Socialism at work - California reviewing whether to tax citizens for texting

[Perfectson]

Yahoo is now part of Oath


Would yall be for this , the tax would help replenish coffers that have decreased as more people shift away from traditional land lines

 

[Secure Da Bag]

That's not socialism. That's terrible policy.

There's no need to fabricate issues. I'm sure you can find legitimate arguments against socialism. This one ain't it though.

Plus, all anyone is gonna ask is this: why haven't you legalized weed and hemp yet?

 

[Perfectson]

That's not socialism. That's terrible policy.

There's no need to fabricate issues. I'm sure you can find legitimate arguments against socialism. This one ain't it though.

Plus, all anyone is gonna ask is this: why haven't you legalized weed and hemp yet?

It's a tax on a service that will be used to help poor people...making telecommunications more accessible for them.

 

[the cac mamba]

liberals

 

[newworldafro]

Just waiting for breathing tax for California, but your oxygen credits.....

 

[Pressure]

Now merely paying taxes is socialism?

 

[88m3]

Now merely paying taxes is socialism?

taxation is theft


reeeee

 

[the cac mamba]

taxation is theft

not so fast :jayfdup: where do you think the money to underfund california's public employee pensions comes from

 

[MenacingMonk]

Heard this today on the radio, immediately hit the

fukkin greedy ass state I live in.

 

[DEAD7]

 

[GPBear]

I feel like taxing people to communicate is a basic violation of the 1st amendment.

 

[88m3]

I feel like taxing people to communicate is a basic violation of the 1st amendment.

Not giving the poor access to communicate is good somehow then? That is how you respect the 1st amendment? Funding access so that the poor can communicate by phones and the internet is a basic violation of the 1st amendment. Got it.

fukking amazing you guys are. Enjoy your class warfare against the poor and working class while you can.

 

[Don Homer]

so we're not gonna tax the companies more? tax the people instead?

 

[Pressure]

Thread actually shows more of how corruption and the corporate lobby has and continues to allow large corporations to avoid taxes on services by classifying them as something else.

In this case text messages have been able to avoid these taxes because they've been classified as information services (similar to web browsing) as opposed to communication services (e.g. The phone calls they've ultimately replaced).


HL is slowing turning into TLR.

 

[hashmander]

i got to give you right wingers props. you don't come out and say "why is the govt charging universal service fees that they then redirect to providing low income people with access to telecommunication services?" that might sound too on a site like this. so it's framed as something else. if the universal fee only applies to calls and people make less calls then the money to provide low income people with access has to come from somewhere or just cut their access. that's what you should come straight out and argue. say it with me "fukk them" you lifted yourself up and pay your unsubsidized phone bill and they should too.

like everything you all hate about america, it was instituted in the 30's and is "socialism". keep calling everything socialism that even offers a tiny bit of help to poor people and they'll soon start to realize that maybe socialism isn't so bad if this is what it is.