Spanking doesn’t improve a child’s behavior or social competence -- it can make behavior worse.

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If spanking isn’t effective why is that their method of behavior correction as a society. What do the cops do when you don’t follow the society’s rules?

So you think the regions with the most violent cops will show reductions in crime? :skip:


Pretty sure American society is a living breathing example of the exact opposite. :francis:
 

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Corporal punishment in schools and such was outlawed in China in 1986. It's violated constantly of course, especially in rural areas and low-income neighborhoods, but they're working harder to put an end to it and are passing a new and stricter law this year. Parents aren't even going to be allowed to hit their own kids.

They will join the 62 countries now that already ban corporal punishment

Quick question you ever live in China?
 

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Spare the rod spoil the child. That shyt is in the bible. If God is telling me to whoop my child, who the fukk is man to tell me im wrong.
 

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as long as you're not just hitting your child over every little thing like spilled milk.

the times i got hit, i deserved it, i did a couple of wild shyt when i was kid and deserved that ass whooping. lets just say I never threw glass at people ever again. :russ:
 

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Spare the rod spoil the child. That shyt is in the bible. If God is telling me to whoop my child, who the fukk is man to tell me im wrong.
so you following everything in the bible or do you pick and choose?

Plus the bible is a fictional book
 

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Nothing works on every child .nikkas acting like one universal approach works on all children are fooling themselves .

Some kids would straighten the fukk up from a conversation or just seeing the fact they embarrassed their parents.

Some kids would laugh if they only got a speech after doing some stupid shyt.


Some kids respond to conversations m, some kids only respond to force …..just like adults
 

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lets keep it real, there are spankings, whuppings and abuse.

My mother spanked for some stuff we did.....ate them things like scooby snacks :mjlit:

My father whupped me once in my life for stealing and broke it down that he was raising no criminal in his house.

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:sadcam: If I found a wallet with $1k in it, I'm not even taking out $1 :russ::russ:
Exactly these filty cacs think they smart. But there's a difference between corrective spanking/whopping and abuse.
 
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The adage “if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail” is appropriate here. You need to look at consequences as tools to teach not tools to punish…on my tool belt I have:
  1. Talk, with normal tone of voice
  2. Talk, with bass in voice
  3. Yell, with normal tone of voice
  4. Yell, staccato with bass in voice
  5. Limit access to toy, game, activity, friends, playtime outside
  6. Spanking
I use these progressively so if he…

Plays with toys on the coffee table in the living room: 1 > 2 > 5 (this will never progress to spanking)
Running around stove while food is cooking: 2 > 4 > 6
Not doing homework: 1 > 2 > 5
Hitting his Mom: 6
Hitting women in his family: 2 > 6


Communicating Thoughts
Talking is used to communicate a rule or a desired behavior
Yelling is used to get his attention
Bass is used to convey seriousness/urgency

Consequences
Limiting access is to show how bad behavior/lack of focus/lack of following rules translates into an undesirable state of being.
Spanking is the escalation for yelling…if aural stimulation isn’t a catalyst for the child to slow down and course correct we progress to physical stimulation.
This always worked when I was bad
 

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I don't really care what ya'll do with your kids. And i don't care if you approve of my parenting methods. TYou also try to tell how to dress our kids, how to feed our kids, how to talk to our kids, pretty much have an opinion on every aspect of raising our kids. first help me pay for birthday and christmas presents, tuition and school books. then i might consider your advice
This
 

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Why you think it will be necessary up until five?

My daughter is about to turn 3. We still don't spank her. I'm really happy with how she's growing up so far. With little kids its easy cause there's only so much trouble they can get into and you can always physically control them just by picking them up when necessary. She's slowly developing the understanding of right and wrong and we're working to instill why things are right and wrong rather than just dealing out beatings as an arbitrary punishment. If she does the right thing because she's afraid of getting beat, then she'll just do the wrong thing when we ain't around to beat her. If she does the right thing cause she understands why it's the right thing, she'll actually act like a good person whether someone is around to beat her or not.

I think that helping them learn the difference between right and wrong (and not just the difference between getting beat or not beat) is especially crucial in those early years when you still have complete control cause it sets them up for the whole rest of their life.




Yup.

yes the brain is still forming. But explaining to a child why at 1-4 doesnt make sense to me.

I view discipline as course correction, not punishment. Far too many kids IMO havent been hit enough, just like adults who haven't been punched before.

I can always tell the type because they interact with the world/others in nasty ways without fear of consequence.

Spanking isn't a first step, but I believe it teaches authority. And that is key early in life. Your kid needs to know you and then are not the same. And im of the belief (however baseless) that if you do it correctly early on. You wont need to spank your kids beyond being super young
 
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