Sounds like there's a terrorist attack in Paris

[Farrinto]

But no one's saying that every single Muslim walking this earth is a terrorist though.

 

[无名的]

I have always thought this kind of attack was more likely because of it's practicality. All you need is guns and a public space. It's a rather easy operation to accomplish.

So many guns in American and so many open spaces.



RIP to the dead.

Muslims in Europe are in for a world of hurt.

The West needs to rethink our policy towards the Middle East.

I said this a long time ago and someone on here said they were going to report me to the FBI for thinking like this



What's shocking is this isn't happening more. I thought a long time ago how silly it seemed to try to make a big splash by concocting long term complex plans that involve shyt like learning to fly plane... so many guns in America. All it takes is a group of these dumb fukks to grab their AKs and go into a mall on Black Friday just like it happened in Africa not too long ago.

Not a matter of if but when in the US.

Keep your eyes open, brehs.

 

[714562]

weak cop out on your end, then every white man is racist rapist of cultures, every european is a pedo, every arab is a terrorist. So we can say Western culture is the problem for racism, and pedos right?

Pedophilia is not an ideology.

And yes, we can and frequently do say Western culture is part of the problem with racism.

there are 1.7 billion muslims, of them, lets say .02% are devils in the flesh who do stuff like this, of that .02% they can gather the resources to do these things. Colombias population is nowhere near 1 billion, Im sure they have people that would love to do things like this, a much smaller number, because the group is smaller, and of the smaller number they dont have the resources

First of all, we don't need to do the "let's say .02%" game. The number of sympathizers (if not outright terrorists) is much higher.

Islam: the statistics

Second of all. .02% of the Columbian population is about 10,000 people. Not a trivial number. And why stop there? Why not combine the population of all the wronged Hispanic countries in the Western hemisphere. All the communist countries, for example.

that is very relevant, how can you not understand, a muslim tries to include their religion in everything, even when acing in a manner that is not permitted in Islam.

No, it's absolutely irrelevant. And frankly it's a much bigger cop-out than bringing up the Scotsman fallacy.

Both sides can be held accountable here.

Then hold them both accountable.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

I have no fear in acknowledging that. But horrible things also happen in other countries, perhaps even more as a result of imperialism. So . . . why no Colombian or Venezuelan terror attacks in Florida?

Colombia and Venezuela don't have a prophet who told them to fight the infidel everywhere.

But this has nothing to do with Islam as an ideology that guides peoples decisions.
It's just a small group of Muslims.
Supported by a more substantial group of Muslims.
Condoned by a significant percentage of Muslims.
And justified by common interpretations of the Q'u'r'a'n and the history of Muhammad (PBUH) warring against non-Muslims.
Nothing to do with Islam, though. NOTHING.

Seriously, France is lost. They set themselves up for this and will now pay for it.

Yes, they set themselves up. They invented a time machine and taught Muhammad (PBUH) to wage war to spread Islam.

defending" Islam is actually the only reason Muslims can actually engage in war, with whatever tactics they have.

They were "defending" themselves when they were an expansionist empire.

They "defended" their way across the Middle East.

They "defended" their way across Africa.

And now they're "defending" into Europe.





Just admit it, my Islamical breh. We believe God gives us the right to conquer the infidels and convert them to Islam.

 

[50CentStan]

Pedophilia is not an ideology.

And yes, we can and frequently do say Western culture is part of the problem with racism.





First of all, we don't need to do the "let's say .02%" game. The number of sympathizers (if not outright terrorists) is much higher.

Islam: the statistics

Second of all. .02% of the Columbian population is about 10,000 people. Not a trivial number. And why stop there? Why not combine the population of all the wronged Hispanic countries in the Western hemisphere. All the communist countries, for example.



No, it's absolutely irrelevant. And frankly it's a much bigger cop-out than bringing up the Scotsman fallacy.



Then hold them both accountable.

