Sony Wants '23 Jump Street' to Crossover with 'Men in Black'

[MartyMcFly]

Damn all that. Those execs are skimming the money somehow. Or something else shady is going on. Thats the only way it makes sense to put up that much fukking money for the 3rd Men In Black movie. When they hear that they would need 650 Million to breakeven theres not an exec in the world that sign off on that without smoking crack first...

Breh it happened. There were rumors while they were making it that the costs were getting out of control and Will was being a supreme diva on set and demanding more and more stuff which costs more and more money, including his gigantic trailer blocking manhattan traffic and city streets. It's not even about breaking even as much as it's about getting the return on investment you figure you're going to get and when you don't that's an L

 

[NatiboyB]

Shame on them for doing this rather than finding a new ip.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I don't think the premise is good enough for a reboot. Without Will's personality and TLJ's chemistry with him, the movies wouldn't be much too begin with.


Even if you did reboot it, without question they would use the same story from the first, just with less comedy.

But how do you know breh? Obviously the premise was good enough for a studio to buy the rights to it way back in the 1992 before they were even thinking of Will Smith or Tommy Lee as an option.

 

[boskey]

Breh it happened. There were rumors while they were making it that the costs were getting out of control and Will was being a supreme diva on set and demanding more and more stuff which costs more and more money, including his gigantic trailer blocking manhattan traffic and city streets. It's not even about breaking even as much as it's about getting the return on investment you figure you're going to get and when you don't that's an L

So "losing money" in their terminology can mean "we expected 200 million in profit but only got 100 million". I can actually believe that...

 

[MartyMcFly]

So "losing money" in their terminology can mean "we expected 200 million in profit but only got 100 million". I can actually believe that...

If you spend let's say 300 on production alone, then another 200 on the ad campaign because apparently this movie was a huge huge ad campaign, that's 500 million you've spent right there. The flick makes $642 mil but that's worldwide, not domestically so the right off the back they loss money because the film underperformed in the states meaning the demand wasn't high meaning there which is a problem. Then let's say the theater gets 30% of the grosses which rounds to about 190 mil meaning the studio only really makes 436 mil breh which is a loss

 

[boskey]

If you spend let's say 300 on production alone, then another 200 on the ad campaign because apparently this movie was a huge huge ad campaign, that's 500 million you've spent right there. The flick makes $642 mil but that's worldwide, not domestically so the right off the back they loss money because the film underperformed in the states meaning the demand wasn't high meaning there which is a problem. Then let's say the theater gets 30% of the grosses which rounds to about 190 mil meaning the studio only really makes 436 mil breh which is a loss

Understood. But my point is that very few movies gross over 500 million dollars domestic so it seems inherently risky to produce a film that costs that much. Like don't they crunch the numbers before they start production? They have produced thousands of films so it should be pretty clear what it costs to create and market. The whole process seems illogical, but what do I know...

 

[Uncle_Ruckus]

The joke sequels at the end of 22 Jump Street aren't even as bad as this idea.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Understood. But my point is that very few movies gross over 500 million dollars domestic so it seems inherently risky to produce a film that costs that much. Like don't they crunch the numbers before they start production? They have produced thousands of films so it should be pretty clear what it costs to create and market. The whole process seems illogical, but what do I know...

They assumed it would make at least 300 domestically breh which would take it to at least the 700 mill mark which is what they assumed it would make.

 

[Still Benefited]

I understand why dudes hate reboots of old films that there was no need to touch in the first place. Imagine a Godfather reboot. I'd be tightBut when a franchise is getting stale, yet still has tons of potential, a reboot makes a ton of sense. Spiderman and Transformers are good examples of that. I made a post a while ago about rebooting Rush Hour instead of just bringing back Chan and Tucker. Reboots get a bad rap because they're usually half assed money grabs for the most part, but if done with the best interests of the franchise in mind they can be great.

And you wonder why reboots get bad raps....who the hell you gon get to replace prime Chris Tucker? What Asian you gon just grab with the skills,comedic timing and charisma of Jackie Chan?people hate reboots because normally just quitting while you ahead is the best way to go Or we'd rather see the origina characters in the role or nothing at all...its like rebooting Diehard or Bad Boyz...I don't give a damn if they now,give me Bruce Willis,give me William give me Martin



With that said you can mess with MIB all you want,never fukked with it like that,the chemistry with WIll and old cat wasn't once in a lifetime shyt....Wills actually replaceable in that role.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

 

[Bathing Ape]

Would This Make MIB rated R, or does this make Jump Street PG-13?

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

Movie would probably be funny as hell
Aren't both movies like detectives or somethjng

 

[Rapmastermind]

This makes Zero sense. "21/22 Jump St" is based in reality and "MIB" is a supernatural/Aliens type sh!t. Also MIB is based on a comicbook and "Jump St" is a tv show. This sounds desperate. It's very easy to reboot Men in Black if Will and Tommy don't want to come back. You either go back in time and bring Josh Brolin back and show some MIB adventures in the past. Or you bring in two new Agents "Letters". Crossing Over with "21 Jump St" is a huge reach. It won't happen. Don't see Spielberg who's the executive producer of the franchise agreeing with it.

 

[Mowgli]

This makes Zero sense. "21/22 Jump St" is based in reality and "MIB" is a supernatural/Aliens type sh!t. Also MIB is based on a comicbook and "Jump St" is a tv show. This sounds desperate. It's very easy to reboot Men in Black if Will and Tommy don't want to come back. You either go back in time and bring Josh Brolin back and show some MIB adventures in the past. Or you bring in two new Agents "Letters". Crossing Over with "21 Jump St" is a huge reach. It won't happen. Don't see Spielberg who's the executive producer of the franchise agreeing with it.

Makes perfect sense, they're going to have will smith and tommy lee pass the torch to the 23 jumpstreet cast to reboot the series.

 

[BreezyH]

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