so you a superhero.... its the civil war who do you side with

which side are you taking

  • Tony's side

    Votes: 5 17.9%
  • Cap's side

    Votes: 23 82.1%

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link me to the details of this civil war :lupe:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(comics)

Cliff notes and spoilers

There were a series of events that include:
  • A kree vs skrull war
  • Hulk 'hulking up' and killing thousands in las vegas
  • Nitro, a mutant whos powers are essentially exploding himself, killed a school yard full of infants
  • The core avengers breaking up and going underground as an less organized crew
Cause a growing sentiment that superhumans need to be nationally and worldwide organized, and the US should require superhumans to register as essentially weapons of mass destruction. They then would in theory be trained by the us government as part of a 50-states- initiative making a superhuman police force.

Many heroes and villians of course oppose this as it involves showing you secret identity and working for the government, and causes a rift world wide. That is led by captain american on the resistance and tony stark on the registration side. Stark basically becomes the top cop in america. Heroes and villians that dont register get hunted down. He gets spiderman to reveal his identity and he creates a clone of thor to fight for his side.

It ends when captain america is killed and (somewhat unrelated) spiderman's aunt may is killed and the benefactors are norman osborne who basically eats everything off of stark enterprises' plate.
 

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(comics)

Cliff notes and spoilers

There were a series of events that include:
  • A kree vs skrull war
  • Hulk 'hulking up' and killing thousands in las vegas
  • Nitro, a mutant whos powers are essentially exploding himself, killed a school yard full of infants
  • The core avengers breaking up and going underground as an less organized crew
Cause a growing sentiment that superhumans need to be nationally and worldwide organized, and the US should require superhumans to register as essentially weapons of mass destruction. They then would in theory be trained by the us government as part of a 50-states- initiative making a superhuman police force.

Many heroes and villians of course oppose this as it involves showing you secret identity and working for the government, and causes a rift world wide. That is led by captain american on the resistance and tony stark on the registration side. Stark basically becomes the top cop in america. Heroes and villians that dont register get hunted down. He gets spiderman to reveal his identity and he creates a clone of thor to fight for his side.

It ends when captain america is killed and (somewhat unrelated) spiderman's aunt may is killed and the benefactors are norman osborne who basically eats everything off of stark enterprises' plate.

Can you explain why Captain America would be against? What was his rationale? Would/couldn't we consider him the first registered weapon of mass destruction?
 

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Can you explain why Captain America would be against? What was his rationale? Would/couldn't we consider him the first registered weapon of mass destruction?
part of the deal was hunt!n down & arrest!n the heroes that wouldnt g!ve up the!r !dent!t!es to the government & cap wasnt down w!t treat!n h!s fr!ends l!ke cr!m!nals.. he felt l!ke they put they l!fe on the l!ne for good & deserved better... they told cap he had to arrest them anyways but he wasnt hav!n !t & jumped sh!p...
 

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part of the deal was hunt!n down & arrest!n the heroes that wouldnt g!ve up the!r !dent!t!es to the government & cap wasnt down w!t treat!n h!s fr!ends l!ke cr!m!nals.. he felt l!ke they put they l!fe on the l!ne for good & deserved better... they told cap he had to arrest them anyways but he wasnt hav!n !t & jumped sh!p...

:heh:

so the government was afraid that good superheroes(and bad) would go rogue and fukk everything up….

so they profiled said superheroes and forced them to comply or else….

thus making the good superheroes go rogue and creating the situation they had aimed to prevent….

believable concept….that's just international politics
 

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:heh:

so the government was afraid that good superheroes(and bad) would go rogue and fukk everything up….

so they profiled said superheroes and forced them to comply or else….

thus making the good superheroes go rogue and creating the situation they had aimed to prevent….

believable concept….that's just international politics
mostly... the new warr!ors tried to f!ght cr!me on a real!ty show & !t ended up w!t n!tro blow!n up a school..... they wasnt really worr!ed about heroes go!n rogue they wanted them regulated like cops...

they was l!ke you need to reg!ster, go on the pay roll & get a l!cense to be a hero... :comeon:
 

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on another note the humans in the marvel universe are very weird with there prejudices. They hate mutants but like super heros. :manny: That always struck me as odd.
 
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part of the deal was hunt!n down & arrest!n the heroes that wouldnt g!ve up the!r !dent!t!es to the government & cap wasnt down w!t treat!n h!s fr!ends l!ke cr!m!nals.. he felt l!ke they put they l!fe on the l!ne for good & deserved better... they told cap he had to arrest them anyways but he wasnt hav!n !t & jumped sh!p...

:heh:

so the government was afraid that good superheroes(and bad) would go rogue and fukk everything up….

so they profiled said superheroes and forced them to comply or else….

thus making the good superheroes go rogue and creating the situation they had aimed to prevent….

believable concept….that's just international politics
Yes, but it felt very similar to nazi germany and the jews which steve rogers lived through and died for...thats the core thing he couldnt jive with


and to your last point...the fact that it was simple international politics was tony starks point to those he spoke to. There was a subplot called "new avengers illuminati" which was a kabal of starks, reed richards, namor, blackbolt, dr strange and professor x who basically discussed MAJOR shyt going on from avengers dissasembled to the end of secret invasion (awesome read btw). Tony basically told them "this WILL happen...get on board now".
 
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on another note the humans in the marvel universe are very weird with there prejudices. They hate mutants but like super heros. :manny: That always struck me as odd.
Yeah but word to @R=G, civil war proved that magneto was right and humanity would turn on or use superhumans too. They were first registering them all...then hunting them...what was next?
 

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There was this dope book called Civil War: War Crimes...Kingpin and Cap played Tony like a complete sucker in that. 5 stars.
 

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The thing is government wanted Mutants/Meta-Humans to work for them, not with them which is what the JLA's been doing. And that's fine.
 

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The thing is government wanted Mutants/Meta-Humans to work for them, not with them which is what the JLA's been doing. And that's fine.

yeah but in the DC universe humans are more paranoid about aliens.
 
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