Someone's GOAT (NOT MINE) got whooped in a first round series after getting gifted a top 5 player in the league

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@Mister Terrific

SOME HELP FROM CHATGPT SINCE U DIDNT SEE IT IN REAL TIME

 

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Down 3-0 and elimination game Kobe is outscored by JJ Barea and Jason Terry

Classic elimination game Kobe

Spoiler

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KOBE HAS A BETTER RECORD IN GAME 7S LOL

LEBRON FOCUSED ON UPLIFTING HIS OWN STATS AND SACRIFICED HIS TEAMMATES'

KOBE FOCUSED ON UPLIFTING HIS TEAMMATES AND SACRIFICED HIS OWN

 

[jaydawg08]

KOBE WAS UNEQUIVOCALLY BETTER THAN SHAQ IN 04... SHAQ WAS SLOW N OUTA SHAPE BY THEN

HE ONLY GOT BACK IN SHAPE FPR THE HEAT BECAUSE HE WAS MOTIVATED

DETROITS PLAN WAS THE LET SHAQ SCORE BECAUSE THEY KNEW HE COULDNT BEAT THEM AND ONLY KOBE COULD

ITS ALL WELL DOCUMENTED

JUST LIKE SHAQS ATROCIOUS PICK N ROLL D WHICH WAS OUR MAIN DOWNFALL THAT SERIES.. NOT BEIN ABLE TO DEFEND THE PICK N ROLL

Shaq's pick-and-roll defense is a no-go

PRO BASKETBALL: NBA FINALS NOTES

www.nwitimes.com

^ ALL DOCUMENTED IN REAL TIME

lakers main downfall was Kobe shooting like Julius Randle on the Knick’s

38%!? Gahdamn!

 

[murksiderock]

Dominating? Bron ain’t even make the playoffs his first 2 seasons. Kobe took the stairs to the top, he wasn’t offered an elevator ride

lmao at this bullshyt spin. Kobe angled his way to the Lakers over the Hornets, the Lakers who'd just acquired a Top 5 player in The League, rather than grind it out in Charlotte ...

The same Top 5 player who became the best player in The League, and had one if the highest peaks ever, in the same Laker uniform Kobe wore, gifting Kobe 3 championships....while Kobe went on to play 12 years without said player, winning 2 rings, so 60% of his rings were won with this great player leading the charge...

But Kobe didnt get the "elevator ride"

Kobe's legacy is immensely helped by manipulating his way to a Shaq-led LA, because without those 3 extra titles that he wasn't the best player for, the conversation around his career would be different. Hell his career in total as is, is widely viewed as just fringe Top 10. If you take away the Comeback Kobe run and just leave the 3peat, he'd be viewed as Pippen level. If you take away the Shaq years and just leave the Comeback Kobe run, we talking about a guy who is probably Top 20 but he wouldn't be in any Top 10 conversations...

Before his passing he was hotly debated as possibly just outside the Top 10, theres dozens of published articles to attest to this. Yes there were people who called him Top 10 bit the range in how people regarded him was wider than any other top tier All-Timer...

Then he passed and all of a sudden sayinv he wasn't Top 10 was viewed as "disrespectful"......even though plenty of people and publications had said he wasnt for years.

You could make the argument he's had the biggest elevator rides in history because no one gets the "popular vote" the way this guy got, and has gotten. To the point mf's acted like it was bullshyt to say Duncan was a better All-Time player...

Hmm well MJ won 37 games both years on the Wiz. Bron won 37 games his first year here and won 33 games with AD and Westbrook. Won 43 games with AD/RW/Reaves/DLO

Y'all keep acting like Bron had us out here winning 55 games every season.

MJ in a Wizards jersey in the games he actually played:

•30-30 (.500), ~41-win pace; better than Wizards actual 37 wins; if Mike played full year Wizards still would've missed the 8-seed
•37-45 (.451); missed playoffs

Total Wizards record, in games he actually played:

67-75 (.472), ~38.7 win pace

Bron in the games he actually played in a Laker jersey:

•28-27 (.509), ~41.7 win pace; better than Lakers actual wins (37); Lakers still would've missed playoffs
•50-17 (.746), ~61.2 win pace; better than Lakers actual ~60 wins and they won it all anyway
•30-15 (.667), ~54.7 win pace; better than Lakers actual ~48 wins; Lakers would've been 3-seed
•25-31 (.446), ~36.6 win pace; Lakers would've been better than SA and made play-in
•30-25 (.545), ~44.7 win pace; better than Lakers actual wins (43); Lakers likely would've been 5-seed but they made WCF anyway
•41-30 (.577), ~47.4 win pace
•44-26 (.629), ~51.5 win pace

LeBron as a Laker, ib games he actually played:

248-171 (.592), ~48.5 win pace WHEN HE PLAYS

He missed a ton of time in 4 of his 7 Laker seasons ('19, '21, '22, '23). 2021 is the real lost year for the Lakers, if he plays a normal ~70 games or so that year (which wouldve been aggregated to 61 in the covid short year), instead of the 45 he actually played, the Lakers may have repeated. The Suns and Jazz and Mavs weren't beating them if he was healthy that year...

