"Sometimes I brag like Hov, sometimes I'm real like Pac"-J.Cole

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Blackthoughts said:
If you look at Pac singles you won't find much bragging. Pac only talked about material shyt when he signed to Death Row and it's not as if he did it a lot. You can listen to Makaveli and probably don't hear any bragging. AEOM had a little bit of bragging but he damn sure didn't devote any songs to it. He had a line here and there but no one left any Pac album thinking "damn this nikka is flaunting his superior lifestyle in my face".
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do you realize when pac was hot was the tail end of the conscious music. i'm talking not regular afrocentric conscious. i'm talking street conscious music.

jay blew up during the shiney suit era. thats not jays fault.



but its true, jay has always approached his songs when he does brag from a boss perspective and not a worker. thats why most people get upset. cause most people are workers and not bosses. so to some degree most people dont understand him. most nuccas were just regular run of the mill thugs on the corner, nothing special. maybe jigga was doing it a bit bigger then the corna? who knows.

but besides the brag songs. jay has had a lot personal introspective songs about himself that was not based soley on him balling out. how people forget that is beyond me. i dont think there is a single rapper that has blown up and been as big as a jay, pac, biggie, etc while being 100% brag raps. you cant do it . you have to give the people YOU the person in order to be around for 5+ albums and still selling decently.

jay gave us a part of himself. thats a fact.


pac on the other hand was riding for thugs. not the regular dude. but THUGS. you do realize THUGS are not the regular dude. thugs are regular dude turned out by the street to become THUGS.

but since so many regular dudes and low level thugs make up most people. you have a situation where what pac said hit home more then what jay would say. and pac made it simple on most songs. jay made you think a bit more early on. thats also a fact. most thugs dont want to think hard, they just want a simple message.
 
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Piff Perkins said:
Born Sinner is full of sneak disses on Hov :heh:
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"Pac had a nikka saying "fukk Jigga, fukk Biggie"
I was only like eleven so forgive me
A decade later I be all up in the city
Tryna get 'Hov to fukk with me
With a burned CD full of jams all up in my head
When he said he didn't want it, it was "fukk him again"
One day, he gon' regret playing me
Little did I know, in a year he'd be fukking paying me
What can you say to me,""

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rapbeats said:
do you realize when pac was hot was the tail end of the conscious music. i'm talking not regular afrocentric conscious. i'm talking street conscious music.

jay blew up during the shiney suit era. thats not jays fault.



but its true, jay has always approached his songs when he does brag from a boss perspective and not a worker. thats why most people get upset. cause most people are workers and not bosses. so to some degree most people dont understand him. most nuccas were just regular run of the mill thugs on the corner, nothing special. maybe jigga was doing it a bit bigger then the corna? who knows.

but besides the brag songs. jay has had a lot personal introspective songs about himself that was not based soley on him balling out. how people forget that is beyond me. i dont think there is a single rapper that has blown up and been as big as a jay, pac, biggie, etc while being 100% brag raps. you cant do it . you have to give the people YOU the person in order to be around for 5+ albums and still selling decently.

jay gave us a part of himself. thats a fact.


pac on the other hand was riding for thugs. not the regular dude. but THUGS. you do realize THUGS are not the regular dude. thugs are regular dude turned out by the street to become THUGS.
but since so many regular dudes and low level thugs make up most people. you have a situation where what pac said hit home more then what jay would say. and pac made it simple on most songs. jay made you think a bit more early on. thats also a fact. most thugs dont want to think hard, they just want a simple message.
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:usure: How was "Keep Ya Head Up? for the Thugs? How was "Baby Don't Cry" for the Thugs? How was "Hold Ya Head" for the Thugs? How was "Me Against The World" for the Thugs? How was "White Mans World" for the Thugs? How was "Blasphemy" for the Thugs? How was "Wonder Why They Call you bytch" for the Thugs? How was "Hold On Be Strong" for the Thugs? If Jay-Z was this trendsetter that everyone believes he is then why in the fukk did he follow the Shiny Suit era? Pac set the trends he didn't follow em.
 
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Budda said:
Don't go round disrespecting the elders who made Pac man.
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So it's disrespect to question if Fred Hampton had a bigger impact than 2Pac? So did Bobby Seale have a bigger impact on the world than Jay-Z? Did Little Bobby Hutton have a bigger impact on the world than Lil Wayne? I know my Black History Fam, I don't need a lecture from any nikka on this board for something I've studied extensively.
 
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Wo said:
Is this a subliminal @ jay?

he saying jay not real?
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When you think of Jay's music and image is real the first thing that comes to your mind? He's just being honest, the guy is known for telling his customers how much better his life is than theirs. Pac was much more relatable to the guy who had nothing. Jay is the guy that guy who has nothing dreams of being but will never become yet loves Jay because he embodies what he wants to be.

It's like poor republicans, they're against taxing the rich because in their mind 1 day they'll be rich :dead:
 
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dapadonna said:
"Pac had a nikka saying "fukk Jigga, fukk Biggie"
I was only like eleven so forgive me
A decade later I be all up in the city
Tryna get 'Hov to fukk with me
With a burned CD full of jams all up in my head
When he said he didn't want it, it was "fukk him again"
One day, he gon' regret playing me
Little did I know, in a year he'd be fukking paying me
What can you say to me,""

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A decade later I be all up in the city
Tryna get hov to fukk wit me
Wit a burned cd full of jims all up in my hand

As in like a year before jay signed him j cole found out what studio jay was going to, so he showed up to the studio and waited outside for hours waiting for jay, hoping jay would put them on American gangster, but jay told him he didnt want that and to give it to one of the dudes in the back

Year later jay signed him and never knew about that situation until cole told him one day in the studio

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Pac tapped in the retardness of black america & told yall what ya wanted to hear. Funny thing is he openly admitted this in several interviews. :dwillhuh: he was way too intelligent for the thug persona.
 
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