Sohh why is the nuclear family held up as the "gold standard" or natural order when its a recent invention?

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

you still having articulated a point as to why you believe a multigenerational family living in close proximity with each other is unnatural and why.

That isn't my point.​

versus the current standard of each generation living indepently of each other

That is the basis of the 'family' in primates and other mammals.....

Human origins and the transition from promiscuity to pair-bonding - PMC

A crucial step in recent theories of human origins is the emergence of strong pair-bonding between males and females accompanied by a dramatic reduction in the male-to-male conflict over mating and an increased investment in offspring. How such a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Luke Cage]

That isn't my point.

That is the basis of the 'family' in primates and other mammals.....

Human origins and the transition from promiscuity to pair-bonding - PMC

A crucial step in recent theories of human origins is the emergence of strong pair-bonding between males and females accompanied by a dramatic reduction in the male-to-male conflict over mating and an increased investment in offspring. How such a ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

No it isn't. plenty of animals live and raise their young in packs or communal by nature. Not sure why you posted a link about promiscuity.
but i get it, if this isn't the point your are trying to make, thats fine. Just seems like the point you are making isn't actually relevant to the thread discussion.

 

[Genos]

Google is your friend

The History of 'Nuclear Family'

Getting at the core of it.

www.merriam-webster.com

OK so it has nothing to do with the atom, now it makes sense

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

No it isn't. plenty of animals live and raise their young in packs or communal by nature. Not sure why you posted a link about promiscuity.

None of those other animals completely dominate this planet like humans do so that doesn't disprove anything stated. The link wasn't just 'about promiscuity'.​

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

OK so it has nothing to do with the atom, now it makes sense

damn you're lazy

 

[Wildin]

My white coworkers mom goes into a nursing the week after Thanksgiving. It's like 5k a month. I asked him why doesnt he gave her love with him and his kids, her grandkids then he doesn't necessarily even have to pay 900 a month for daycare and he literally said " I can't stand her and the way she treated me when I was a teenager before I moved out, she needs to be on her own. Our relationship is better, in still getting money in her will, her and the kids are great but I wouldn't be able to stand having her in my house."

Meanwhile me and and Hispanic guy was like .

Id never put my parents in a nursing home. Mexican dude said if he ever tried his mom would probably kill him and herself.

It's not about even being able to afford to part with your family. You have generations of knowledge, family right there and you just push that away. I guess a lot of people don't have that.

Hell me and my pops aren't talking right now, but my brothers nor I would ever let him go to a nursing home.

Cacs have this picture perfect image of just them in the house and eventually kicking their kids out. That's a white culture thing. If your parents own a house it doesn't even financially make sense to be on your own if you don't want to. You can go to college or even work a full time job and save your checks 1-3 years to come up with 40k to put down on a house. No debt, no bullshyt.
.

 

[number21]

Pro blackity black simp babble. You nikkas are food.

 

[maxamusa]

You right. Alas my pullout game and raincoat do me too well

Hold up; you don't even have kids

 

[boskey]

If you want to move your grandmother, aunt, cousins and best friends in to help you raise your kids there is nothing stopping you. And nobody has ever been looked down on for having a close knit extended family vs the "traditional" nuclear family

This is a fake issue for people looking for a debate or an excuse

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

If you want to move your grandmother, aunt, cousins and best friends in to help you raise your kids there is nothing stopping you. And nobody has ever been looked down on for having a close knit extended family vs the "traditional" nuclear family

This is a fake issue for people looking for a debate or an excuse

You say that like we don't promote individualism. You can't build extended family when everyone is off in their little corner of the universe.

Ya'll stay trying to simplify complex social problems.

 

[boskey]

You say that like we don't promote individualism. You can't build extended family when everyone is off in their little corner of the universe.

Ya'll stay trying to simplify complex social problems.

Respectfully, this is a non issue in my opinion. The "decline in the nuclear family" is just code for "deadbeat dads not raising their kids" it's never been a criticism of having too much extended family.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Respectfully, this is a non issue in my opinion. The "decline in the nuclear family" is just code for "deadbeat dads not raising their kids" it's never been a criticism of having too much extended family.

The thread is discussing why a nuclear family is held up as a cultural ideal when it's not effective on a wide scale. People asked for alternatives and extended family groups is presented as the solution to some.

The thread is not about if you can have an extended family. It's about why the individualism/ isolation of a nuclear family is so desired.

 

[Genos]

damn you're lazy

This is from what you just posted

That meaning of nucleus is the source of most of the nuclear compound terms we have today, which typically relate to the nucleus of an atom—for example, nuclear membrane—or to the energy that is created when the nuclei of atoms are split apart or joined together—nuclear energy, nuclear fission, nuclear reactor. But the word nucleus didn't start referring in any concrete sense to atomic nuclei until the early part of the 20th century; for the preceding decades that meaning was a speculative one, based on unconfirmed ideas about atoms. Nuclear as we now most often encounter it is very much a child of the second half of the 20th century. At the time of Malinowski's coinage, the idea of atomic nuclei as actual entities was nascent.


The nuclear in nuclear family is figurative, and it comes from an extension of those varied scientific applications of nucleus. In addition to the astronomy, botany, and other technical applications, nucleus has also since the mid-18th century meant simply "a basic or essential part," with many examples of the term describing people considered core to some organization or effort. In coining nuclear family, Malinowski was hitching a sensible descriptor to the word family to create what is now one of our basic familial designators. No one could have known at the time that that

descriptor would go nuclear

I hate on this website when people smugly post articles they didn't read themselves. From what you posted, the term nuclear had many meanings before it's meaning in atomics and the nuclear in nuclear family comes from those other meanings. I was confused because I was just studying nuclear chemistry last semester, and it didn't make sense from what I studying.

 

[maxamusa]

If you want to move your grandmother, aunt, cousins and best friends in to help you raise your kids there is nothing stopping you. And nobody has ever been looked down on for having a close knit extended family vs the "traditional" nuclear family

This is a fake issue for people looking for a debate or an excuse

Facts....brehs in here talking about they live with their girlfriend and have the audacity to have a stance on something real.

Like you gonna take care of anybody but yourself

 

[ISO]

Why do people think nuclear family means you don’t see your cousins, uncles, aunts, grandparents and that others like extended fam, coaches, teachers, pastors, friends, etc. won’t have an impact.

It’s still a village raising a child even in a nuclear family.