South Korean government proposes increase in work week to 69 hours from 52

[thelonious21]

I'm convinced the leadership in each country are secretly robots...it's amazing how out of touch they are with the human experience. Yeah...more work will lead to healthier family life...not spending more time with them. Spending more time with your boss

Work MORE... in turn you get more time with your family by "banking" time .

So work en extra 17 hrs per week and NEXT YEAR you can spend more time


But let's even start at that 52 hour week..

10.5 hours a day?

 

[thelonious21]

Many responses are acting like it’s going from a standard 52 hour work week to a standard 69 hour work week. That’s not the case.

Korea caps hours at 40 standard up to 12 for OT.

This new rule allows 40 standard and up to 29 for OT on a given week, but the average still must be no more than 52 (it’s more complicated than that, but I’m not rewriting the whole article). This gives employees more flexibility so they can work more continuously and in turn take more continuous time off to be with their families.

But apparently they don't have enough time in the first place though

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

They were at 52 to begin with?

52 max
40 hours regular
12 overtime

Title is clickbait

 

[levitate]

bytch, please…

 

[Second Chance Lance]

People in here calling other people idiots is foolish.

If you work 69 hours in a week, you don't get the hours back, you still have to work 40 hours next week.

You don't get to choose to take 29 hours the next week, specially if the company need you and most companies lie about letting you take comp time.

 

[Diondon]

Are they building railroads the fukk?

 

[num123]

Many responses are acting like it’s going from a standard 52 hour work week to a standard 69 hour work week. That’s not the case.

Korea caps hours at 40 standard up to 12 for OT.

This new rule allows 40 standard and up to 29 for OT on a given week, but the average still must be no more than 52 (it’s more complicated than that, but I’m not rewriting the whole article). This gives employees more flexibility so they can work more continuously and in turn take more continuous time off to be with their families.

Problem is expectations vs reality. People generally do not want to work over time for long periods of time even with pay. Hell they just 5 years ago reduced the working week from 68 to 52:

South Korea cuts 'inhumanely long' 68-hour working week

President introduces 52-hour work week to help improve quality of life and boost birth rates

www.theguardian.com

Also who cares about an "average" of 52 when you are doing up to 29 hours overtime in a given week.

For counting periods of a month or longer, up to 29 hours a week of overtime would be allowed, for a total of 69 work hours in one week. Overtime could be exchanged later for time off at a rate that has not been announced.

From the employers side, which overtime options do you think they will be pushing the most?

Also you are not factoring in Asian work cultures like SK and Japan where people stay at work longer off the books because their supervisor/boss has not left yet, or mandatory after work get togethers that conveniently do not get counted as overtime. There is still a big problem with the unpaid and time wasting activities:

Young South Koreans are fighting against the return of hoesik — 'compulsory' after-work and weekend gatherings — as COVID-19 restrictions ease

South Korea's young workers are dreading returning to work and partaking in a long-standing office culture that encourages spending unpaid time with your coworkers.

www.insider.com

South Korea's work culture: Slog till you drop – DW – 02/26/2019

Working hard is a cardinal virtue in the country. Many people do a lot of overtime for no extra pay, regularly exceeding the legal limit of 52 hours a week. The physical and emotional costs can be high.

www.dw.com

So in the end, although it may look fine, when you add it with all of the other shyt employees deal with, it is not that attractive.

 

[richaveli83]

Them Koreans go HAM, even moreso than the US when it comes to workers' rights and corporate interest.

Any talk about unions is portrayed through the lens of "communist sentiment" and subsequently crushed in violent manner.

Not that I condone it but I kind of understand their fear of "communist sentiment" or anything that might resemble "socialism." They're technically still at war with North Korea, the North has nukes and tons of rockets that could level Seoul, and an insane dictatorship.

Again I don't condone it but I understand their paranoia even if I don't agree with it.

 

[No1]

Sounds like one of those "you don't HAVE to work more, but it would be a lot better if you did " type deals

That’s literally not what it says. Their current mode tops the hours you can work in a week at 52. They’re proposing increasing the cap so you can work more in a week but then have more time off the following for example. Ultimately, you’re still not allowed to go past a certain amount of hours in a month. Like I said, this is no different than firefighters having weeks where they work 80 and then another week where they work like 20.

Problem is expectations vs reality. People generally do not want to work over time for long periods of time even with pay. Hell they just 5 years ago reduced the working week from 68 to 52:

South Korea cuts 'inhumanely long' 68-hour working week

President introduces 52-hour work week to help improve quality of life and boost birth rates

www.theguardian.com

Also who cares about an "average" of 52 when you are doing up to 29 hours overtime in a given week.



From the employers side, which overtime options do you think they will be pushing the most?

Also you are not factoring in Asian work cultures like SK and Japan where people stay at work longer off the books because their supervisor/boss has not left yet, or mandatory after work get togethers that conveniently do not get counted as overtime. There is still a big problem with the unpaid and time wasting activities:

Young South Koreans are fighting against the return of hoesik — 'compulsory' after-work and weekend gatherings — as COVID-19 restrictions ease

South Korea's young workers are dreading returning to work and partaking in a long-standing office culture that encourages spending unpaid time with your coworkers.

www.insider.com

South Korea's work culture: Slog till you drop – DW – 02/26/2019

Working hard is a cardinal virtue in the country. Many people do a lot of overtime for no extra pay, regularly exceeding the legal limit of 52 hours a week. The physical and emotional costs can be high.

www.dw.com

So in the end, although it may look fine, when you add it with all of the other shyt employees deal with, it is not that attractive.

Nothing you said has anything to do with the thread title being false.

 

[num123]

That’s literally not what it says. Their current mode tops the hours you can work in a week at 52. They’re proposing increasing the cap so you can work more in a week but then have more time off the following for example. Ultimately, you’re still not allowed to go past a certain amount of hours in a month. Like I said, this is no different than firefighters having weeks where they work 80 and then another week where they work like 20.

Nothing you said has anything to do with the thread title being false.

Huh? I did not say anything about the title being false.

 

[MajesticLion]

Burning the candle at both ends and in the middle is a good way to end up with no damn candle in a hurry.

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

No wonder they don't want to have kids over there

That and suicide cases. Overwork your citizens and expect high morale krehs

 

[Orbital-Fetus]

Sound like something North Korea would do.

NK has labor camps where they work 24/7 365 until you