Somebody, Anybody.....#DoSomething: 2019 FSU Seminoles

[tjax03]

Hahaha, so now he in over his head??? Fanbases are weird. Sure, Frenchie may be a bytchass nikka from the outside looking in, but that dont mean every tweet coming outta the locker room is pertaining to him or the QB situation. Let Frenchie "lose" the job first. Up until the Clemson game, he was the leading passer in the ACC. Sure Blackman balled out against NC State.....but we still lost. We're FSU, damnit! Thats the standard. No matter how much we love Blackman, he didnt play well enough to win at NC St, so this whining the fanbase is doing over who starts in South Bend as a 18 point dog against a top 5 defense is laughable. It don't matter who we start Saturday. So at least let Frenchie loss the gig first. Start him (dont even know if he is starting yet) and if he's not producing, yank him or at least he's shown performance wise that we should go with Blackman or stay with him. Its clear most of y'all could never be head coaches. Got cats in here talking about recruiting falling off, etc. He got the hardest culture change of any Big 3 school and will have the highest ranked class over both schools. Watching these same players quit against Houston, Louisville, BC, and barely make a bowl last year.....Im shocked most of y'all acting like this result this year is somehow beneath this program. Jimbo left a fukking mess. Ungrateful fan base.

Man you gotta take them garnet and gold glasses off. Taggart was never the right guy for fsu from jump. He was overhyped for what he did at a small school. When he went to a big conference he was average. That same team Oregon got a better recored even though
he gone.
Him and scott frost the same guy. Two good small school coaches but not good with big time programs.


As far as frenchie, what purpose does it serve to play him? Who cares about stats. When he in the game we not winning, we not scoring, we not even getting first downs. He just putting up empty stats like Blake bortles.

Go with blackman and finish the season with him.

 

[Champ_KW]

Man you gotta take them garnet and gold glasses off. Taggart was never the right guy for fsu from jump. He was overhyped for what he did at a small school. When he went to a big conference he was average. That same team Oregon got a better recored even though
he gone.
Him and scott frost the same guy. Two good small school coaches but not good with big time programs.


As far as frenchie, what purpose does it serve to play him? Who cares about stats. When he in the game we not winning, we not scoring, we not even getting first downs. He just putting up empty stats like Blake bortles.

Go with blackman and finish the season with him.

He was never the right guy from the jump??? Overhyped for what he did at a small school??? Went to a big conference and was average??? See, you've basically disqualified yourself from any educated conversation about this football team moving forward. A guy that took two programs from the floor (WKU and USF) and made them contenders AND made them sustainable even after he left is "in over his head" 9 games into his tenure, but a guy like Jimbo, who had never been a head coach and never ran a program of his own wasn't?? Ask Bobby Petrino's and Jeff Brohm's agent if Willie knows how to build a program since they ate off his players and culture after he left? Ask Charlie Strong if Willie knows what he's doing as he eats off what Willie built at USF? Ask Cristobal and Leavitt if Willie knows what he's doing as they're eating off his offense and recruits at Oregon? I would love for you to show me a post where you said the same about Jimbo. Never mind Willie got left an offensive line that's currently starting two guards at tackle and a converted DT. Never mind Willie got left a LB group that was so piss poor that a freshman safety (Woodbey) and an undersized "glorified LB" (Brooks) are the starters. All the bright spots on this team are either Willie guys or people that the guy before, you know....the one that wasn't in over his head, redshirted in favor of walkon WR Jared Jackson (Tamorrion Terry). And your "void of context" hot take about Oregon is laughable. Willie lost one or two games with Herbert as starter and averaged 50ppg when he played. Tell me has Oregon looked like that this year? Hung damn near 50 on Arizona last year but mustered 14 just this past week. Those relationships with all those Cali kids that are showing up in Eugene.....all Willie. So miss me with the nonsense. Has this season gone perfect? Absolutely not. But I'm thrown off at how accelerated Willie's expectations are amongst media and so called fans....I wonder why?

