Sony was right to turn down EA

[dBoyFresh*212]

Sorry but this article is on some shyt

Who would cop this thinking they gonna get call of duty

half of gamestop customers don't know u could trade games their, what stops u from thinking ppl won't be callin customer service with retarded ass questions along the lines of that?

His other points make more sense tho if each publisher starts their own subscription based service then their gonna be in more control and imagine what DLC will cost . Plus look at da games getting pushed bak right now pretty much every game is getting delayed by least a year if publishers already have your money they what would stop then from being even more lazy? shyt would prolly get delYed extra 6 months.

Idk I think he makes good points but i don't fukk with sports games except 2k so nothing bout the ea shyt interests me (except bf)

 

[itsyoung!!]

half of gamestop customers don't know u could trade games their, what stops u from thinking ppl won't be callin customer service with retarded ass questions along the lines of that?

His other points make more sense tho if each publisher starts their own subscription based service then their gonna be in more control and imagine what DLC will cost . Plus look at da games getting pushed bak right now pretty much every game is getting delayed by least a year if publishers already have your money they what would stop then from being even more lazy? shyt would prolly get delYed extra 6 months.

Idk I think he makes good points but i don't fukk with sports games except 2k so nothing bout the ea shyt interests me (except bf)

I dont go into an Avengers or Iron Man film thinking ima see Batman

 

[dBoyFresh*212]

I dont go into an Avengers or Iron Man film thinking ima see Batman

Obviously that don't apply to gamers like us who on the forums reading news as it drops it apply to casual gamers

 

[itsyoung!!]

Obviously that don't apply to gamers like us who on the forums reading news as it drops it apply to casual gamers

Obviosuly that dont apply to movie goers like us who on the forums reading news/comics as it drops, it dont apply to the casual movie goer

 

[dBoyFresh*212]

Obviosuly that dont apply to movie goers like us who on the forums reading news/comics as it drops, it dont apply to the casual movie goer

Ok?

 

[DjMe]

Straight up, you're a f*cking idiot if you subscribe to this, I don't care if you own a playstation, xbox, wii, or a goddamn original gameboy.

This is a terrible business model that you should by no means be participating in: you're prepaying for a product that can only improve based on consumer response, thereby giving EA a free pass to never improve their games, and by proxy, hold onto their licenses (NFL) forever.

This is like saying, "damn, I really liked that Stephen King book I just read, I think I'm going to pay Stephen King 5$ a month to have access to his books." OK. Retard. What if his next book sucks. What if he just changes the names of his characters from book 1 to book 2. In a free market, no one would buy it, and it would be 1$ status in a week, and he would be forced to innovate and write a better book.

Now take that model and apply it to the notoriously lazy EA. You like Madden 15? I hope so, because that's all you're going to be playing for the next 5 years. Where's the incentive for EA to ever innovate if theyre getting their money up front??

You wouldn't pay your rent 6 months in advance, because if your stove breaks, what's the impetus for the landlord to come fix it?? There is none. EA is going to have no reason whatsoever to improve on their games if they can look at their forecast in January and see subscriptions are holding steady--repackage Madden 15 as Madden 17, design a cool graphic for the "EA Storefront", tell you that it's FREE! for EA subscribers, and you think you're getting a good deal.

Video games are literally the worst medium for such a subscription based plan.. I hope those with xboxes stay away from this in droves, because if this model catches on, say goodbye to innovation and progress in gaming.

Can't believe there are gamers excited to pay out to EA on some "I'm loyal, they deserve this "

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Straight up, you're a f*cking idiot if you subscribe to this, I don't care if you own a playstation, xbox, wii, or a goddamn original gameboy.

This is a terrible business model that you should by no means be participating in: you're prepaying for a product that can only improve based on consumer response, thereby giving EA a free pass to never improve their games, and by proxy, hold onto their licenses (NFL) forever.

