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the 4th hottest mc in the game can't even move 600 copies a week 10 months later 
Some Of These Rappers Should Pick Up A Guitar... Sales Thread 05/01/13
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300,000 is pretty much the new benchmark come June 1st...
Labels have restructured deals... less money in budgets but less expectations in sales... it's still a shytload of money to make tho...
Labels have restructured deals... less money in budgets but less expectations in sales... it's still a shytload of money to make tho...
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Tuc2DaBoot
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Bruh I been saying this since about 2010... this ain't 1999 anymore they need to go ahead and Silver up nikkas when they hit 250k...
Why we gotta lower standards for these rap nikkas though?
Last I checked, Lumineers, Fun., and Imagine Dragons all dropped debut major albums and are going platinum on these fools.
Why can't these rappers do it?
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Mike Statik
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Looking at some of these rappers' sales these days... all that grinding and it's leading to nothing. Meanwhile, your favorite country or alternative artist is selling units without needing 5 free mixtapes to do it.
Traditional rap music (not this hipster/indie BS) is falling off in the worst way... minus Kendrick and a few others...
Artist / Album / Sold This Week / Total
1 FANTASIA SIDE EFFECTS OF YOU 90.682 - 90.947
2 TIMBERLAKE*JUSTIN 20/20 EXPERIENCE 73.600 - 1.673.150
3 KID CUDI INDICUD 31.593 - 167.298
4 MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS THE HEIST 28.299 - 638.000
5 LIL' WAYNE I AM NOT A HUMAN BEING II 24.989 - 382.777
6 RIHANNA UNAPOLOGETIC 15.373 - 958.608
7 TYGA HOTEL CALIFORNIA 11.505 - 84.429
8 LAMAR*KENDRICK GOOD KID M.A.A.D CITY 10.318 - 868.149
9 TYLER THE CREATOR WOLF 6.045 - 123.205
10 MIGUEL KALEIDOSCOPE DREAM 5.585 - 394.721
13 A$AP ROCKY LONG.LIVE.A$AP 5.101 - 336.612
14 KEYS*ALICIA GIRL ON FIRE 4.981 - 669.343
15 GHOSTFACE KILLAH TWELVE REASONS TO DIE 4.604 - 19.626
16 WHIZ KHALIFA & CURREN$Y LIVE IN CONCERT EP 4.207 -17.503
17 T.I. TROUBLE MAN: HEAVY IS THE HEAD 3.397 - 457.712
17 THE WEEKND TRILOGY 3.397 - 329.870
19 OCEAN*FRANK CHANNEL ORANGE 3.029 - 546.765
20 2 CHAINZ BASED ON A T.R.U STORY 2.735 - 594.408
21 WIZ KHALIFA O.N.I.F.C. 2.598 - 369.967
22 WILSON*CHARLIE LOVE, CHARLIE 2.514 - 133.937
23 CHIEF KEEF FINALLY RICH 2.403 - 167.159
24 FUTURE PLUTO 2.106 - 313.895
25 COLE*KEYSHIA WOMAN TO WOMAN 2.029 - 329.384
27 BEYONCE 4 1.820 -1.333.380
29 MINAJ*NICKI PINK FRIDAY...ROMAN RELOADED 1.670 - 841.303
30 MGK LACE UP 1.605 -170.433
31 STYLES P FLOAT (EX) 1.518 - 5.404
32 MEEK MILL DREAMS & NIGHTMARES 1.506 - 350.584
34 SONGZ*TREY CHAPTER V 1.425 -370.798
35 HAMILTON*ANTHONY BACK TO LOVE 1.372 - 311.146
36 GAME JESUS PIECE 1.298 - 225.110
37 AVANT FACE THE MUSIC 1.283 -48.113
38 BROWN*CHRIS FORTUNE 1.273 -7 447.048
39 JAMES*TRINIDAD DON'T BE S.A.F.E. 1.233 - 29.309
41 N.O.R.E. (AKA P.A.P.I.) STUDENT OF THE GAME 1.215 - 5.308
42 RIHANNA TALK THAT TALK 1.210 - 1.095.681
44 ROSS*RICK GOD FORGIVES I DON'T 1.141 - 533.962
45 MILLER*MAC BLUE SLIDE PARK 1.115 - 393.718
46 MCKNIGHT*BRIAN MORE THAN WORDS 1.091 - 15.322
48 USHER LOOKING 4 MYSELF 1.051 - 475.067
49 BUDDEN*JOE NO LOVE LOST 1.035 - 70.987
50 NE-YO R.E.D 1.016 - 239.028
51 BIG BOI VICIOUS LIES & DANGEROUS RUMOR 993 - 73.998
53 BRADLEY*CHARLES VICTIM OF LOVE 853 - 7.139
54 YOUNG JEEZY TM 103: HUSTLERZ AMBITION 824 - 691.843
55 VARIOUS GOOD MUSIC CRUEL SUMMER 804 - 449.601
56 KELLY*R. WRITE ME BACK 778 -242.411
59 DESTINY'S CHILD PLAYLIST: THE VERY BEST OF DES 734 - 51.079
60 B.O.B STRANGE CLOUDS 731 - 280.327
60 ALLEN*HOODIE ALL AMERICAN 731 -79.060
