Somalian immigrant communities in Minnesota ALLEGEDLY funnel billions of Medicaid dollars back to terrorist cells in Somalia.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

This is why I say Walz needs to drop the hammer on these fraudulent elements.

Sounds like FBI/IRS etc were asleep at the wheel

Bad actors should be dealt with harshly

It’s pretty clear this is being done for political reasons however and that doesn’t sit well with me

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Sounds like FBI/IRS etc were asleep at the wheel

This is what I keep saying. You can’t give maga or trump room to exploit this stuff. You have to take care of your backyard first and provide and demonstrate model government and executive capacity. This is a disaster.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

This is what I keep saying. You can’t give maga or trump room to exploit this stuff. You have to take care of your backyard first and provide and demonstrate model government and executive capacity. This is a disaster.

Waltz isn’t the head of the fbi/irs and trying to scapegoat him for this really misses the mark

We’re talking about federal funds

I’ve always gotten the sense that federal agencies don’t operate well/full tilt in the south/mid west/red states by design or whatever idk

This wouldn’t fly in the north east

Insurance fraud is a problem everywhere and an issue in itself

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

At least 2 of the accounts in the op are white supremacists so I can’t put a lot of stock in what they have to say either

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

This is what I keep saying. You can’t give maga or trump room to exploit this stuff. You have to take care of your backyard first and provide and demonstrate model government and executive capacity. This is a disaster.

If you're actually talking about fraud and not Rufo's garbage terrorism spin, then the only "disaster" here is how easily people adopt GOP talking points. Fraud happens everywhere, in red and blue states alike, and Minnesota is prosecuting it, which is what good oversight looks like. Calling it a political catastrophe is just internalizing right-wing narratives about Democrats needing to be perfect while Republicans can openly fukk shyt up and then get pardoned.

Rick Scott oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in US history and doesn't catch any real flack for it..

Ken Paxton committed fraud and was shielded by Greg Abbot and Texas Republicans and they don't catch any flack for that.

Abbot and Paxton refused to investigate massive Republican-led PPP contract fraud. They did nothing about massive misuse of COVID funds, either.

Trump oversaw massive PPP fraud, and nothing happened to him - no narrative.

How come the argument is never "Republicans have to run a model government or they're giving Democrats ammo"?

It's happened all across red states with Republican mayors, governors, senators, and appointees, but there's never a call to impose these unrealistic standards on them.

Oversight is working here and these fraudsters are being prosecuted. Republicans don't even get pressed to do this, and face no narratives or consequences for it.

How does this make sense? Why shouldn't we push back against this king of weaponization? Explain it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you're actually talking about fraud and not Rufo's garbage terrorism spin, then the only "disaster" here is how easily people adopt GOP talking points

Right. So, now its just “hallucinations of fraud”

Son, do you ever advocate for accountability?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

At least 2 of the accounts in the op are white supremacists so I can’t put a lot of stock in what they have to say either

You dont need Rufo to run this down. Local media and literal federal indictments are connecting the dots. Its over. You dont need to look for an “out” here by downplaying this. Walz is under fire.

This is the sort of shyt they think is gonna save them….

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Waltz isn’t the head of the fbi/irs and trying to scapegoat him for this really misses the mark

We’re talking about federal funds

I’ve always gotten the sense that federal agencies don’t operate well/full tilt in the south/mid west/red states by design or whatever idk

This wouldn’t fly in the north east

Insurance fraud is a problem everywhere and an issue in itself

Theres reporting that Walz was warned about these fraud networks for years but chose to downplay offending the Somali community. This isn’t insurance fraud. This is WELFARE fraud from the state programs.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Right. So, now its just “hallucinations of fraud”

Son, do you ever advocate for accountability?

You quoted one sentence and skipped the entire argument. I am actually advocating for accountability EVERYWHERE, not selective outrage -- that's literally the point I made. Minnesota investigated, prosecuted, and convicted people. That's accountability.

What I'm pushing back on is the selective outrage and the idea that Democratic officials must meet a higher standard of perfection while Republicans get to commit far bigger fraud with zero political consequences or narrative damage.

Fraud is real, and oversight is necessary. But if we're going to have a serious conversation about accountability, it has to be applied consistently. Otherwise we're just reinforcing a double standard where GOP failures are ignored and Democratic ones are treated as existential crises.

If you think this specific case is a failure of oversight, explain how Minnesota prosecuting the fraudsters is worse than Republicans in Texas, Florida, or DC doing nothing at all when fraud happens under them.

Now, can you actually engage with my argument, not deliberately misrepresent it? You can also admit that you don't know how to read or comprehend.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You quoted one sentence and skipped the entire argument. I am actually advocating for accountability EVERYWHERE, not selective outrage -- that's literally the point I made. Minnesota investigated, prosecuted, and convicted people. That's accountability.

What I'm pushing back on is the selective outrage and the idea that Democratic officials must meet a higher standard of perfection while Republicans get to commit far bigger fraud with zero political consequences or narrative damage.

Fraud is real, and oversight is necessary. But if we're going to have a serious conversation about accountability, it has to be applied consistently. Otherwise we're just reinforcing a double standard where GOP failures are ignored and Democratic ones are treated as existential crises.

