Sohh are we watching the Michael Jackson documentary tonight? (basically Surviving Michael Jackson)

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My overall posture here leans toward: I can't look past his behavior as if its totally innocent. Just from what we can see its an abnormal amount of contact with totally strange children

It has always seemed reasonable to me that he was stuck in a childlike mindframe.

Never had to develop past the selfish toddler stage. Always had basically anything he wanted at his fingertips all his life. You feed a baby every time it cries for food. But later children have to eat at certain times. Eventually no one brings you food at all. You have to secure your own.

MJ's development in this column is the same as a 1 year old. Just point and whimper and they hand you whatever you want.

No HS prom, no first job out of college, no beef with school bully, none of the stuff that makes you grow into a man. No struggle (well, like 'next meal' type shyt).

Plus, having basically missed out on that playful life that most young children have until they hit double digits: he never got past that playful phase. It took me til I was over 21 to stop buying legos and shyt. But if his true childhood was taken up with grown up shyt, then I could see him always pining for that.. something like that...

But Breh. I listened to the audio of that HBO joint long enough to fry a few eggs and I am still kind of haunted by what duke was describing. I realize that I may be listening to fiction but shyt just sounds heavy.

Still about where I was the whole time, tho. And in this case the investigation turned out in MJs favor long ago. So basically from the scientific perspective the evidence has been examined already
 

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its not semantics, massive has a very different connotation than numerous, so its shows you were deliberately lying




its one book, out of a huge book collection

then you go on to say



this is what the article says



your post is an example of what people in the media try to do, they try to distort and exaggerate facts to fit a false narrative
You're deliberately lying by originally suggesting what i said is false

It's facts he had a gigantic porn library

It's facts that he had lots of homosexual porn

It's facts that he had a large amount of books that contained naked pictures of children in his home. Not one like you're trying to suggest. One book had the faces of children superimposed over adult bodies. That's where you're confused



The original quote that i responded to made it sound like he had a couple copies of playboy.

The reality is far more disturbing.

I didn't watch the documentary and i can't say with certainty that he sexually abused these kids.

I'd lean towards thinking that he quite obviously was a pedo, but i have no clue on if he acted on it.
 
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Had to take a 24-hour break after watching that demonic piece of work yesterday.

Demonic meaning if those individuals are lying on a dead man like that :scusthov:or if it is true, Mike was a sick sick man:scust:.

Not gonna lie, His behavior described in the documentary had the hallmarks of a pedo, charming the parents to being oblivous, had the victims hate their parents and constant contact with the victims even into their adult years like he owned them.

I gotta say that documentary was compelling.
But Not 100 percent certain Mike did it or not:hubie:.

But at the end of the day, anything short of video evidence would always leave this open to speculation.

That aside, We should be able to separate the man from the art or the work. I dont know why we conflate the two.

But then again, Pedophilia is a mental disorder so people like R Kelly or MJ may be musical savants because of the disorder. We have no idea how the human brain fully works. A defect here could be the cause exceptionalism in another spot.

I still say the work should be seperate from the man.
 
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You're deliberately lying by originally suggesting what i said is false

It's facts he had a gigantic porn library

It's facts that he had lots of homosexual porn

It's facts that he had a large amount of books that contained naked pictures of children in his home. Not one like you're trying to suggest. One book had the faces of children superimposed over adult bodies. That's where you're confused



The original quote that i responded to made it sound like he had a couple copies of playboy.

The reality is far more disturbing.

I didn't watch the documentary and i can't say with certainty that he sexually abused these kids.

I'd lean towards thinking that he quite obviously was a pedo, but i have no clue on if he acted on it.

so we went from "massive" to "numerous" and now we are back to "gigantic", "lots" and "large amount"

what is your source for this information?
 

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You're deliberately lying by originally suggesting what i said is false

It's facts he had a gigantic porn library

It's facts that he had lots of homosexual porn

It's facts that he had a large amount of books that contained naked pictures of children in his home. Not one like you're trying to suggest. One book had the faces of children superimposed over adult bodies. That's where you're confused



The original quote that i responded to made it sound like he had a couple copies of playboy.

The reality is far more disturbing.

I didn't watch the documentary and i can't say with certainty that he sexually abused these kids.

I'd lean towards thinking that he quite obviously was a pedo, but i have no clue on if he acted on it.
Now you're just making up shyt
Confront your abuser
Get therapy
 

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If it was sexualized it would be child porn and he would be charged. It wouldn't be sold as a book in a store.

Breath idiot... Your brain needs oxygen

:duck:
I mean this is confirmed. Im not even sure what your argument is beyond "im upset about this and dont like it"

Bring an argument. Receipts have already been provided
Now you're just making up shyt
Confront your abuser
Get therapy
What did i make up?

I already said i dont know if he molested anybody and i didn't see the documentary

Im just speaking on the documented facts about his extremely large and extremely weird porn and naked child pic collection
 

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He had massive amounts of "art" books that were filled with naked children and depicting children in sexual ways.

He had books that were basically porn but with childrens faces superimposed over the adults faces

He had extensive homosexual porn libraries too

You're deliberately lying by originally suggesting what i said is false

It's facts he had a gigantic porn library

It's facts that he had lots of homosexual porn

It's facts that he had a large amount of books that contained naked pictures of children in his home. Not one like you're trying to suggest. One book had the faces of children superimposed over adult bodies. That's where you're confused

The original quote that i responded to made it sound like he had a couple copies of playboy.

The reality is far more disturbing.

I didn't watch the documentary and i can't say with certainty that he sexually abused these kids.

I'd lean towards thinking that he quite obviously was a pedo, but i have no clue on if he acted on it.


Would you buy several books full of naked children that depicts them in a sexualized manner?

^^^ pay attention. I'm about to show you how easy it is to destroy people that believe MJ is a pedophile with one very simple question

CAN YOU PROVE EVERYTHING IN BOLD RED LETTERING INDIVIDUALLY?

that's it...LOL. now this dude is going to respond with anger, jokes, call me all types of names, basically have an emotional outburst

but what he won't do, is provide actual links that say MJ had "GAY" porn in his home, or that he had photos of children doing anything sexual in his home.

he's taking locker room and water cooler jokes and presenting them as fact.

this is how the DA lost the case in 2005, they tried to play the strongly suggested card and it failed...in a court of law, you have to PROVE things.
 

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^^^ pay attention. I'm about to show you how easy it is to destroy people that believe MJ is a pedophile with one very simple question

CAN YOU PROVE EVERYTHING IN BOLD RED LETTERING INDIVIDUALLY?

that's it...LOL. now this dude is going to respond with anger, jokes, call me all types of names, basically have an emotional outburst

but what he won't do, is provide actual links that say MJ had "GAY" porn in his home, or that he had photos of children doing anything sexual in his home.

he's taking locker room and water cooler jokes and presenting them as fact.

this is how the DA lost the case in 2005, they tried to play the strongly suggested card and it failed...in a court of law, you have to PROVE things.
Never said he was guilty of the crimes he was accused of

For the 100th time i was replying to someone saying he didn't have much porn. Its documented that that isn't true

And yes i already showed the receipts. Feel free to scroll back through and see the links and quotes
 

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If it was sexualized it would be child porn and he would be charged. It wouldn't be sold as a book in a store.

Breath idiot... Your brain needs oxygen

:duck:

he ran up in here having an emotional outburst acting like he just cracked the greatest case of the 20th and 21st century
 
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