Spike Lee - She's Got To Have It (Netflix Series)

[mson]

Haven't watched this through all the way but it's kinda trash for me.

The characters for young people in Spike films feel less and less like real people and more like vehicles of whatever plot point or theme. Felt the same way with Chiraq. The people in this show literally feel like they were gleaned from caricatures of certain types of Twitter/Tumblr users.

None of her three dudes were written realistically. Outside of Jamie most of them are thematic props for Nola who is a terribly written thematic plot device herself. Insecure managed to be good because of the self reflection and growth of the characters, sometimes it just stumbled on the episode to episode themes. (For example the gentrification episode) This show is the opposite, its wears the skin of Insecure and loudly shouts (but poorly executes) it's themes yet is lacking the life inside the insecure universe. People liked insecure for their down to earth characterization, Nola makes you wonder how anybody can tolerate her presence but everyone is vying for spots in her life.

I'm sure this will be uncriticizeable among the Film Room Moist Boy Brigade for the feminist virtue signaling. You folks are very easy to please

What are you talking about?

 

[Kenny West]

What are you talking about?

Problem?

 

[Jone2three45]

Haven't watched this through all the way but it's kinda trash for me.

The characters for young people in Spike films feel less and less like real people and more like vehicles of whatever plot point or theme. Felt the same way with Chiraq. The people in this show literally feel like they were gleaned from caricatures of certain types of Twitter/Tumblr users.

None of her three dudes were written realistically. Outside of Jamie most of them are thematic props for Nola who is a terribly written thematic plot device herself. Insecure managed to be good because of the self reflection and growth of the characters, sometimes it just stumbled on the episode to episode themes. (For example the gentrification episode) This show is the opposite, its wears the skin of Insecure and loudly shouts (but poorly executes) it's themes yet is lacking the life inside the insecure universe. People liked insecure for their down to earth characterization, Nola makes you wonder how anybody can tolerate her presence but everyone is vying for spots in her life.

I'm sure this will be uncriticizeable among the Film Room Moist Boy Brigade for the feminist virtue signaling. You folks are very easy to please

I agree with this. None of them in his recent movies has been memorable.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

I cannot imagine any network positively promoting a series with a marginally-employed
27-year-old young man black man, juggling his three girlfriends and his his male lover
simultaneously.

That would be deemed an "exploration in irresponsible, toxic masculinity."

Nor would I want to see such socially-destructive propaganda foisted upon our
young brothas.

That this is celebrated as "black female sexual freedom" tells you all you need to know
about where we are, and where we are headed.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Final episode with them all in Nola's place was not a good way to end this show. I enjoyed it overrall and would like a 2nd season.

Something in that Brooklyn water because it has produced some great entertainers.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Haven't watched this through all the way but it's kinda trash for me.

The characters for young people in Spike films feel less and less like real people and more like vehicles of whatever plot point or theme. Felt the same way with Chiraq. The people in this show literally feel like they were gleaned from caricatures of certain types of Twitter/Tumblr users.

None of her three dudes were written realistically. Outside of Jamie most of them are thematic props for Nola who is a terribly written thematic plot device herself. Insecure managed to be good because of the self reflection and growth of the characters, sometimes it just stumbled on the episode to episode themes. (For example the gentrification episode) This show is the opposite, its wears the skin of Insecure and loudly shouts (but poorly executes) it's themes yet is lacking the life inside the insecure universe. People liked insecure for their down to earth characterization, Nola makes you wonder how anybody can tolerate her presence but everyone is vying for spots in her life.

I'm sure this will be uncriticizeable among the Film Room Moist Boy Brigade for the feminist virtue signaling. You folks are very easy to please

This.

I simply don’t get how some folks are praising this show when they really just want a continuation of Insecure while it’s on break. Spike could’ve done anything else with the Netflix money and just pulled back and remade one of his worst films. And like yuh said, the characters just feel like thematic plots to push whatever agenda is on front street in that particular episode.

I can’t see three brehs in 2017 New York damn near losing their minds simulataneously over a broke chick in extreme thot mode with no viable aspirations who just happens to fukk with women also. 2 our of 3 would flat out dip after she curved them over that dress fiasco. And with the sheer competition from quality females in NY, any of those dudes could easily slide to something else without missing a heartbeat. Nola is not Beyoncé the day before her first album came out, so them sweating her to all ends of the earth came off ridiculous (especially Mars terribly casted ass)

Spike gotta either mentor some young filmmakers/writers or commit to putting out quality films. No more remakes/reboots. shyt has literally ruined moves in the last 7-10 years and doesn’t work with black shows/movies that captures their SPECIFIC period. Imagine a Martin reboot. It would never work solely on the strength of just copying the original. There were aspects of it (specifically the cast) that made it unique.

Simply put, we need better black cinema on the little screen.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Nola is like the manic pixie dream girl where everyone is drawn to her but in reality she’s just messed up.

Artist in today’s world would be selling online and trying to get in work at galleries anywhere. Spike is peddling that pre-internet live in New York and just sell it there and you can make it fantasy

I really didn’t buy that someone loved like Greer wouldn’t be sleeping with 20 other chicks off Tinder and not be hung up on her.

