Some Liberals do this thing after shootings that is so hypocritical.

[88m3]

Democracy doesn't protect itself haven't you heard . I agree with threadstarter. On this particularly issue I lean red eventhough I'm not a gun owner, because they have the better argument. If they government or some other force(criminals, invading armies, gangs, law enforcement,domestic terrorists, the government, mass murderers) wants to flex on the people for whatever reason, your standard pistol ain't gonna do it. I think the original architects wanted people to be able to defend themselves if the need arises and how can you properly defend yourself if your gear is sub-standard?

People are going to wish they had AR-15's, semi-automatics and grenades. I think people should be able to own any crazy ass gun provided they're fit to own it operate it . It's the consequence that comes with having power, a lot of progressives don't see the bigger picture, and they don't ever think things could get worse, but they're wrong and things can get a lot worse. I'll take Sandy Hooks to a situation where the government is seizing everyones guns and forcing them into camps.
The people who want to do destruction are going to do destruction gun control or no gun control. The people who are sitting up here talking about gun control are obviously not the people we should be worried about.

Have you read about REX-84? They've got concentration camps all over the country.

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

Have you read about REX-84?

I generally don't like to read about that type of thing because it's depressing, but it's about government response to a martial law situation. I'm not a big conspiracy theorist but I do think anything is possible.

 

[daze23]

Being able to defend yourself doesn't mean you'll always win, it just means you can at least mount some kind of resistance. I think a situation where no one had arms is insane. If David Duke or someone crazy came into office tomorrow and wanted to re institute slavery, I'm either going taliban or flying the coup.

my point was that an 'assault rifle' is gonna be just as ineffective as a pistol against an armored vehicle. well maybe not "just as ineffective", but the question is, is the slight increase in effectiveness worth the other risks that go along with it, when ultimately the 'slight increase in effectiveness' maybe irrelevant

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

my point was that an 'assault rifle' is gonna be just as ineffective as a pistol against an armored vehicle. well maybe not "just as ineffective", but the question is, is the slight increase in effectiveness worth the other risks that go along with it, when ultimately the 'slight increase in effectiveness' maybe irrelevant

If it were me, I'd snipe the operators and steal the tank. Pistols shoot like shyt from what I've heard. It's makes all the difference if you're in a situation like that, I still don't quite understand peoples hatred for assault rifles. Assault Rifles are like 1-8% of all gun related deaths. Why shouldn't there be more options? Why does your personal defense stop at hand guns?

 

[The_Sheff]

If it were me, I'd snipe the operators and steal the tank. Pistols shoot like shyt from what I've heard. It's makes all the difference if you're in a situation like that, I still don't quite understand peoples hatred for assault rifles. Assault Rifles are like 1-8% of all gun related deaths. Why shouldn't there be more options? Why does your personal defense stop at hand guns?

There is no evidence that assault rifles help with personal defense.

 

[Brown_Pride]

There is no evidence that assault rifles help with personal defense.

is there any evidence that hand guns do (no troll just curious i've not really seen anything)

 

[daze23]

If it were me, I'd snipe the operators and steal the tank.

you watch too many movies

 

[Brown_Pride]

you watch too many movies

if it were me i'd shove explosive into socks, cover them in axel grease and then use them to blow the treads off the tanks, then assault the tanks all the while a sniper in a tower picks off the ground troops. There'd be a high probability my jewish ammo runner would get knifed in the chest while his biotch made helper watched on. FOr some reason we'd be fighting Germans too. that's just me though.

 

[daze23]

if it were me i'd shove explosive into socks, cover them in axel grease and then use them to blow the treads off the tanks, then assault the tanks all the while a sniper in a tower picks off the ground troops. There'd be a high probability my jewish ammo runner would get knifed in the chest while his biotch made helper watched on. FOr some reason we'd be fighting Germans too. that's just me though.

I'd defeat them with my Ford Pinto

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

There is no evidence that assault rifles help with personal defense.

Step outside your well maintained bubble and I'm sure it helps a lot. I'm sure in some parts of the world having an Assault Rifle at your arms, helps with your personal safety. I think every woman in the Congo should carry an Assault Rifle just in case a nikka would. I'm talking worse case scenario. People have this idea that a hand gun is all you need when that's clearly not always optimal.
Hell if you live in the hood and you're about to be a statistic from a crooked cop , you think a handguns going to save your life or an assault rifle? A handgun can't do shyt if you're firing center mass and he has body armor I'd rather be a cop killer than a dead minority suspect. People are so quick to give up any incline of power just because some people abuse theirs.

 

[88m3]

if it were me i'd shove explosive into socks, cover them in axel grease and then use them to blow the treads off the tanks, then assault the tanks all the while a sniper in a tower picks off the ground troops. There'd be a high probability my jewish ammo runner would get knifed in the chest while his biotch made helper watched on. FOr some reason we'd be fighting Germans too. that's just me though.

seems legit

 

[The_Sheff]

is there any evidence that hand guns do (no troll just curious i've not really seen anything)

Actually most studies show having a handgun in the home doesnt make it more safe at all, in fact it actually increases the chances of one of your family members being shot by said gun.

 

[need213ust]

 

[88m3]

What's wrong bro? Express yourself

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Being able to defend yourself doesn't mean you'll always win, it just means you can at least mount some kind of resistance. I think a situation where no one had arms is insane. If David Duke or someone crazy came into office tomorrow and wanted to re institute slavery, I'm either going taliban or flying the coup.