63 PAPOOSE NACIREMA DREAM 696 - 12.636
64 BLIGE*MARY J. MY LIFE II...THE JOURNEY CONTI 692 - 689.906
65 BRANDY TWO ELEVEN 690 - 181.625
66 CHILDISH GAMBINO CAMP 682 - 225.830
70 TYGA CARELESS WORLD 602 -345.990
Compared to country & rock these days:
1 SHELTON*BLAKE BASED ON A TRUE STORY 35.731 - 421.027
2 THE BAND PERRY PIONEER 23.707 - 246.163
3 FLORIDA GEORGIA LINE HERE'S TO THE GOOD TIMES 20.926 - 557.338
5 PAISLEY*BRAD WHEELHOUSE 16.773 - 151.742
6 BRYAN*LUKE SPRING BREAK...HERE TO PARTY 14.479 - 368.490
7 SWIFT*TAYLOR RED 12.785 - 3.625.448
9 ALDEAN*JASON NIGHT TRAIN 10.455 - 1.261.386
10 CHURCH*ERIC CHIEF 10.155 -1.507.751
12 LITTLE BIG TOWN TORNADO 9.078 - 855.846
13 BRYAN*LUKE TAILGATES & TANLINES 9.009 - 1.974.387
14 MCGRAW*TIM TWO LANES OF FREEDOM 8.088 - 290.190
15 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE BLOWN AWAY 7.802 - 1.420.344
16 LAMBERT*MIRANDA FOUR THE RECORD 7.774 - 813.483
17 HAYES*HUNTER HUNTER HAYES 7.068 - 749.833
20 BROWN*ZAC BAND UNCAGED 4.472 - 847.787
Rock:
1 PHOENIX BANKRUPT! 50.164 - 50.257
2 FALL OUT BOY SAVE ROCK & ROLL 36.111 - 190.072
3 IMAGINE DRAGONS NIGHT VISIONS 21.493 - 863.308
4 MUMFORD & SONS BABEL 16.609 - 2.235.712
5 FUN. SOME NIGHTS 14.828 - 1.312.975
6 LUMINEERS LUMINEERS 14.778 - 1.223.089
http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=97423&start=50
not to say that other genres arent mostly trash these days as well....BUT hip hop is like 95% garbage.... all carried by production with simpleton rhymes that my 3 year old god son could write...its a shame...nobody has passion anymore its just all about who can make the catchiest garbage song and make money...only a rare select few rappers that still give a shyt
Kendrick did some nice numbers, but I won't be surprised if they brought some of them albums. He's a good rapper, but he lacks what all rappers this generation lacks. CHARACTER!
Rappers were damn near like Super Heroes, they had origin stories, personality, their beats reflected THEM, they didn't just hope on instrumentals and spit.
The industry needs stars, INTERESTING PEOPLE who happen to be able to rap.
There's a lot of good rappers, but none of them have character, they're boring people and have lived uneventful lives so they have boring music that doesn't stand the test of time.
Which leads me to the biggest reason the game is fukked up, JAY-Z
All this young nikkaz wanna be Jay-Z, but they not Jay-Z, the rhyme style, the beat selection is one thing.
But They never sold drugs in Marcy Projects, they were never fly money savvy people, so when they get money and try to stunt they all corny.
When I listen to Drake, big Sean, and Wiz I don't hear the triumphant disdain from society when they talk about money and balling like I heard throughout every Jay-Z track, the grit is not there, they ain't stunters, they only trying to be flashy because thats what they think rappers are suppose to do. They have no character, so there music lacks character.
Every Rapper exaggerates their life story, but there has to be something there to exaggerate in the first place.
Let me break down the mega stars of Rap to the new breed and you will see.
50 Cent= Street Hustler from Queens, Mother got killed, lead his own crew in the drug business, got shot 9 times, climbed to the top of the rap game while taking down his enemies in both the streets and the industry.
Eminem=White boy who went to all black school in Detroit, got beat up everyday, mom was drug addict, honed his skills in the hood Battling credible MC's earning him respect, got noticed by the Legendary Dr. Dre, and the rest his history.
Jay-Z= Successful drug dealer from Marcy Projects, quit while he was head, started his own record label with the aura of the streets surrounding him self made man who broke his way into the industry and built an empire
now some new cats
Drake= Kid TV star from Canada turned rapper.
