Sources: Phillies' Bryce Harper cussed out Rob Manfred in meeting

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Salary cap works in every other American professional league, but Baseball fans vehemently oppose the salary because of a weird desire to stick it to the (small market) owners.

Owners and players think about everyone but the common fan. Think about what’s best about the future of the game.

Baseball is an every day sport for 6 months straight. It’s not like football where you tune in just one day a week. It’s also not a sport where fans largely tune in to see out of market teams they aren’t a fan of. You need the big market teams to work as a draw when they go on the road as well.

 

[VegetasHairline]

Salary cap works in every other American professional league, but Baseball fans vehemently oppose the salary because of a weird desire to stick it to the (small market) owners.

Owners and players think about everyone but the common fan. Think about what’s best about the future of the game.

Why does baseball need to be like every other sport and have a cap?

Future of the game? The sport of baseball has been around longer than football and basketball.

No other sport is playing 162 games either.

 

[VegetasHairline]

A salary floor or the threat of relegation might. @Cladyclad a couple months back I was listening to Michael Kay and Paul O’Neill call a game while the Yankees were in Pittsburgh and they mentioned that the last time the pirates signed a free agent player to a contract longer than 1 year was Ivan Nova in 2016. A few years ago the A’s went into the season with a lower payroll than they had in 1991. After the 2022 deadline they had 0 players under contract for 2023. I think Eric Chavez is still the largest deal they’ve given out. The marlins across 3-4 owners have done nothing but cry poverty and bilk the city of Miami out of several billion for the past 27 years. The problem is the owners not wanting to spend and there being no penalty for it. Jerry reinsdorf for another example owns 2 sports teams in Chicago. He doesn’t need a salary cap to be able to compete.

Luis Severino just got the biggest guaranteed contract from any A's player ever and that was only $67 million over 3 years.

 

[concise]

No it doesn't. A cap isn't gonna force teams like the A's and Pirates to spend money.

Maybe some of those teams need to be contracted?

 

[VegetasHairline]

Maybe some of those teams need to be contracted?

Why should those teams fans and city suffer because of cheap owners?

 

[Big Boss]

 

[Spidey Man]

fukk the owners. I hope the players stand on business. A salary cap is useless without a floor, and half the league still won't spend even if you manage to cut salaries. The league needs to fix Pittsburgh, Sacramento, Cincinnati, Miami, Tampa, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Chicago and Minnesota before they try and destroy player salaries.

Not even owner can be Cohen, but they are all billionaires and make so much money off being cheap they refuse to open the books.

 

[Dipsey Doo]

Baseball is an every day sport for 6 months straight. It’s not like football where you tune in just one day a week. It’s also not a sport where fans largely tune in to see out of market teams they aren’t a fan of. You need the big market teams to work as a draw when they go on the road as well.

If you are a young fan in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, Tampa Bay or Cleveland what compels you to care about MLB in 2025? To watch the Dodgers, Yankees, Astros, Phillies and Mets outspend the other? Maybe you get lucky and the stars align and your team has a 2-3 year window of contention before the big market teams start picking your core apart and the cycle of misery starts again.

Players and owners both take for granted the real life blood of the sport: the common fan.

Yes the big market teams are needed to draw fans, but salting the earth in the small market is just as shortsighted.

The economic system in baseball needs to be overhauled to help competitive balance. The Dodgers have such an overwhelming advantage over the small markets it’s comical. If that means making the owners spend to a certain level or the players capping future earnings, something has to be done.

 

[Blessings]

Salary cap works in every other American professional league, but Baseball fans vehemently oppose the salary because of a weird desire to stick it to the (small market) owners.

Owners and players think about everyone but the common fan. Think about what’s best about the future of the game.

How is a salary cap “best for the game”?

 

[The God Poster]

I’m pro players. But baseball needs a cap with a salary floor

one guy should not be making more than like 5 teams

they also need shorter contracts. 13 year deals is crazy

Why?

 

[Blessings]

If you are a young fan in Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Kansas City, Tampa Bay or Cleveland what compels you to care about MLB in 2025? To watch the Dodgers, Yankees, Astros, Phillies and Mets outspend the other? Maybe you get lucky and the stars align and your team has a 2-3 year window of contention before the big market teams start picking your core apart and the cycle of misery starts again.

Players and owners both take for granted the real life blood of the sport: the common fan.

Yes the big market teams are needed to draw fans, but salting the earth in the small market is just as shortsighted.

The economic system in baseball needs to be overhauled to help competitive balance. The Dodgers have such an overwhelming advantage over the small markets it’s comical. If that means making the owners spend to a certain level or the players capping future earnings, something has to be done.

The only solution is relegation or anything that’s loss of significant revenue for those teams not trying to win.

 

[concise]

Why should those teams fans and city suffer because of cheap owners?

How many owners have the Marlins had over the years, doing the same things? Pirates? Athletics?

If nothing will force those teams to spend money, maybe they don't need to be around. Better to lose a team than to be played with by some billionaire for tax breaks, new stadiums, etc and they just pocket all the money.

 

[Cladyclad]

Why?

the shyt is disheartening to those teams fanbases. It’s stupid. It’s not good for the sport

 

[VegetasHairline]

How many owners have the Marlins had over the years, doing the same things? Pirates? Athletics?

If nothing will force those teams to spend money, maybe they don't need to be around. Better to lose a team than to be played with by some billionaire for tax breaks, new stadiums, etc and they just pocket all the money.

Fans shouldn't suffer because of owners. You'll never change my mind.

The A's and Marlins have been successful despite their owners too. Oakland should still have the A's. The Marline have won multiple championships. Pirates are just in a class of their own but that city deserves their team.

 

[VegetasHairline]

the shyt is disheartening to those teams fanbases. It’s stupid. It’s not good for the sport

How would you know? Do you support a small market baseball team?