Spin: LeBron would be undefeated in the finals had he got bounced out earlier too!

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It is what it is :yeshrug:. I'm not gonna sit up here and act like he played well or anything. I'm just not going to ignore circumstance in order to belabor that. If there was precedent for somebody other than Mike beasting in such a situation then it would be one thing but when all you can say is "Mike woulda done better" then I don't really see how that's a knock.

Last night I watched highlights of when he dropped 49 & 63 against the '86 championship Celtics on some HORRIBLY undermanned Bulls teams

I got alot of love for Bron, but Mike was just :wow:
 

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He was heavy underdog in every one of those series you mentioned.

With a far inferior team that made him do EVERYTHING.

I like shytting on LeBron as much as the next guy, but it's hard to blame him when he's going 1v5 out there. That 07 and this current 15 CLE teams are complete ass. I don't blame him for losing. And last year he was the only one who showed up for Miami.
Just stop it already. Many times his teammates saved his ass to help him get there. Hes got teammates that he doesn't even know how to use. For years, everyone was saying how much he makes his teammates better and that he can play with anyone. Everytime he loses in the finals, "he needs more help". No, he needs to learn how to play the damn game and use his teammates correctly. Having them stand around isn't doing them or him any good.
 

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Even when Jordan was going to war against the championship Bad Boys Pistons teams in 6/7 games series, he was giving them WORK.

The last series LeBron played and lost

28/7/4 2014
18/7/7 2011
27/9/7 2010
39/8/8 2009
27/8/6 2008
22/7/7 2007 (age 22 vs. 4 time champion Spurs)
27/9/6 2006 (age 21 vs. two time eastern conference champion Pistons)


Only time he didint give work was in 2011 :ld:

Jordan's offensive #s were better. But then again we know Jordan is better offensively and he also played in an era with a much faster pace (I'm talking 80s Jordan)
 

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Last night I watched highlights of when he dropped 49 & 63 against the '86 championship Celtics on some HORRIBLY undermanned Bulls teams

I got alot of love for Bron, but Mike was just :wow:

Honestly as great as he is and as much love as he has received I think he's actually the most disrespected of all the GOATs. Nobody is saying that Miggy or Trout are better than Bonds or Ruth or even trying to have that argument right now. Same with Crosby and Ovechkin (sp) and Gretzky. Yet there has been this mission the last 15 years or so to rig the game and move the goalposts to try to make Kobe and now LeBron better or at least on par with Mike. If you ain't droppin damn near 40 your second season, sit down. If you ain't winning scoring titles and championships in the same season (see how many times it was done outside of Mike), sit down. Mike has his own level when it comes to perimeter guys. The comparisons are disrespectful to him and unfair to the others guys.
 

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The last series LeBron played and lost

28/7/4 2014
18/7/7 2011
27/9/7 2010
39/8/8 2009
27/8/6 2008
22/7/7 2007 (age 22 vs. 4 time champion Spurs)
27/9/6 2006 (age 21 vs. two time eastern conference champion Pistons)


Only time he didint give work was in 2011 :ld:

Jordan's offensive #s were better. But then again we know Jordan is better offensively and he also played in an era with a much faster pace (I'm talking 80s Jordan)

bruh, he played like shyt in that 4 game sweep vs. the Spurs and COMPLETELY bytched up in 2010 against the Celtics

21 pts, 6 turnovers on 34% shooting in 3 straight losses to finish out that series

he was already out the door and quit on Cleveland by that point, shyt was sad



dont rewrite history breh and I see you conveniently leaving out turnovers and FG%'s
 

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Are lebron stan still defending his (2) rings? Thats cute.. I guess he worked out and raised a good core group to wint those (2) rings.....
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Honestly as great as he is and as much love as he has received I think he's actually the most disrespected of all the GOATs. Nobody is saying that Miggy or Trout are better than Bonds or Ruth or even trying to have that argument right now. Same with Crosby and Ovechkin (sp) and Gretzky. Yet there has been this mission the last 15 years or so to rig the game and move the goalposts to try to make Kobe and now LeBron better or at least on par with Mike. If you ain't droppin damn near 40 your second season, sit down. If you ain't winning scoring titles and championships in the same season (see how many times it was done outside of Mike), sit down. Mike has his own level when it comes to perimeter guys. The comparisons are disrespectful to him and unfair to the others guys.
Im in complete agreement with this

except Jonathan Toews has officially passed Crosby/Ovechkin as greatest modern day skater :takedat:
 

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bruh, he played like shyt in that 4 game sweep vs. the Spurs and COMPLETELY bytched up in 2010 against the Celtics

21 pts, 6 turnovers on 34% shooting in 3 straight losses to finish out that series

he was already out the door and quit on Cleveland by that point, shyt was sad



dont rewrite history breh and I see you conveniently leaving out turnovers and FG%'s

Let a teammate smash your moms breh.
 
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Every series MJ lost before the finals they were the underdog.

:mjlol:

MJ never lost with HCA in any round.

Lebron has lost multiple series before the finals with HCA..

This thread sucks


Not only that, the Eastern Conference in the mid 80's>>>>The Eastern Conference during Bron's whole career.

You throw 37 ppg Mike on a Eastern Conference team right now, you don't think they make the playoffs?

Throw that Mike on a team like this past seasons Bobcats, they might fukk around and win a championship.

There's no Bad Boy Pistons or Larry Bird Celtics in his way
 

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Im in complete agreement with this

except Jonathan Toews has officially passed Crosby/Ovechkin as greatest modern day skater :takedat:

Yeah I don't really follow Hockey like that so I'm gonna have to take your word for it. I'm gonna assume he's a BlackHawk since you are one of the most strident (and reasonable) Bulls fan's here.
 
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You put a 22 year old with a super streaky jumper, no other viable offensive options, and a shytty coach out there as the unquestioned leader against the best team and defense in the league on the biggest stage and what exactly would you expect? Sure Mike would have done better individually, but that's why he's Mike. Not sure how many other perimeter guys would have fared much better under those same circumstances.
They sagged off Bron and gave him plenty of open looks to shoot. Brons midrange game was :trash: back then,
 

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Yeah I don't really follow Hockey like that so I'm gonna have to take your word for it. I'm gonna assume he's a BlackHawk since you are one of the most strident (and reasonable) Bulls fan's here.
Yep - he is, and its not even homerism anymore. Hes earned that title and deaded the argument on the ice himself
 
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