This is like saying, "damn, I really liked that Stephen King book I just read, I think I'm going to pay Stephen King 5$ a month to have access to his books." OK. Retard. What if his next book sucks. What if he just changes the names of his characters from book 1 to book 2. In a free market, no one would buy it, and it would be 1$ status in a week, and he would be forced to innovate and write a better book.

Now take that model and apply it to the notoriously lazy EA. You like Madden 15? I hope so, because that's all you're going to be playing for the next 5 years. Where's the incentive for EA to ever innovate if theyre getting their money up front??

You wouldn't pay your rent 6 months in advance, because if your stove breaks, what's the impetus for the landlord to come fix it?? There is none. EA is going to have no reason whatsoever to improve on their games if they can look at their forecast in January and see subscriptions are holding steady--repackage Madden 15 as Madden 17, design a cool graphic for the "EA Storefront", tell you that it's FREE! for EA subscribers, and you think you're getting a good deal.

Video games are literally the worst medium for such a subscription based plan.. I hope those with xboxes stay away from this in droves, because if this model catches on, say goodbye to innovation and progress in gaming.

Can't believe there are gamers excited to pay out to EA on some "I'm loyal, they deserve this "

you do realize you can cancel your subscription right?

 

[MightyHealthy]

I think 2.50 a month for BF4 and Peggle 2 (plus last year's Madden and FIFA, as well as whatever they add to the vault) is a steal

 

[DjMe]

you do realize you can cancel your subscription right?

you do realize you're prepaying for consumer products in a free market economy right?

The value of the product you're prepaying for should be determined by it's quality, and thus, its sales. But you've conveniently decided to cut out that whole, messy "quality" part, and just give EA money up front. Because it seems like a good deal.

Why don't you go to your grocery store, tell the butcher you love steak, see if you can set up a system with him where you pay him 25$ a month to have access to fresh fillets. I mean, who doesn't like steak right? And if some bad cuts of meat come in, you can just cancel that plan at any time. And when he's the richest butcher in the city, and has shut down all the mom and pop butcher shops on the corner, you can just wait until he decides its time to give you fillet again, and reactivate your subscription.

Look man, I'm a republican too. But this is on some next-level, barcode on your neck type deal.

You don't need to pay EA a subscription fee.

Companies this large don't come out with business models like this because their analysts have forecast that it's going to be a great deal for the consumer. This isn't a "buy 10 coffees get the 11th one free" from your local coffee shop. They have calculated that a certain percentage of gamers only spends (let's say) 20$ on EA products a year, usually preowned. They're going to get them paying 60$ a year now. For some people (20% or less of their install base) this is going to be a good deal. For the others, they will lose money under the guise of saving money.

Other big publishers will take note.

You think these companies don't see that people are willing to pay 100$+ a month for their cell phone?

You think these companies aren't trying to come up with ways to get you to pay 100$+ a month to play video games?

Keep giving away your right to game though, and throw around the Jackie Chan smileys like your gonna get some daps and laughs.

Courtdogs probably in here turning this into a XBOX v PS4 thread too.

Same gang of idiots that don't understand how the real world works, arguing amongst themselves under the guise of a console war.

Sad thing is, when I started posting on back in the day, video games were free to play, just had to buy your games and trade them with your friends.

Now I'm arguing with young kids talking about how they're honored to be able to cancel their EA subscription at any time, like they control the medium and the decisions they're making with their property.

So you cancel your subscription. OK. What happens to that game of madden you had downloaded and loved. Think youll still get to play it?

Moron.

 

[Rekkapryde]

you do realize you're prepaying for consumer products in a free market economy right?

The value of the product you're prepaying for should be determined by it's quality, and thus, its sales. But you've conveniently decided to cut out that whole, messy "quality" part, and just give EA money up front. Because it seems like a good deal.