If you think this specific case is a failure of oversight, explain how Minnesota prosecuting the fraudsters is worse than Republicans in Texas, Florida, or DC doing nothing at all when fraud happens under them.

Now, can you actually engage with my argument, not deliberately misrepresent it? You can also admit that you don't know how to read or comprehend.

Democrats have to actually demonstrate the capacity to not defend this shyt. Walz already took this point from you. Even Zohran is moderating. You dont have to defend failing standards of conduct just to stick it to Trump.

Democrats have to actually be better because voters respect competence and not virtue signaling over protecting minorities who themselves are engaged or connected to fraud. It speaks to how highly you think we are capable of behaving, as a black male personally. It’s degrading and belittling.

I dont care what red states are doing. I dont want democrats to create low hanging fruit for republicans to exploit during a Trump administration. Period.

WALZ IS RUNNING FOR REELECTION.


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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Whether its your illogical defense of trans issues to falling on the sword for remittance fraud and possible terror funding, you need to reassess your default allyship as a function of some sort of third-wordlist anti-imperialist post-modern agent of chaos under some generic banner of leftism…instead of as a useful fukking idiot. You’re not dumb, you’re just a bleeding heart that keeps getting hoed. How old are you?

@Pull Up the Roots

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

gobbledygook

Democrats will never win under the "standard" you're pushing because perfection doesn't exist. It doesn't exist in people, in programs, in oversight systems, or in governance. There will always be the potential for something to go wrong. So if your argument is that Democrats must be flawless or else Republicans will "exploit it," then you've already kneecapped Democrats before they even begin. You're basically arguing for surrender.

You keep saying "Democrats have to be better" as if Republicans behave in good faith and will leave Democrats alone once some imaginary threshold of purity is met. But Republicans weaponize things even when the facts are false. They invent scandals from thin air. That's what bad actors do. So your solution -- governing in fear of bad-faith attacks -- is just asking Democrats to live as permanent hostages of the GOP.

And this is why I said you're not arguing from any real standard or belief system. You've internalized Republican narratives so deeply that you're policing Democrats harder than Republicans ever police themselves. You ignore GOP corruption completely, you shrug at blatant Republican fraud, and you frame Democratic oversight as a "disaster." You operate completely on vibes and vibes-based panic.

If you genuinely cared about competence, you'd acknowledge that Minnesota did demonstrate competence. They investigated, prosecuted, and convicted fraudsters. That's more than Republicans ever do in their own states when fraud happens under them. But instead, you're treating the existence of accountability as proof of failure, while treating Republican non-accountability as irrelevant.

That double standard is the exact asymmetry the GOP depends on. And the answer to that shouldn't be appeasement, but refusing to let bad actors dictate the narrative in the first place.

And standing up for your constituents in the face of racist and xenophobic attacks from the president isn't "virtue signaling." What's degrading and belittling is scapegoating an entire community.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Whether its your illogical defense of trans issues to falling on the sword for remittance fraud and possible terror funding, you need to reassess your default allyship as a function of some sort of third-wordlist anti-imperialist post-modern agent of chaos under some generic banner of leftism…instead of as a useful fukking idiot. You’re not dumb, you’re just a bleeding heart that keeps getting hoed. How old are you?

@Pull Up the Roots

You're just an empty vessel repeating your radicalized right-wing narratives. You just learned some bullshyt new buzzword from some Manhattan Institute doofus and now you're regurgitating it like it makes you sound informed. It doesn't. It just proves you don't have a single original thought or a real argument of your own.

You don't reason yourself into the positions you hold, and you don't use logic to reinforce them. You just latch onto whatever narrative flatters your biases at the moment, and try to pass it off as insight. You are a very stupid and worthless person.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Democrats will never win under the "standard" you're pushing because perfection doesn't exist. It doesn't exist in people, in programs, in oversight systems, or in governance. There will always be the potential for something to go wrong. So if your argument is that Democrats must be flawless or else Republicans will "exploit it," then you've already kneecapped Democrats before they even begin. You're basically arguing for surrender.

You keep saying "Democrats have to be better" as if Republicans behave in good faith and will leave Democrats alone once some imaginary threshold of purity is met. But Republicans weaponize things even when the facts are false. They invent scandals from thin air. That's what bad actors do. So your solution -- governing in fear of bad-faith attacks -- is just asking Democrats to live as permanent hostages of the GOP.

And this is why I said you're not arguing from any real standard or belief system. You've internalized Republican narratives so deeply that you're policing Democrats harder than Republicans ever police themselves. You ignore GOP corruption completely, you shrug at blatant Republican fraud, and you frame Democratic oversight as a "disaster." You operate completely on vibes and vibes-based panic.

If you genuinely cared about competence, you'd acknowledge that Minnesota did demonstrate competence. They investigated, prosecuted, and convicted fraudsters. That's more than Republicans ever do in their own states when fraud happens under them. But instead, you're treating the existence of accountability as proof of failure, while treating Republican non-accountability as irrelevant.

That double standard is the exact asymmetry the GOP depends on. And the answer to that shouldn't be appeasement, but refusing to let bad actors dictate the narrative in the first place.

And standing up for your constituents in the face of racist and xenophobic attacks from the president isn't "virtue signaling." What's degrading and belittling is scapegoating an entire community.

I dont give a shyt how republicans behave. I want democrats to set examples.