nephew and his girlfriend decided they didn’t want to live in their hometown anymore and want to start a family in a formerly predominantly black neighborhood?

It sickens me to look at the people happy in an area where people use to struggle. It’s a failure of our systems (well, not mine, but America’s systems). And to think they believe it’s about shifting people around instead of giving them the tools to move themselves? Or maybe just fukking NOT trying to move people out of somewhere because YOUVE got some idea about what can be done
 

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I like to follow it. Because it’s always interesting looking at the people’s faces; the ones who replace those who use to live in an area. I’m all for freedom and all that jazz but tell me why you didn’t think the schools in the area didn’t need improvement before your nephew and his girlfriend decided they didn’t want to live in their hometown anymore and want to start a family in a formerly predominantly black neighborhood?

It sickens me to look at the people happy in an area where people use to struggle. It’s a failure of our systems (well, not mine, but America’s systems). And to think they believe it’s about shifting people around instead of giving them the tools to move themselves? Or maybe just fukking NOT trying to move people out of somewhere because YOUVE got some idea about what can be done

Bc alot of these neighborhoods are prime territory. The people in the neighborhood just dont realize it & some leave to the suburbs first thing they do when they get money.

That shyt annoys me to no end.
 

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Bc alot of these neighborhoods are prime territory. The people in the neighborhood just dont realize it & some leave to the suburbs first thing they do when they get money.
I know they are, but tell me why our politicians and public servants couldn’t improve our neighborhoods? Schools? It’s becausr they don’t know how to. Their answer is capitalism backed by racism and classism. And it you let that force take control, you’ll never be looking out for those who really need the help, and you’ll be helping a lot of people who had options to begin with.

Destroying something and rebuilding won’t solve the problem if you’re working with fukked up blueprints
 

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The frontiersmen come in living 4 to a studio and working as baristas while doing art in their spare time, then comes the hipsters calling the cops on their neighbors because they don't feel safe etc etc, then once they move in, the yuppies follow suit..rinse and repeat. It's like Manifest Destiny...

Here are some good reads if you're interested.

Abstract The inauguration of Ronald Reagan as President of the United States and his economic policy, nicknamed "Reaganomics," which in part deregulated the stock market, brought about great social change in the U.S. during the 1980s (Niskanen). The change is exemplified in Manhattan with the emergence of the Wall Street yuppie culture. Newsweek dubbed 1984 the Year of the Yuppie (Girard 168). Manhattan became the new urban frontier, where the yuppies, confined to Upper Manhattan, were trying to conquer other neighborhoods by marginalizing the middle and lower classes; these actions are similar to early Americans who, believing in Manifest Destiny, set out to expand the United States' border to reach the Pacific Ocean. Men led the first frontier advancement and their masculinity was defined relative to boyhood according to social interactions like family relations, friendships, employment, and romantic relationships. With the close of the frontier in 1890, men were encouraged to partake in and support U.S. imperialism, conquering new (and foreign) frontiers (Rotundo 235). When compared, although time and technological advances distinguish the period following the North American frontier and the 1980s, the conceptions of masculinity of both the imperialist frontiersmen and the yuppies of the 80s were defined using "military ideals" (Rotundo 235). In Jay McInerney's novel Bright Lights, Big City (1984) and Bret Easton Ellis's novel American Psycho (1992), we see one male character who fails to live up to yuppie ideals of masculinity and one male character who emerges as the embodiment of those ideals and conquers the new urban frontier.

http://louisianadigitallibrary.org/islandora/object/uno-p15140coll7:126



It is the establishment that now sees the hipster as the embodiment of autonomous, small-scale capitalist expansionism. But it is not just the hipster cast in this role. Artists are the neoliberal state’s troops. Artists make the first move into post-industrial, post-welfare state wastelands like brownfield sites and council housing estates and sow the seeds of cultural capital. They attract hipsters before, eventually, being displaced by them and their new middle-class neighbours. Both the artists and (some) of the hipsters – the ones who haven’t “settled” yet – will move on, exploring, breaking away (again), developing new potential sites for capital “investment”. And so the cycle of gentrification starts over again.
Hipsters and artists are the gentrifying foot soldiers of capitalism | Stephen Pritchard



I learned a lot about this in my property law class. Thanks Prof. McDougall. .
 

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Will the suburbs that blacc ppl get pushed out to eventually have the same culture and flavor as historical blacc neighborhoods in the inner city?


Like can there be a Harlem, Southside Chicago, South central type neighborhoods forming in the suburbs

Or can these types of neighborhoods only be made in big cities
 

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Unfortunately when you don't own property you can be displaced. Even if you do own it, alot of these areas have seniors that are dying and the kids dont want to pay taxes or the upkeep because they dont have the money. Economics is the biggest factor. Whites have disposable income. Even the working class ones. They dont mind slumming it and putting up with the occasional break in or crackhead. In a few years they will double their investment and have a pioneer status in the lily white gentrified community.
 

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Will the suburbs that blacc ppl get pushed out to eventually have the same culture and flavor as historical blacc neighborhoods in the inner city?


Like can there be a Harlem, Southside Chicago, South central type neighborhoods forming in the suburbs

Or can these types of neighborhoods only be made in big cities
Thats a good question:jbhmm:
 

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the other day i had a thought about this in terms neocolonialism. ive had that thought before but you always see these old decrepit suburban white folks visiting their kids just loving the restaurants and the "culture", and i see it as one of the reasons they support the system of white supremacy. it allows them to financially assist their offspring to continue their parasitic, thieving legacy. The good majority of these implants are being at least partially funded by their parents, and to me they obviously enable them for their interests as a race.

its also blatantly obvious that the law enforcements main objective is to protect whites. ive seen neighborhoods go from shootings in broad daylight to cacs walking around at night carefree. they set up police posts on certain corners yet at one point in time they orchestrated those very neighborhoods to carry out black genocide in the form of drugs, murder, and mass incarceration.
 
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