I'm going to answer you last statement, and that should suffice for everything. Hold who accountable? 1. The governments attacking those places, innocent civilians here have nothing to do with 2. The people attacking innocent civilians, that vast majority of muslims have nothing to do with it. So again, by blaming Islam you blame every muslim, every muslim is not the problem. Your idea of "islam is the problem" is false. Im dont talking about this, people die, but the living rather focus on who we can blame and discriminate.

btw im not looking at your stats posted, because anyone with an agenda can create bs stats by asking groups they know what kind of answer they would receive, or asking questions that would sway the stats to what they want. and most people that dislike Islam never have a personal story about a muslim they know being anything like the image of muslims thats portrayed in the media.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

how bad though?

It's a terrible thread because for some reason TLR posters believe that A) France is all white so "who cares" forgetting that there are 2 million blacks in France and people on this board who live in Paris and have family there and B) It's somehow only cacs who have committed mass atrocities on black people but again forgetting that a situation like this is usually more about ideology and terrorists could not give a fukk what your race is and Muslim extremists have committed the same types of atrocities on black people as well.

 

[714562]

Hold who accountable? 1. The governments attacking those places, innocent civilians here have nothing to do with

Are there not significant elements of Western society which hold themselves accountable for allowing jingoistic govt's to be voted in? If someone walks up to you and says they're voting for a clearly Islamophobic candidate for ideological reasons, doesn't that person's ideology deserve some blame?

Governments and terrorist groups alike are supported by ideology.

The people attacking innocent civilians, that vast majority of muslims have nothing to do with it. So again, by blaming Islam you blame every muslim, every muslim is not the problem. Your idea of "islam is the problem" is false. Im dont talking about this, people die, but the living rather focus on who we can blame and discriminate.

I'm not telling you to blame specific people and that's what you're not understanding. I'm telling you to accept that the underlying ideology is a significant part of the problem.

btw im not looking at your stats posted, because anyone with an agenda can create bs stats by asking groups they know what kind of answer they would receive, or asking questions that would sway the stats to what they want. and most people that dislike Islam never have a personal story about a muslim they know being anything like the image of muslims thats portrayed in the media.

The stats were taken from Muslim respondents in Muslim countries and collected by Pew. They happen to be very evenhanded and even suggest that most Muslims favor democracy, but with Islamic characteristics. Do you though.

EDIT: In fact, I find it very strange that you admitted "both sides deserve blame" and then asked me "blame who?"

 

[Dr. Sebi Jr.]

the underlying ideology is a significant part of the problem.

No it's not.
Don't actually examine the ideology, especially not critically.

 

[blackzeus]

At what point do you admit you can't be tolerant towards Muslims. Their way of life is not compatible with the West. You want to live here, gotta reject Allah, plain and simple

 

[PewPew]

All those refugees are fukked. This is a perfect excuse for every country with a center-right gov't, or even just an influential right wing, to reject them.

Sounds like some Trojan horse shyt to me. I'm sure more than a few terriosts snuck in too

 

[The War Report]

shyt is really going to hit the fan for Muslims in Europe, France in particular. This is fuel for the far right there.

 

[Type Username Here]

Would you rather they let millions of refugees die or be confined to abject poverty?

False choice.

I'm for immigration and I'm for asylum, and I'm for reducing poverty. But there is a systemic issue in Europe with Islamic immigrants there that we don't really see here in the US and Canada.

Also, Europe took a bulk of the refugees while the Islamic countries scoffed at the idea, especially the Gulf States. Why does Europe have to be guilted into taking refugees from a Sunni and Shia proxy war?

 

[the cac mamba]

So now that there's no humor magazine to deflect blame onto, can we just say Islam is part of the problem? I mean, just part of the problem. Not even the whole problem. It's not the whole problem.

EDIT: I just got some and I guess I haven't read anything from a reputable source that says Muslims did it. Who's responsible?

of course its part of the problem

these men are convinced that this savagery is going to be rewarded by a being in the sky

we gonna act like that doesnt have an encouraging effect on these attacks?

 

[Colilluminati]

They are mentally ill right?