Wiz Khalifa= Pot head from PA
Big Sean = Goofy kid from Detroit, who meet Kanye and a radio station, begged him for a record deal.
Lil Wanye= Child rapper turned dope fiend
the rest of these lil nikkaz can't even be mentioned, because we don't know shyt about them anyway
You see the difference.
If your not an interesting person you should be allowed to be rap star, should be rendered to being writer to make a living, and the rap industry would thrive
I should be fukking A&R vip of operations or something
Rappers were damn near like Super Heroes, they had origin stories, personality, their beats reflected THEM, they didn't just hope on instrumentals and spit.
The industry needs stars, INTERESTING PEOPLE who happen to be able to rap.
There's a lot of good rappers, but none of them have character, they're boring people and have lived uneventful lives so they have boring music that doesn't stand the test of time.
Which leads me to the biggest reason the game is fukked up, JAY-Z
All this young nikkaz wanna be Jay-Z, but they not Jay-Z, the rhyme style, the beat selection is one thing.
But They never sold drugs in Marcy Projects, they were never fly money savvy people, so when they get money and try to stunt they all corny.
When I listen to Drake, big Sean, and Wiz I don't hear the triumphant disdain from society when they talk about money and balling like I heard throughout every Jay-Z track, the grit is not there, they ain't stunters, they only trying to be flashy because thats what they think rappers are suppose to do. They have no character, so there music lacks character.
Every Rapper exaggerates their life story, but there has to be something there to exaggerate in the first place.
Let me break down the mega stars of Rap to the new breed and you will see.
50 Cent= Street Hustler from Queens, Mother got killed, lead his own crew in the drug business, got shot 9 times, climbed to the top of the rap game while taking down his enemies in both the streets and the industry.
Eminem=White boy who went to all black school in Detroit, got beat up everyday, mom was drug addict, honed his skills in the hood Battling credible MC's earning him respect, got noticed by the Legendary Dr. Dre, and the rest his history.
Jay-Z= Successful drug dealer from Marcy Projects, quit while he was head, started his own record label with the aura of the streets surrounding him self made man who broke his way into the industry and built an empire
now some new cats
Drake= Kid TV star from Canada turned rapper.
Wiz Khalifa= Pot head from PA
Big Sean = Goofy kid from Detroit, who meet Kanye and a radio station, begged him for a record deal.
Lil Wanye= Child rapper turned dope fiend
the rest of these lil nikkaz can't even be mentioned, because we don't know shyt about them anyway
You see the difference.
If your not an interesting person you should be allowed to be rap star, should be rendered to being writer to make a living, and the rap industry would thrive
I should be fukking A&R vip of operations or something
Why we gotta lower standards for these rap nikkas though?
Last I checked, Lumineers, Fun., and Imagine Dragons all dropped debut major albums and are going platinum on these fools.
Why can't these rappers do it?
Cuz country/ Pop/ alt fans arent bootlegging massive amounts of music. Those rap music blogs that give away free music are just a gateway to bootlegging.
'Oh they're using hulkshare/mediafire to upload tracks to their website?'
*googles hulkshare/mediafire and MC Pee Pants. Rapes his entire catalog Rick Ross style. Complains about sales and state of hip hop on a forum*
Rap as a genre is as healthy as its been since gangsta rap killed off all the progressive cultural elements. The sales don't reflect who is consuming the music. Neither do Datpiff downloads when I can email a link out to 30 people who send it to 900 people.
:rozay::rozay::rozay::rozay::rozay:
Yooooooooooooo, it took like 13 years for that nukka to get a release date and when it finally comes his shyt ain't even go Pez Dispenser :artbarr:
Where the Papsmear Stan's at
Tuc2DaBoot
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I get what you're saying. And everyone is bringing up legit points.
My point is that these artists are not allowing themselves to build a fanbase that cares about supporting artists rather than being popular. You'd think 2 Chainz, Future or Rick Ross is selling multi-platinum with the radio/club play they get. Yet these rock bands can drop one single, push the hell out of it, and get their fanbase to buy into it. Then the casual fans hear it on radio/youtube, download the single and THEN buy the album. And bands like Fun and Imagine Dragons definitely cater to a younger crowd.
Selling gold is nothing to snicker at, it's great. Just saying, these rappers could sell a lot more given their popularity. But when you put hella mixtapes on Datpiff and let every blog get your new singles, no one is going think twice about buying the album. They're waiting on those Sharebeast/Hulkshare links.
Whats funny about this is how many of the rappers who strictly give away free music claim to be hustlers.
*Gets a G pack on consignment from the label. Gives away the entire thing in testers. Waits for label to front them another package.*