Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

[#1 pick]

Im not giving cats undeserved credit fam. If you want to you do that. I'm going by what she posted and from that I think my comments are on point. If you disagree that's cool we all see things differently.

I don't disagree with you breh, I just understood that her references aren't for the collective but for a specific group

 

[philmonroe]

I don't disagree with you breh, I just understood that her references aren't for the collective but for a specific group

I said as much in my post to her though so that's why I'm confused that you act like I didn't. That's where we losing something but I blame it on messageboard posting instead of face to face communication.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I know where she at but still doesn't make it the norm across the board. That was my only point and anybody with a computer can see her anecdotal pov doesn't hold weight to actual facts that's all. I don't got beef with her or anybody but when we have actual stats folks can't still be on their well what I see steez that's all.

what study did he post? i'm not searching the whole thread...

and maybe i'm going too narrow for this convo, but based on that study, i'm thinking about a certain socio-economic level. earning a certain amount now doesn't mean you grew up in the background they're discussing - same with having stats based on "all college grads" when all colleges don't provide the same social capital/mobility/network. i'd like to see the study to see if the intersection i'm talking about in a study is completely different than the one i've experienced.

 

[philmonroe]

what study did he post? i'm not searching the whole thread...

and maybe i'm going too narrow for this convo, but based on that study, i'm thinking about a certain socio-economic level. earning a certain amount now doesn't mean you grew up in the background they're discussing - same with having stats based on "all college grads" when all colleges don't provide the same social capital/mobility/network. i'd like to see the study to see if the intersection i'm talking about in a study is completely different than the one i've experienced.

You don't have to search the whole thread use the search function and post his name lol. Its on page 13/14 if you don't want to do that.

 

[Gravity]

Well, civilians committing violent crimes, such as that, against fellow civilians is illegal on the books in every single jurisdiction in the nation. So, they do have that civil right, and it's illegal for any other civilian to infringe on it.

But, of course as in any society, people break the law and some commit violent crimes. So, the question becomes 'are efforts to reduce violent crimes to make a safer society justification for limiting people's civic freedoms?': The answer is an emphatic no from me, in principle, as freedom takes precedent over stability/security to me. I'd rather be a living in a war zone as a freeman than (physically)safely living as a slave with little to no autonomy.

You’ve bumped your gotdamn head if you thought I was going to read that 10,000 word essay full of bullshyt that you posted

You’re completely full of shyt and proof of the saying “even a broken clock is right twice a day”. The 2nd amendment only gives citizens the rights to bear arms. It doesn’t say that private citizens have the right to own an arsenal of military grade weapons used in war at their disposal. Laws that would restrict that level of weaponry aren’t restricting your freedom. I’m not saying that citizens shouldn’t have the right to bear arms, in saying that there needs to common sense restrictions on the grade of weaponry that private citizens can have. You’re not even dealing with that actual argument, you’re just deflecting to your strawman “you want to take our freedom away” bullshyt just like these dumbass right-wing crackers.

And like I always say......... Strawmaning about crew manned, mass destructive, and/or indiscriminate area weapons like nukes, tanks, artillery, and explosives that obviously have little to no use for personal self defense being banned for civilians, does nothing for your case about why individual, precise, discriminant weapons such as firearms should be banned or restricted for civilian use for self-defense as they're clearly not in the same class as the former, whatsoever.

at you calling a logical point that exposes your bullshyt “strawmaning”.

Your whole position is that you need the right to own weaponry without any restrictions for “personal defense”. Personal defense from who? You don’t need military grade weapons like AR-15s to defend yourself from other private citizens. If you’re a private citizen not live ing a criminal life(which I’m not judging one way or the other), then you wouldn’t need an ar-15 for personal defense. Hand guns and regular rifles serve as personal protection from other citizens just fine. You would only need those military grade type of weapons for defense against a government military or a government militarized police force, and those groups have access to the level of military weaponry that I listed in the last post. So if you’re really worried about being able to defend yourself from the government then why wouldn’t you want access to tanks, fighter planes, nukes and everything else? You’re not even consistent in your bullshyt. Fully and semi-automatic assault rifles aren’t going to protect you from the military or even the police force. You can have all the assault rifles that you want, and it still wouldn’t stop your local police force from coming to get you if they decided to because they have access to more advanced weaponry.

Your position isn’t about personal protection you’re just spouting talking points.

