If the owners want to put in a salary cap then they need to significantly increase the salary floor. If they do that, then this entire conversation gets interesting. It may even cause in-fighting amongst the players union 
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The Pirates have an $88 mil payroll and are still reportedly trying to make moves to shed salary at the deadline. They also have not signed a free agent from another team to a multi year deal since 2016 and coincidentally haven’t played in a NLCS since 1992.
Does that sound like a team that cares about competing? Does that sound like a team that thinks about their common fan?
There’s no way you can tell me that the Dodgers are worse for the game than this.
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People really think a salary floor and salary cap is gonna magically solve this too.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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2 playoff appearances since 1993. It’s openly being acknowledged that they’re going to eventually trade their best player because everyone knows they’re not going to pay him. Nobody can credibly say the pirates as they operate are not bad for baseball. A few years ago the reds held a fire sale and basically told the fans to change the channel if they weren’t happy. I’m supposed to think that teams like the Mets or dodgers are the ones hurting the sport though?
People really think a salary floor and salary cap is gonna magically solve this too.
You literally see it in sports where there is a cap. Cheap owners that are only worried about maximizing profits will always find excuses to cut corners.
VegetasHairline
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Look what your Celtics had to do this off-season. Of course Tatum's injury played a huge part. Imagine something similar in baseball.
Look what your Celtics had to do this off-season. Of course Tatum's injury played a huge part. Imagine something similar in baseball.
Yep and those teams that were in those negotiations complaining about the Clippers, Warriors, Suns, etc. spending too much on payroll, guess what they’re not gonna do? Increase theirs
A team that already avoided the luxury tax like the plague is still gonna do that
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
Look what your Celtics had to do this off-season. Of course Tatum's injury played a huge part. Imagine something similar in baseball.
A salary cap broke up the 2002 buccaneers, 2000 and 2006 ravens, and 2012-15 Seahawks defenses when they still had plenty left in the tank. Pat Riley was left unable to rebuild the Heat bench after the 2013 title because of the cap and he’s been unable to sign a legit #1 guy in recent years because of it since if you’re paying a solid team you probably don’t have the space for a top guy to get that team to a title which incentivizes tanking. It runs contradictory to the very premise of team sports.
Facts...baseball fans hate the actual players. They would rather defend the team and billionaire owners.
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
I’m here for the scraps
This is American sports fans in general. The same conversations were had during the nfl lockout in 2011 despite the players getting way less money while playing a much more violent sport with far shorter careers and no guaranteed money and it was right after the lawsuit began over the owners burying the findings about cte to try preventing lawsuits for that whole thing.
America in general tbh
It’s almost disturbing the amount of ppl who side with companies in labor disputes, even for “regular” jobs
It’s not just about a salary cap and floor.
I understand you want both.
But a key driver here is whether ownership opens their financials.
You cannot say “this is the cap based on revenue”
And when the players ask “well let us see the revenue to verify it”
The owners can’t just say “no. Trust me bro”
This matters a lot here.
I understand you want both.
But a key driver here is whether ownership opens their financials.
You cannot say “this is the cap based on revenue”
And when the players ask “well let us see the revenue to verify it”
The owners can’t just say “no. Trust me bro”
This matters a lot here.
I really have a gut feeling that a strike is incoming. This year so far hasn't been too keen on the MLB. Bryce always been with the shyts though, and gave us this fire moment that lives rent free in the marsupial's mindframe: