Social media isnt the problem, smartphones are.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

2009 nightlife was not dead wtf
Was the booming era
Nobody was streaming back then
Your way off

Look at clubbing between 70s - 2024.

Let's say 2009 clubbing was booming like you said, what factors led to a decline?? Are you really saying smartphones didnt have a major hand in the decline and eventual death of clubs?


Smartphones introduced live streaming which introduced clout, bottle service, etc.

 

[re'up]

2009:

A lot of people didn't have IPhones yet and the design and USER INTERFACE made social media and apps natural for it, in a way that Blackberry and other phones weren't. Think about trying to scroll social media on a top of the line 2009 phone that was a smartphone, but wasn't an IPhone. It was clumsy. The internet was slow. The screen didn't lend itself to scrolling. it had fukking buttons not a screen.

IPHONE was kind of more expensive and people were hesitant, it was a transitional period. It wasn't the full status symbol it is now, but I would say but 2010-2012 around the rise of instgram, it became one

There's no reason to make it an either/or argument, that itself is some social media shyt. Both parts are essential.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

2009:

A lot of people didn't have IPhones yet and the design and USER INTERFACE made social media and apps natural for it, in a way that Blackberry and other phones weren't. Think about trying to scroll social media on a top of the line 2009 phone that was a smartphone, but wasn't an IPhone. It was clumsy. The internet was slow. The screen didn't lend itself to scrolling. it had fukking buttons not a screen.

IPHONE was kind of more expensive and people were hesitant, it was a transitional period. It wasn't the full status symbol it is now, but I would say but 2010-2012 around the rise of instgram, it became one

There's no reason to make it an either/or argument, that itself is some social media shyt. Both parts are essential.

But without smartphones you had no choice but to sit at home on the computer.

 

[re'up]

Here's the hard truth

You aren't important. You will be forgotten in ten years.

Your existence is meaningless. You will be nothing more than a usurper of resources.

Existential malaise is an inherent quality of life. You cannot run away from it.

All hobbies...phone included mask your true spirit through obfuscation.

Put the phone down and come to terms with the above

while this is too nihilistic for me, the idea that what social media gives people is the idea that they matter (more than they do) is an integral part of it's appeal. it validates your life. it streamlines all of that existential dread about life's inherent messiness into a a digital grading system.

I am liked therefore I am alive.

 

[re'up]

But without smartphones you had no choice but to sit at home on the computer.

you are 100% right. Was reading this book called The Nineties this week and it discusses that shift in a different way, but basically the idea that people moved from being online and annymous (like we are still) to online with their actual real name and face, which brought it away from the kind of nerds that everyone thought "online people" were.

and at least partly that whole idea that being online meant sitting home at a computer means it was "nerdy", or socially undesriable. Once you got around that, it turns out people wanted to interact digitally and create their whole characters online.

Posting on forums like this was a precursor to social media, but the annonymous part plus the idea that we mostly talk about subjects, as opposed to our day to day lives, complete with avatars and alter egos. Smartphones took that into the real world.

We basically showcase a form of our identity, I remember answering questions for some other rap profile 20 years ago, favorite producers (Kanye and Just!) age, favorite rappers (Nas and Jay-Z)

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Look at clubbing between 70s - 2024.

Let's say 2009 clubbing was booming like you said, what factors led to a decline?? Are you really saying smartphones didnt have a major hand in the decline and eventual death of clubs?


Smartphones introduced live streaming which introduced clout, bottle service, etc.

Ask any coli promoters from that year
2009 was peak club years

The decline came when social media apps gained traction around 2016

if you had a smart phone in 2006, you can only use it for taking a pic/text and call.
Some had wifi capabilities

Also Nokia phones in 2004 had Aim messenger

 

[Roger king]

Its not about being a problem its about having self discipline and applying self restraint, social media and smart phones have given billions of people a voice who would have never had it and for that it is a good thing in excess it can be poison

 

[The Pledge]

Smartphones didn’t introduce the engagement design philosophies, social media (Facebook) started that shyt back in 2009 when they added the Like button for potential coercion.



Doesn’t matter how it started though. The source of the problem now is social media, no question.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Ask any coli promoters from that year
2009 was peak club years

The decline came when social media apps gained traction around 2016

if you had a smart phone in 2006, you can only use it for taking a pic/text and call.
Some had wifi capabilities

Also Nokia phones in 2004 had Aim messenger

Social media apps via smartphone. nikkas wasn't lugging in laptops and desktops



So you admit smartphones had a major hand? Sure clubs was popping in '09 but it started dying out because of social media apps in the palm of our hands.

What other factors were there? Can't blame covid because that was in 2019 and people didn't give 2 shyts about covid

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Yall gotta remember


Myspace came out in 2003. Facebook came in 2004. Twitter in 2006. There was no real problems amongst society. Only until smartphones came did things shift for the worst. A slow and eventual decline

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Social media apps via smartphone. nikkas wasn't lugging in laptops and desktops



So you admit smartphones had a major hand? Sure clubs was popping in '09 but it started dying out because of social media apps in the palm of our hands.

What other factors were there? Can't blame covid because that was in 2019 and people didn't give 2 shyts about covid

We always had smartphones back in 06 05
iPhone 4 came out late 2009


Instagram/snapchat/tinder changed everything

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

We always had smartphones back in 06 05
iPhone 4 came out late 2009


Instagram/snapchat/tinder changed everything

Were you able to access those apps on smartphone back in 05, 06?


I mean what else could have caused the decline in everything outside of smartphones?

 

[maxamusa]

I can't imagine life without a smartphone.

I don't even know how I did what I did


OP I go out and mingle with strangers all the time....sounds like a personal problem

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Everybody does ignore everybody in public.

If you can hold eye contact and string some sentences you're damn near like the obe eyed man in the blind kingdom. Yeah it's that bad!

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Were you able to access those apps on smartphone back in 05, 06?


I mean what else could have caused the decline in everything outside of smartphones?

Remove all the social media apps on the iPhone 15pro and notice the difference
The way these platforms are designed, they want more people to stay online. They want you to live on these platforms

It’s the apps not the smartphones