Why don't you go to your grocery store, tell the butcher you love steak, see if you can set up a system with him where you pay him 25$ a month to have access to fresh fillets. I mean, who doesn't like steak right? And if some bad cuts of meat come in, you can just cancel that plan at any time. And when he's the richest butcher in the city, and has shut down all the mom and pop butcher shops on the corner, you can just wait until he decides its time to give you fillet again, and reactivate your subscription.

Look man, I'm a republican too. But this is on some next-level, barcode on your neck type deal.

You don't need to pay EA a subscription fee.

Companies this large don't come out with business models like this because their analysts have forecast that it's going to be a great deal for the consumer. This isn't a "buy 10 coffees get the 11th one free" from your local coffee shop. They have calculated that a certain percentage of gamers only spends (let's say) 20$ on EA products a year, usually preowned. They're going to get them paying 60$ a year now. For some people (20% or less of their install base) this is going to be a good deal. For the others, they will lose money under the guise of saving money.

Other big publishers will take note.

You think these companies don't see that people are willing to pay 100$+ a month for their cell phone?

You think these companies aren't trying to come up with ways to get you to pay 100$+ a month to play video games?

Keep giving away your right to game though, and throw around the Jackie Chan smileys like your gonna get some daps and laughs.

Courtdogs probably in here turning this into a XBOX v PS4 thread too.

Same gang of idiots that don't understand how the real world works, arguing amongst themselves under the guise of a console war.

Sad thing is, when I started posting on back in the day, video games were free to play, just had to buy your games and trade them with your friends.

Now I'm arguing with young kids talking about how they're honored to be able to cancel their EA subscription at any time, like they control the medium and the decisions they're making with their property.

So you cancel your subscription. OK. What happens to that game of madden you had downloaded and loved. Think youll still get to play it?

Moron.

When you open pandora's box......

 

[MeachTheMonster]

you do realize you're prepaying for consumer products in a free market economy right?

The value of the product you're prepaying for should be determined by it's quality, and thus, its sales. But you've conveniently decided to cut out that whole, messy "quality" part, and just give EA money up front. Because it seems like a good deal.

Why don't you go to your grocery store, tell the butcher you love steak, see if you can set up a system with him where you pay him 25$ a month to have access to fresh fillets. I mean, who doesn't like steak right? And if some bad cuts of meat come in, you can just cancel that plan at any time. And when he's the richest butcher in the city, and has shut down all the mom and pop butcher shops on the corner, you can just wait until he decides its time to give you fillet again, and reactivate your subscription.

Look man, I'm a republican too. But this is on some next-level, barcode on your neck type deal.

You don't need to pay EA a subscription fee.

Companies this large don't come out with business models like this because their analysts have forecast that it's going to be a great deal for the consumer. This isn't a "buy 10 coffees get the 11th one free" from your local coffee shop. They have calculated that a certain percentage of gamers only spends (let's say) 20$ on EA products a year, usually preowned. They're going to get them paying 60$ a year now. For some people (20% or less of their install base) this is going to be a good deal. For the others, they will lose money under the guise of saving money.

Other big publishers will take note.

You think these companies don't see that people are willing to pay 100$+ a month for their cell phone?

You think these companies aren't trying to come up with ways to get you to pay 100$+ a month to play video games?

Keep giving away your right to game though, and throw around the Jackie Chan smileys like your gonna get some daps and laughs.

Courtdogs probably in here turning this into a XBOX v PS4 thread too.

Same gang of idiots that don't understand how the real world works, arguing amongst themselves under the guise of a console war.

Sad thing is, when I started posting on back in the day, video games were free to play, just had to buy your games and trade them with your friends.

Now I'm arguing with young kids talking about how they're honored to be able to cancel their EA subscription at any time, like they control the medium and the decisions they're making with their property.

So you cancel your subscription. OK. What happens to that game of madden you had downloaded and loved. Think youll still get to play it?

Moron.

the fukk are you talking about.