Like LordCashmere said, he needs to work with some younger people.

If this was a project from a new director and an original script, it would get mad praise but Spike is 30 years in the game and not even putting out original content. Not saying he’s gotta do a superhero film but this low hanging Shea butter shyt got him looking mad funny.

 

[Formerly known as...]

Music heads....what is the song being played in Episode 3 when she's at the club with Mars?

 

[Drew Wonder]

I can’t see three brehs in 2017 New York damn near losing their minds simulataneously over a broke chick in extreme thot mode with no viable aspirations who just happens to fukk with women also. 2 our of 3 would flat out dip after she curved them over that dress fiasco. And with the sheer competition from quality females in NY, any of those dudes could easily slide to something else without missing a heartbeat. Nola is not Beyoncé the day before her first album came out, so them sweating her to all ends of the earth came off ridiculous (especially Mars terribly casted ass)

Eh, I get that it came off unrealistic but ya'll are being a little harsh. It's heavily implied that Greer is still fukking many other women while messing with Nola. I think she says it to him at some point and at the beginning of their date you see the various women he's smashed. But because of Greer's narcissism he sees Nola as more of a challenge since she's not enamored with him like his other hoes so that's why he pursues her more. It's less of a "I'm in love with this chick" and more of a " How come this bytch ain't in love with me? Let me investigate" type thing with him. I've seen it happen with a lot of womanizers who are used to chicks worshipping them. They're more intrigued by the chicks who treat them as disposable and aren't head over heels for them. To them it's the ultimate challenge, regardless of how bad she is.

With Jamie, Nola is an escape from his wife. It's more about what she represents to him than what she truly is

Mars has hoes but most of them are likely on some bummy shyt so to a dude like him Nola will come across more "sophisticated" and interesting

Basically the characters and dynamics are a bit more complex than ya'll are giving it credit for. The initial premise seems unrealistic but if you pay attention to the characters it makes sense why all of them would be drawn to Nola

 

[Tyrantus]

Haven't watched this through all the way but it's kinda trash for me.

The characters for young people in Spike films feel less and less like real people and more like vehicles of whatever plot point or theme. Felt the same way with Chiraq. The people in this show literally feel like they were gleaned from caricatures of certain types of Twitter/Tumblr users.

None of her three dudes were written realistically. Outside of Jamie most of them are thematic props for Nola who is a terribly written thematic plot device herself. Insecure managed to be good because of the self reflection and growth of the characters, sometimes it just stumbled on the episode to episode themes. (For example the gentrification episode) This show is the opposite, its wears the skin of Insecure and loudly shouts (but poorly executes) it's themes yet is lacking the life inside the insecure universe. People liked insecure for their down to earth characterization, Nola makes you wonder how anybody can tolerate her presence but everyone is vying for spots in her life.

I'm sure this will be uncriticizeable among the Film Room Moist Boy Brigade for the feminist virtue signaling. You folks are very easy to please

More alt-right talking points from you. What is really going on? You subscribe to their newsletter?

 

[T'Challa Trillmonger]

This.

And it not like he has to write anything. Dude probably has a ton of scripts being floated his way that he doesn’t have to re-heat any of his old stuff just to ride whatever wave 2017 is on. shyt is disappointing because Spike could literally kick off his own streaming service and curate it with his own shyt as legacy flagships and then let some younger showrunners do their thing.

And if Spike wanted something “relevant” for 2017 there’s a ton of topics to tackle that don’t resemble “Insecure BK before Insecure was Insecure”

honestly, i am a big spike fan ... but it feels like dude is pandering for a hit

i prefer insecure to this but i understand this show's appeal to its demographic

 

[Michael's Black Son]

honestly, i am a big spike fan ... but it feels like dude is pandering for a hit

i prefer insecure to this but i understand this show's appeal to its demographic

Spike has to do better because you know a ton of scripts float by him every day and some of that stuff has to be worth a second look. A director with his resources and connects shouldn’t have to make a show that appears to be the “winter break” version of an existing HBO show.

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

Yeah episode 10

Show was straight. Not something ill necessarily be checkin for in the futurem

 

[Jplaya2023]

i tried to watch, that chicks nose ring is an instant turnoff.

So i watched the OG movie, and i have to SMH @ these simps. I'll try to watch it again thogh

all hail mars blackmon

 

[gluvnast]

I cannot imagine any network positively promoting a series with a marginally-employed
27-year-old young man black man, juggling his three girlfriends and his his male lover
simultaneously.

That would be deemed an "exploration in irresponsible, toxic masculinity."

Nor would I want to see such socially-destructive propaganda foisted upon our
young brothas.

That this is celebrated as "black female sexual freedom" tells you all you need to know
about where we are, and where we are headed.

You DO KNOW the original is over THIRTY YEARS OLD... this isn't anything brand new. Spike Lee started his entire film career off this. So I doubt the themes and messages back then are any more different than today. Even if you do disagree with them.