Sons of Rich Blacks Fare No Better than Working Class White Sons - but different finding for Women

[8WON6]

This guy chimes in

the fact that he would even be concerned with the shyt is a good example of white obsession with black success/failure. Making a damn speech about the shyt like the authors of the article tagged him or something.

 

[Intricate Guh]

How did you type that sentence in red as a BW ? Black men have never been systematically oppressed?

The subject of my post was about the racist rhetoric of a site comprised of a majority of BW and how it angers black feminists when the truth was revealed about how white people work harder to keep BM down than BW. You've erected a straw-man argument.

And you claiming not to know that much about LSA is You sound just like those women on the site.

Basic reading comprehension skills would have told you that NO, men have never been oppressed for being MEN. Black men are oppressed for being BLACK. Black women are oppressed for being BLACK AND NON-MEN. Cmon man. You can’t read something you don’t like then jump over comprehension due to a jerk reaction.

And I go to the natural hair care part of LSA. I don’t go into those threads for the same reason I don’t go into these. A bunch of people with cognitive dissonance and past rejection problems. The topic is still an untouched issue but the threads keep coming

 

[L0Qutus]

Basic reading comprehension skills would have told you that NO, men have never been oppressed for being MEN. Black men are oppressed for being BLACK. Black women are oppressed for being BLACK AND NON-MEN. Cmon man. You can’t read something you don’t like then jump over comprehension due to a jerk reaction.

And I go to the natural hair care part of LSA. I don’t go into those threads for the same reason I don’t go into these. A bunch of people with cognitive dissonance and past rejection problems. The topic is still an untouched issue but the threads keep coming

Well you would think an "intricate guh" would also be an articulate one as well. What you meant to say is that white men have never been oppressed but you didn't. Your other posts in this thread stated that it is easier to be a BM in this society than a BW. Research shows that you are wrong.

 

[Intricate Guh]

You didn’t say anything of substance for me to respond to. The part in bold was an absolute insult to not only black men, but intelligence as a whole. With all of the information readily available about how terrible the black male plight is, for you to post that bullshyt only adds insult to injury. Either you’re stupid, or just cruel.

Got it. You don’t have an argument and you can’t articulate your talking points so the good ol’ ‘I don’t have to explain myself to you.. not because I can’t but because I don’t want to’ will have to do. I didn’t expect an intelligent assessment anyways.

I got about 3 more hours in this work day and I’ll be here if anybody wants to answer my question before I stick to the salon and booth.

No answer gives me my answer.

Why do you guys encourage black male promiscuity then complain about single motherhood?

It’s not that hard of a question but the answer causes you to dig deeper and doesn’t allow the blame to be shifted on anyone else but yourself. Can the Coli do it? Find out by 6P standard time.

 

[truth2you]

the fact that he would even be concerned with the shyt is a good example of white obsession with black success/failure. Making a damn speech about the shyt like the authors of the article tagged him or something.

people like him only exist to compete with other groups, but its not a real competition, its just to feel good about themselves.

If he was really about competition, he wouldn't have time to talk about what others are doing, because he would be doing things himself. All the people like him, just live through others because they have nothing going on for themselves. It's good to see your own doing good, but when all you do is see the bad in others, something is wrong with your life, especially when the "others" have no power over you. You know its fukked up when you make a living talking about it, and the people who listen to you are even worse!

 

[Intricate Guh]

Well you would think an "intricate guh" would also be an articulate one as well. What you meant to say is that white men have never been oppressed but you didn't. Your other posts in this thread stated that it is easier to be a BM in this society than a BW. Research shows that you are wrong.

I said exactly what I wanted. Men have never been oppressed for being men, so reverse sexism is a myth.

My direct quote;

Men have never been systematically oppressed. Women have never ruled over men.

Has a black woman ever ruled over black men?
We’re not in charge. Women are still considered second class cictizens just like blacks. You’re acting like we’re the ones killing y’all, not hiring y’all and keeping y’all out of school. Only benefit we got is that women are considered weak and unthreatening so we can move about w/o too much hostility until being weak and unthreatening meets your average garden variety pimp, predator or thirsty male that thinks harassment is a compliment.