Your not prepaying for anything. There's 4 games available if you bought them separately it would cost about $150. Instead you have the choice to rent the digital rights for $30 for a year.(Not the $60 you claimed)How is this "Throwing my rights away to game" ?

There have been game rental and subscription services for a long time. Why don't programs like, Gamefly, PS+ and PSnow get such harsh criticisms from you? And @Rekkac00n


And I actually do participate in a pr-pay program for food and its amazing. I get fresh local and organic food for much cheaper than at the grocery store.
http://freshforkmarket.com/

These types of business models exist and can be very advantageous to the smart consumer. The dumb consumer is gonna throw money away anyway.

And at your little rant about back in the day and arguing with kids and morons.

You've only proven that you are the immature and misinformed one

 

[DjMe]

You've only proven that you are the immature and misinformed one

I'm not going to get into an argument about making smart decisions with money, with someone who prepays for their food.

I'm sure your local grocer loves you, I just hope they're as nice to you when they're fukking you up the ass as your daddy was before even he thought you were too stupid to be worth sticking around for.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I'm not going to get into an argument about making smart decisions with money, with someone who prepays for their food.

I'm sure your local grocer loves you, I just hope they're as nice to you when they're fukking you up the ass as your daddy was before even he thought you were too stupid to be worth sticking around for.

So you realized how stupid your argument was and resorted to personal attacks

 

[winb83]

Word, I can understand that viewpoint.

shyt would be fukked if all the major publishers did that, at the same time though, you gotta know what you're signing up for. Alot of people aren't THAT dense.

its just another option. i see nothing wrong with having the option.

 

[DjMe]

So you realized how stupid your argument was and resorted to personal attacks

I actually would rather not get into personal attacks and would rather help you, because this is beyond console wars.

google "the value of money" and read up on it.

The long and short of it, (and any financial adviser could tell you this) is that you need to make your money work for you, not someone else. Prepaying is never going to get you value you for your money, it's giving another company, (or grocer, in your case) money to play with.

It's why you should always aim to pay money at tax time, rather than get a refund.
It's why you shouldn't have a savings account if you have any debt whatsoever.

So for you, do you have student loans? credit card debt? a car payment? a mortgage?
Let's say you have a car payment with an outstanding balance of 1000$, to use nice round numbers. If you're paying (let's be generous) 6% interest on that... your annual interest on that car is going to be 60$. Extrapolate that over all of your debt, spread out across (what im assuming is more money, and higher interest rates), and you're paying out a lot of money to interest.

These companies then come out with offers that make it seem like youre saving money... "hey if i subscribe to EA upfront, ill save 50-100$ this year!" Great deal, right? wrong. Because if you take, even that 30$, and pay it towards a credit card you owe money on, its going to lower the balance, and thus the amount youre paying interest on. But you need to do that with all your money all the time for it to make a difference.

Issues like this are tricky. Are you fiscally responsible enough for this EA deal to be worth it? maybe. a certain percentage of individuals will be. But the vast vast vast majority of American adults can not manage their money and do not understand the value of money. That is why scams like this always work. EA collects hundreds of millions of dollars from consumers too stupid to realize what theyre doing. EA could take that money and put it in a damn savings account and even at return rates of .0003% make more money than any of us will see in a lifetime.

You're essentially giving out an interest free corporate loan. You're paying EA upfront to rent video games that you will never own. Why?

The reason why it's different than netflix or gamefly is because EA is making a product, not offering a service. And the valuation of an EA product is (should) be based on sales. So if they put out Madden 18, and it's the same engine as Madden 15, and they ask 60$ and no one buys it, that garbage is going to be 10$ value bin status before preseason is even over. But in this case, there is no pressure on them as a developer to innovate and make better games. People are paying upfront, EA can do whatever they want. You having a netflix or gamefly account doesnt dictate the quality of future itterations of, let's say, final fantasy. Thats up to Squenix to say "damn, people are getting sick of lightening, maybe ff13-3 isn't a good idea".

Come on man, you must be understanding this?