Like I said earlier, most of y'all would make shytty coaches. Y'all want Willie to punish Frenchie for his sins prior to him showing up?? Sure, as fans, we have years of dealing with Frenchie bytch ass ways.....Willie had 10 months. And by all accounts, he has been a great teammate and not on the bullshyt AND was the leading passer in the conference up until the Clemson game. Let the kid lose the job first. I highly doubt anyone was with this nonsense when Charlie Ward got hurt and Kanell came in and threw for 5 tds in the next game. This line isn't getting better, so what's wrong with starting Frenchie now that he's healthy? Now if his performance Saturday is piss poor, then you can move on to Blackman for BC and UF. But most of y'all acting like scorned women hating on a kid you never even met from thousands of miles away. You're the one that need to remove the glasses. It's not that serious. Simply let Frenchie lose the job first. It's not rocket science. And stop getting emotional over a 3 min interview where the kid said he was the QB......or maybe, just maybe.....Willie is in over his head and should shut the media out all season like Jimbo did. Maybe then you soap opera fiends would move on to something more pressing than this nonsense.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

@tjax03 @Champ_KW from my POV, with all the goodwill and hype from the moment he was hired, folks may have had a false sense of realization that "hey, maybe it was the last coaching staff and not the players who are this bad". Whenin reality, a lot of these nikkas are trash and should have never been getting significant playing time to begin with (i.e. Meyers, Westbrook. Brooks, Gavin, and damn near every o-lineman on the roster). I'm being patient with Taggs but I'm also living in reality that some of these coordinators should start looking for employment elsewhere (Alonzo, maybe Walt Bell, Snyder, maybe Frey and Kelly needs to be in the position he was originally supposed to occupy and not be the WR coach). As far the recruiting trail, I'm done with getting blinded by star ratings. Bust rate is ridiculously high with the 15 & 16 classes. Get some dogs in here that fit the system AND have some potential for growth and not maxed out talent wise by the the time they hit Dunlap IPF. All hope ain't lost brehs

 

[Champ_KW]

@tjax03 @Champ_KW from my POV, with all the goodwill and hype from the moment he was hired, folks may have had a false sense of realization that "hey, maybe it was the last coaching staff and not the players who are this bad". Whenin reality, a lot of these nikkas are trash and should have never been getting significant playing time to begin with (i.e. Meyers, Westbrook. Brooks, Gavin, and damn near every o-lineman on the roster). I'm being patient with Taggs but I'm also living in reality that some of these coordinators should start looking for employment elsewhere (Alonzo, maybe Walt Bell, Snyder, maybe Frey and Kelly needs to be in the position he was originally supposed to occupy and not be the WR coach). As far the recruiting trail, I'm done with getting blinded by star ratings. Bust rate is ridiculously high with the 15 & 16 classes. Get some dogs in here that fit the system AND have some potential for growth and not maxed out talent wise by the the time they hit Dunlap IPF. All hope ain't lost brehs

I feel you on this and agree with pretty much everything you said. Only coach that has failed his position group is Alonzo Hampton and maybe Pimp. I don't think the recruiting was the issue, it's the development that has been missing at FSU for years now. Jimbo never blowing the likes of Duke and Wake out never gave our 2-3 deep any significant snaps. Dontavious Jackson is a junior....it's criminal that he hasn't had a lot of reps at a position of need prior to this year. It is downright criminal that Terry didn't see a snap last year. It's criminal that none of the TE's on this roster saw any meaningful snaps prior to this year. These kids are working at a development deficit and it's no ones fault except the prior staff. We have no depth of developed players and that's a shame at a program like FSU.

 

[klutch2381]

There hasn’t been an FSU team to just get their ass best like this every game since probably the early 70’s.

 

[Lootpack]

Goddamn we are ass.

 

[klutch2381]

@Champ_KW I actually admire the optimistic approach you take to things. I disagree with the reality of it on many occasions, but I don’t begrudge you for your perspective.


A scholar once said, “There’s levels to this shyt.” Nowhere is that more apparent than football. The annals of football are filled with guys that killed it on a lower level (even more so than Willie ever “killed it anywhere”) - got a big time job and floundered. People don’t remember Dan Hawkins having a 82% winning percentage at Boise State. They just know him for that intramurals rant and that he failed at Colorado. Hell, we just saw it recently with Jim Mcelwan and Al Golden in the state of FL. It’s one thing to do it at CSU. It’s an entirely different thing to do it at UF. For every Urban Meyer, for every Jim Tressell - dudes that came from small schools to be really successful there’s 15 Gerry Faust, mofos. Dude was such a good high school coach they let him coach Notre Dame.