 

[L0Qutus]

I said exactly what I wanted. Men have never been oppressed for being men, so reverse sexism is a myth.

My direct quote;


Has a black woman ever ruled over black men?
We’re not in charge. Women are still considered second class cictizens just like blacks. You’re acting like we’re the ones killing y’all, not hiring y’all and keeping y’all out of school. Only benefit we got is that women are considered weak and unthreatening so we can move about w/o too much hostility until being weak and unthreatening meets your average garden variety pimp, predator or thirsty male that thinks harassment is a compliment.

First you pretended like you barely even heard of LSA now you frequent the hair-care forums and are well aware of their "issues" due to their past rejection.

Nobody is addressing your issue of promiscuity b/c it is a deflection from the topic of the thread. Why don't you start a new thread instead of trying to derail this one with some off-topic shyt.

So when everybody plainly admits that the Black community is a matriarchy you want to be obtuse and pretend that BW don't have more opportunities under this system of white supremacy than BM?

 

[Ya?]

In fairness, she went to Stanford. The average BM wasn't attending that University. It was the gifted and the exceptional. I think we need to reclassify this to the AVERAGE HS experience. I will say this from previous experiences. Women like desirable dudes. If you a nerd but she finds you attractive, you will eat. Attraction is important and shouldn't be understated.

Glad you say that. I will never fault a dude for not finding me attractive. It bruises the ego but you can't force attraction.

Athletes never attracted me and I am sure I don't attract any of them. But there are plenty of endearing men outside of athletes so why is the conversation always athletes and everyone else.

 

[BigMan]

Basic reading comprehension skills would have told you that NO, men have never been oppressed for being MEN. Black men are oppressed for being BLACK. Black women are oppressed for being BLACK AND NON-MEN. Cmon man. You can’t read something you don’t like then jump over comprehension due to a jerk reaction.

i disagree with this

look at incarceration, war on drugs, welfare. its the exact inter sectionalism that black feminists talk about at play here.

if you disagree, fine but you're not explaining why the study is wrong or providing any explanations as to why there is a disparity between black men and black women outcomes

And I go to the natural hair care part of LSA. I don’t go into those threads for the same reason I don’t go into these. A bunch of people with cognitive dissonance and past rejection problems. The topic is still an untouched issue but the threads keep coming

i thought you said you don't go on LSA

 

[Intricate Guh]

First you pretended like you barely even heard of LSA now you frequent the hair-care forums and are well aware of their "issues" due to their past rejection.

Nobody is addressing your issue of promiscuity b/c it is a deflection from the topic of the thread. Why don't you start a new thread instead of trying to derail this one with some off-topic shyt.

So when everybody plainly admits that the Black community is a matriarchy you want to be obtuse and pretend that BW don't have more opportunities under this system of white supremacy than BM?

I was well aware of the Coli’s issues before I signed up. I lurked. And I literally said I’m not on LSA. I don’t post. I read threads on how to maintain my 4C hair. You’re doing too much. It’s a site that has over 60+ forums and traffic of over 30,000 a day, last time I checked Coli was pulling in like 11k and only 12 forums and 2 of those are for help navigating. You’re gonna get a little bit of everyone on LSA. Unlike for the black males, LSA is the only collection of black women on the internet while you guys have Boxden, Sohh, Coli, kanyetothe and WSHH even though it’s video and troll based. Being that the world is obsessed with black women and how we think trolls will always sign up for LSA and get their life. Actually talk to black women offline and come back to me. Y’all overextend but that’s internet talk in general.



And THIS is the definition of matriarchy:

1. a system of society or government ruled by a woman or women.
   • a form of social organization in which descent and relationship are reckoned through the female line.
   • the state of being an older, powerful woman in a family or group.

Since when do black women rule the black community when the only reason males are not in the community like that is because of mass incarceration and their (sometimes assisted) unwillingness to settle down in a family. You confuse us with being the one parent to raise the child with us being in control, most women would want the man there if he wanted to be there. Whites banning black men from their own homes probably made you think this way as well but he did not put us in charge, he was still dangling the carrot in front of us.