Regardless, his Laker tenure is infinitely more successful than Mike's Wizard tenure. +10 more wins/year on average, and won a championship...

Kobe stans are 100% more insecure than Bron stans.

100 fukking percent...

Bron fans having a meltdown like this is like when a nikka wife’s a thot and breaks down when they cheated on. Support a career loser and get surprised when the loser loses brehs

A guy who is a 4x champion with 10 Finals appearances and 4 MVPs, 4 Finals MVPs, is a "career loser", brehs

 

[Osmosis]

KOBE HAS A BETTER RECORD IN GAME 7S LOL

LEBRON FOCUSED ON UPLIFTING HIS OWN STATS AND SACRIFICED HIS TEAMMATES'

KOBE FOCUSED ON UPLIFTING HIS TEAMMATES AND SACRIFICED HIS OWN

Elimination game record :
LeBron 14-11
MJ 6-7
Kobe 9-10

Game 7:
Bron: 6-2
Kobe: 6-1
MJ: 4-1

Kobe averaged 21 PPG on 39 FG% in game 7s he's lucky his teammates showed out because he was actively shooting them out the game. Sacrifice while taking 25+ shots and bricking most of them?

 

[Mister Terrific]

YOU DONT KNOW BASKETBALL SON

LOL

YOURE FAR BEYOND THE POINT WHERE U CAN BE SAVED

THERE ARE LITERAL BOOKS WRITTEN ABOUT THAT 2004 SEASON .... WHICH IVE READ BTW

THE BIGGEST ISSUES IN 2004

1.CHEMISTRY... PAYTON WAS BEEFIN WITH PHIL.... KARL MALONE BEEFIN WIT KOBE.... TEAM WASNT ON THE SAME PAGE

2.KARL MALONE INJURY... WE EVENTUALLY HAD TO START SLAVA MEDVEDENKO ALONGSIDE DEVEAN GEORGE WHICH WAS AN EPIC FAILURE

3.SHAQS PICK N ROLL D.. IT WAS WELL DOCUMENTED THAT SHAQ WAS FAT N OUTA SHAPE. HE REFUSED TO MOVE UP ON THE PICK N ROLL.. DETROIT PLAYED INTO THIS BY GIVING HIM EASY CONCESSION BASKETS ON OFFENSE

4.KOBES COLORADO TRIAL ... HE WAS FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE. FLYING BACK N FORTH FROM COURT TO THE BASKETBALL COURT. DETROIT OPTED TO DOUBLE N TRIPLE TEAM KOBE, KNOWING HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD BEAT THEM.

THATS THE FACTS FOR THOSE WHO ONLY KNOW THE SERIES FROM READING BOX SCORES.

The Lakers scored

75
99
68
80
87


You blaming Shaq’s pick and role defense is diabolical


Btw Kobe “it’s my fault”

 

[Road20]

LMAO

THE 95 BULLS WERE BARELY
OVER 500 WHEN PIP
WAS PUBLICLY BEGGING MJ TO COME BACK.



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What about 94?

 

[HabitualChiller]

He couldn’t back then either. Fam.

He could guard the 1-4 and some 5s, yes.

 

[Road20]

KOBE THE ONLY PLAYER EVER TO WIN BACK TO BACK WITOUT A TOP 75 TEAMMATE

Kobe was that guy

 

[Mister Terrific]

KOBES PRIMARY ASSIGNMENT WAS REGGIE MILLER LMAOOOOO


THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT CASUAL

I assumed Kobe would guard the best player but this doesn’t help your argument wither


Reggie Miller 2000 finals

24 points per game on 58%TS

Lock down


Kobe’s TS for the series was 41% btw. He averaged the same amount of points as Austin Croshere on worse %. You can make a legit case Kobe was the 4th best player on the court.


The Pacers win that series if Shaq wasn’t an absolute demon.

 

[Torrential]

Kobe had more all NBA defenses than their false God . Hoe ass nikkas don’t ever want to bring up how superior bean and MJ are to that fraud on the defensive end

 

[holidayinn21]

Dude was going up against Kyle Lowry, Demar Derozan, George Hill, and Roy Hibbert in the Conference Finals

Those teams would've been 7/8 seeds in the West.

Bron's whole 2010s run were hella fugazi

 

[Mister Terrific]

KOBE WAS UNEQUIVOCALLY BETTER THAN SHAQ IN 04... SHAQ WAS SLOW N OUTA SHAPE BY THEN

Shaq had a better PER that year on lower usage and shot 58% from the field to Kobe’s 43%


MY LORD STOP THIS NONSENSE

 

[10bandz]

Shaq had a better PER that year on lower usage and shot 58% from the field to Kobe’s 43%


MY LORD STOP THIS NONSENSE

Try actually watching basketball.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Dude was going up against Kyle Lowry, Demar Derozan, George Hill, and Roy Hibbert in the Conference Finals

Those teams would've been 7/8 seeds in the West.

Bron's whole 2010s run were hella fugazi

Raps were 18-12 vs the West in 2017. They beat the 65 win Houston Rockets twice.




Y’all just say any damn thing. The west wasn’t even good that year outside of the Rockets and GS


7/8 seed in the west. The 3rd seed was the Blazers who got swept in the first round by the Pelicans