In other words, coaches with a superior pedigree to Willie have sunk when they went out into deeper seas. Willie may yet turn it around here, but I haven’t seen anything to show that him and this staff are remotely near competent, currently. You just can’t convince me that Wake Forest has more football talent than us. No one can convince me of that. At this point, the job has been way too big for him.

 

[klutch2381]

I know this team caught the staff by surprise like a muhfukka too.


Willie told old girl (the one I know that is around the players) when she had her nails done with all the championship years on them — that she’d be adding 2018 or 2019 to them.

 

[OfTheCross]

UCF and FIU are probably the most attended schools in Florida...fukk it. They deserve to shine.

 

[Champ_KW]

@Champ_KW I actually admire the optimistic approach you take to things. I disagree with the reality of it on many occasions, but I don’t begrudge you for your perspective.


A scholar once said, “There’s levels to this shyt.” Nowhere is that more apparent than football. The annals of football are filled with guys that killed it on a lower level (even more so than Willie ever “killed it anywhere”) - got a big time job and floundered. People don’t remember Dan Hawkins having a 82% winning percentage at Boise State. They just know him for that intramurals rant and that he failed at Colorado. Hell, we just saw it recently with Jim Mcelwan and Al Golden in the state of FL. It’s one thing to do it at CSU. It’s an entirely different thing to do it at UF. For every Urban Meyer, for every Jim Tressell - dudes that came from small schools to be really successful there’s 15 Gerry Faust, mofos. Dude was such a good high school coach they let him coach Notre Dame.

In other words, coaches with a superior pedigree to Willie have sunk when they went out into deeper seas. Willie may yet turn it around here, but I haven’t seen anything to show that him and this staff are remotely near competent, currently. You just can’t convince me that Wake Forest has more football talent than us. No one can convince me of that. At this point, the job has been way too big for him.

Most of those guys weren't change agents though. We've seen this movie before with Willie. That's why I'm shocked at how short his leash is with some of the fan base. Its not like he strictly got hired cause of something so fickle like play calling or who he coached under. He got where he is because what he brings is culture change and recruits. That doesn't change whether you're at FSU or WKU. All he needs is time. If given that chance to flip culture and recruit his players, its lights out. And the cold part about it, it won't even take that long either. This season is a wash, but the pieces are there. And the one thing that lets me know FSU is in good shape, its the lack of a mass exodus of recruits. No decommits so far. That lets me know the message is resonating with kids sitting at home on a couch, I can only imagine how the message is resonating in the locker room to the kids that'll be there for the long haul. These upperclassmen may have checked out or may not have bought all the way in, but there are kids that are trying hard. We're just a young, mentally soft, and underdeveloped team.......that happened to have a top 3 schedule this year. FSU will be a 10 win team in 2020, easily.

 

[FakeNews]

HUGE,HUGE Recruiting weekend coming up. Just my opinion but you can tell these big time recruits want a reason to come to FSU, but every big time recruiting weekend FSU has had this year, they've laid an egg on the field. FSU needs to show some signs of life these next two weeks

 

[tjax03]