 

[Wild self]

She lives in CA. Bay. Well to do nikkas tend to be looking for others out there. More than that, nikkas like their Black women mixed.

shyt crazy to me. I feel like these liberal hubs are bedbuck central

They are. Places like NY and Cali, dudes be bragging about the variation of women and describe all kinds of other races other than black . We still got a stigma in 2018 that black men from the burbs ain't "real" or not authentic black men. How can you build wealth when you criticize back dudes who want to uplift themselves from poverty?

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

MY DUMB ASS READ THE TITLE TOO FAST. I WAS ABOUT TO GOOGLE RICHARD BLACKS.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

You don't have to search the whole thread use the search function and post his name lol. Its on page 13/14 if you don't want to do that.

i don't see anything from portier in this thread about black marriage, sure it was him?

edit: see it now

 

[B!tchuoffendingme]

bu bu black men are privileged. I never want to hear any of that dumb ass black feminist bullshyt again.

A Black feminist went on an entire fukking rant on twitter over this article because she was mad about the way the authors of the article (not the study the article cites) framed Black women. It was fukking retarded.

 

[BigMan]

By analyzing census data Toldson and Marks found that 83 percent of married black men who earned at least $100,000 annually got hitched to black women. The same is the case for educated black men of all incomes. 85 percent of black male college graduates married black women. Generally, 88 percent of married black men (no matter their income or educational background) have black wives.

https://www.morehouse.edu/media/psychology/pdfs/VITAE academic - Bryant Marks.pdf
https://www.morehouse.edu/centers/mri/bios/itoldson.html

I wonder what the percentages look like for college educated and 100k income Black women?

This professor teaches some very interesting sounding courses

Black women are actually the ones to tend to marry interracial more as they increase in income and education as a group. Black men tend to marry interracial and intraracially at more or less the same socio-economic levels. Black women who marry interracially also tend to marry WAY down in terms of socio-economic quality with white men.

quoting to read later
PROps

 

[BigMan]

i have seen stats on black marriage by education/economic level, no i'm not going to spend my time googling them, you can. those studies paired with what i already said was my observation from being a part of the highly educated black crowd and where i live have shown me more upwardly mobile/high earning BM married to "other" than BW

but again you’re only providing anectodal evidence in this post

 

[Wild self]

I don't know about use being harder on our girls. I just know white supremacy in school don't do them the same like us. They come at both of us differently.

Like a Black girl ain't ever gonna be the it girl. She might win homecoming queen. But when it comes to beauty, the white girl is supreme. But as a Black male, mad girls can like you. Of all races too. In fact, cacs envy you. You can fukk all the hoes if you are a hoe. Black girls beauty is marginized. There presence is noticed but not really unless she's gifted.

If you an ugly nikka, if your swag right, you can still cook, especially with white girls. If you an ugly sista, you better shine them knees or whole out for a big brotha named Bubba.

I'll say this, BB and BG got it BAD. Neither got it good. It's like real life, they give you some shyt but take away all of the important shyt. This idea that BG are doing better is a lie. We seen the data. Most BW between 20-32 have a negative net worth. Bonqueisha doing better than most Black women her age and she work at Sallys with two kids from Roderick.

Outside of your escorts like @cam> most BW that age with degrees are in debt and their job just isn't close to enough to close the gap between their debt and their earnings.

This is part of the reason why BM are outearning BW. They aren't stupid on the average. Sure, suburban nikkas are stupid af. But these nikkas on average aren't

I agreed with the post until the suburban part.

How can wealth be built if we get mad at providing black boys with a quality lifestyle?

 

[#1 pick]

I agreed with the post until the suburban part.

How can wealth be built if we get mad at providing black boys with a quality lifestyle?

I got to reference myself, a lot of us were dumb. We really believe that if we do it right like our many of parents did. You know, go to the right schools, choose tough majors, etc. We graduated under the world our grandparents knew. Doors hardly open if at all. We should have been a wise as the I ain't trying to that shyt nikkas. Those nikkas knew what was real and what is really open

 

[B!tchuoffendingme]

This article is a gut punch for anyone that likes seeing Black men do well, because we imagine that their lineage will carry on a tradition of Black wealth and help sustain a thriving Black middle or upper class.
When I think of Black men with rags to riches stories, I was happy for them because I envisioned they'd given multiple generations of their family better lives. So apparently thats not the case?

 

[semtex]

Where do spending habits come into play