Give me ONE example of a black matriarch in a US city and if its true I will admit and oblige.

 

[Intricate Guh]

i disagree with this

look at incarceration, war on drugs, welfare. its the exact inter sectionalism that black feminists talk about at play here.

if you disagree, fine but you're not explaining why the study is wrong or providing any explanations as to why there is a disparity between black men and black women outcomes


i thought you said you don't go on LSA

I didn’t know these were men’s problems. I thought black men dealt with that because they’re black.

 

[BigMan]

the black community is matrifocal not a matriachy
martriachies don't exist

I didn’t know these were men’s problems. I thought black men dealt with that because they’re black.

so explain the disparities between outcomes in black men and black women

are you saying the study is wrong?
if so, how and why

 

[Intricate Guh]

the black community is matrifocal not a matriachy
martriachies don't exist



so explain the disparities between outcomes in black men and black women

are you saying the study is wrong?
if so, how and why

to the bolded. I didn’t think anybody that posts here would know what this meant. Kudos to you. You are absolutely right. A matriarch means women rule, your last name is your mother’s, your sister is more important than you and is seen as the family’s successor, your wife’s values and tradition become your own. nikkas don’t even be trying, just throwing and seeing what sticks.

As to the rest, pertaining to what? I do know majority of black male’s issues are a direct result of the white man.. not us, but a lot of our issues are a direct result of both of y’all. Nobody makes y’all beat us, rape us, and pimp us at alarming rates. You fear the white man will take you away, we fear YOU will take us away. We don’t kill y’all like y’all kill us, and anybody that wants to bring up abortion I will bring up common sense that says MOST women don’t want to abort, a mixture of the male’s influence and knowing you can’t provide weigh the decision. Out of ALL the women I know who have had abortions...over 15 in my personal life including family.. ONE ..that’s right ONE uses it as a form of birth control. My ratchet 2nd cousin. Idk about y’all’s case studies.

The black woman is the best thing y’all got going for y’all. We rally. We donate. Even when y’all don’t do it for yourselves. LSA is not a good indicator of what black women think no more than the Coli is a good indicator of what black men think. If all black men in real life thought no p*ssy like new p*ssy, GMB, and PAWG life I’m sure there would be no Obama’s, Johnson’s, or Howroyd’s. It’s for play play

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Not gonna lie, this article kinda has me down.

I'm a stats person and these overwhelming statistics seem impossible to surmount (and no other demographic is expected to do so).

I totally understand why some brehs say fukk it and just chill and smoke their problems away. What's the point?

Also, why the fukk isn't this thread upped?!?!?

 

[BigMan]

to the bolded. I didn’t think anybody that posts here would know what this meant. Kudos to you. You are absolutely right. A matriarch means women rule, your last name is your mother’s, your sister is more important than you and is seen as the family’s successor, your wife’s values and tradition become your own. nikkas don’t even be trying, just throwing and seeing what sticks.

As to the rest, pertaining to what? I do know majority of black male’s issues are a direct result of the white man.. not us, but a lot of our issues are a direct result of both of y’all. Nobody makes y’all beat us, rape us, and pimp us at alarming rates. You fear the white man will take you away, we fear YOU will take us away. We don’t kill y’all like y’all kill us, and anybody that wants to bring up abortion I will bring up common sense that says MOST women don’t want to abort, a mixture of the male’s influence and knowing you can’t provide weigh the decision. Out of ALL the women I know who have had abortions...over 15 in my personal life including family.. ONE ..that’s right ONE uses it as a form of birth control. My ratchet 2nd cousin. Idk about y’all’s case studies.

The black woman is the best thing y’all got going for y’all. We rally. We donate. Even when y’all don’t do it for yourselves. LSA is not a good indicator of what black women think no more than the Coli is a good indicator of what black men think. If all black men in real life thought no p*ssy like new p*ssy, GMB, and PAWG life I’m sure there would be no Obama’s, Johnson’s, or Howroyd’s. It’s for play play

pertaining to this study
i don't believe that these issues are because of black women .
institutional racism is clearly the issue here. and i think thats what the study is saying.
there's obviously something happening to black boys and not black girls for these disparities in outcomes