He was never the right guy from the jump??? Overhyped for what he did at a small school??? Went to a big conference and was average??? See, you've basically disqualified yourself from any educated conversation about this football team moving forward. A guy that took two programs from the floor (WKU and USF) and made them contenders AND made them sustainable even after he left is "in over his head" 9 games into his tenure, but a guy like Jimbo, who had never been a head coach and never ran a program of his own wasn't?? Ask Bobby Petrino's and Jeff Brohm's agent if Willie knows how to build a program since they ate off his players and culture after he left? Ask Charlie Strong if Willie knows what he's doing as he eats off what Willie built at USF? Ask Cristobal and Leavitt if Willie knows what he's doing as they're eating off his offense and recruits at Oregon? I would love for you to show me a post where you said the same about Jimbo. Never mind Willie got left an offensive line that's currently starting two guards at tackle and a converted DT. Never mind Willie got left a LB group that was so piss poor that a freshman safety (Woodbey) and an undersized "glorified LB" (Brooks) are the starters. All the bright spots on this team are either Willie guys or people that the guy before, you know....the one that wasn't in over his head, redshirted in favor of walkon WR Jared Jackson (Tamorrion Terry). And your "void of context" hot take about Oregon is laughable. Willie lost one or two games with Herbert as starter and averaged 50ppg when he played. Tell me has Oregon looked like that this year? Hung damn near 50 on Arizona last year but mustered 14 just this past week. Those relationships with all those Cali kids that are showing up in Eugene.....all Willie. So miss me with the nonsense. Has this season gone perfect? Absolutely not. But I'm thrown off at how accelerated Willie's expectations are amongst media and so called fans....I wonder why?

Like I said earlier, most of y'all would make shytty coaches. Y'all want Willie to punish Frenchie for his sins prior to him showing up?? Sure, as fans, we have years of dealing with Frenchie bytch ass ways.....Willie had 10 months. And by all accounts, he has been a great teammate and not on the bullshyt AND was the leading passer in the conference up until the Clemson game. Let the kid lose the job first. I highly doubt anyone was with this nonsense when Charlie Ward got hurt and Kanell came in and threw for 5 tds in the next game. This line isn't getting better, so what's wrong with starting Frenchie now that he's healthy? Now if his performance Saturday is piss poor, then you can move on to Blackman for BC and UF. But most of y'all acting like scorned women hating on a kid you never even met from thousands of miles away. You're the one that need to remove the glasses. It's not that serious. Simply let Frenchie lose the job first. It's not rocket science. And stop getting emotional over a 3 min interview where the kid said he was the QB......or maybe, just maybe.....Willie is in over his head and should shut the media out all season like Jimbo did. Maybe then you soap opera fiends would move on to something more pressing than this nonsense.

Man you cannot compare wku and usf to fsu.

The money, competition, limelight, personalitites and most importantly recruiting isnt even comparable.

At Those schools you can get maybe one or two 5 star recruits and ball out. At this level you gotta have multple 4 and 5 star guys, damn near an nfl team like clemson and bama to just to stay competitive.

After that you need coaches and right now fsu has neither the coaches nor the players.

Thats why i say willie in over his head. Dude went a mediocre 7-6 overall and 4-5 in the pac 12. Thats not good enough for him to have this job at fsu. Which means he got this job because what he did at the small schools.

We needed a proven big time school head coach that knows how to run things and be a ceo of a corporation. Willie is not that. He doesnt have the personality. This is equivalent to ron zook at florida.

Both guys can recruit and talk positive in press conferences but they cant coach at big time powerhouses

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

We needed a proven big time school head coach that knows how to run things and be a ceo of a corporation.

With the money constraints this program about to go with, who do you suggest? Keep in mind, you'll be paying 2 staffs and possibly some of the casualties of Bimbo's who left too. Andy Miller ain't begging Dunlap or the spanx broad to do anything that fiscally irresponsible

 

[klutch2381]

We need these two games. We have to have them, or I’m going scorched Earff out this bytch.

 

[Champ_KW]

Man you cannot compare wku and usf to fsu.

The money, competition, limelight, personalitites and most importantly recruiting isnt even comparable.

At Those schools you can get maybe one or two 5 star recruits and ball out. At this level you gotta have multple 4 and 5 star guys, damn near an nfl team like clemson and bama to just to stay competitive.

After that you need coaches and right now fsu has neither the coaches nor the players.

Thats why i say willie in over his head. Dude went a mediocre 7-6 overall and 4-5 in the pac 12. Thats not good enough for him to have this job at fsu. Which means he got this job because what he did at the small schools.

We needed a proven big time school head coach that knows how to run things and be a ceo of a corporation. Willie is not that. He doesnt have the personality. This is equivalent to ron zook at florida.

Both guys can recruit and talk positive in press conferences but they cant coach at big time powerhouses

Like we needed first time head coach Jimbo Fisher when he got the job?