SPIN: Obi-Wan dies instead of Qui-Gon. What changes?

[Days of Future Piff]

Let’s say that Qui Gon survived the Darth Maul fight instead of Obi-wan. How does the Star Wars saga change from there?

The most obvious change is that there would most likely be no Darth Vader since Qui-Gon was able to relate to Anakin and guide him more effectively than the rest of the Jedi could.

I don’t think Dooku would have turned to the dark side either if Qui-Gon hadn’t gotten murked.

Then big question is whether or not the clone wars still happen. And who would be Sidious’s next apprentice? Maybe Asajj Ventress?

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Anakin doesn't fall to the darkside for a few reasons.

I don't blame the Jedi for his fall, but they weren't what he needed. In fact, I think a sane Anakin and Qui-Gon would've changed the Jedi Order for the better.

Another reason Anakin doesn't fall is because I'm convinced that Qui-Gon would've gone back for Schmi, take away her horrific death alone = Anakin doesn't become a psychopath.

Dooku doesn't fall either, 100%.

I think Qui-Gon would've immediately seen through Palpatine's bullshyt, and Anakin receiving the extra care that he needed, and I do believe QGJ would be firm with him, wouldn't be so susceptible. I think Palpatine would constantly be trying to murk Anakin, rather than turn him.

The Clone Wars might not happen. Sifo-Dyas wouldn't have been linked to Palpatine without Dooku, he might still have confided in Dooku who in turn, with Qui-Gon alive, might not have turned on the Jedi/Republic.

I see Palpatine resorting to dictatorship but failing without a war to fall back on, and resorting to oldschool Sith shyt and all out war.

With a Jedi Order not decimated by war, and the chosen one in a healthy state of mind - Palpatine gets killed by Anakin. This leads Anakin, and QGJ, to revolutionize the Jedi Order.

I don't think Anakin ends up with Padme, with his mother freed he wouldn't have to obsess about her so much.

That fight was the duel of the fates, and Maul killing QGJ led to our timeline, the Jedi both surviving would've been the best timeline. Obi-Wan was the perfect bridge between QGJ and the Jedi Order, I can imagine QGJ's way of teaching Anakin could lead to friction with the Order, without Obi-Wan; but Maul exposing the Sith would still see the Order letting him get away with it (even without Obi).

George Lucas

 

[Luke Cage]

The jedi would've been threatened by qui gonn and anakins growing power and influence and would've legit tried to overthrow the republic. Instead of just being framed for it.
Same events would've taken place except instead of two sith ruling the galaxy, two former jedi save it from the sith and jedi alike.

 

[Max.]

Not sure but wasnt wui gonn flirt with the darkside or no

 

[acri1]

Anakin still turns to the dark side at some point. Dude was emotionally unstable from the jump, blaming Obi-Wan for it is lame.

Episode III just has Anakin fighting Qui-Gon instead of Obi-Wan. Probably with the same outcome.

 

[Geek Nasty]

Anakin still turns to the dark side at some point. Dude was emotionally unstable from the jump, blaming Obi-Wan for it is lame.

Episode III just has Anakin fighting Qui-Gon instead of Obi-Wan. Probably with the same outcome.

the Emperor was injecting those ideas into his mind.

And Anakin probably turns even faster because it was the bad lessons Obiwan gets from Quigon that help him get turned. Plus if Quigon wins the fight he probably gets made a master and has even more influence teaching bad practices.

 

[DOSDUMUNI]

Anakin would have still turned to the dark side

Obi-wan tried his best with Anakin. He was doomed to the dark side from the beginning.

 

[acri1]

the Emperor was injecting those ideas into his mind.

And Anakin probably turns even faster because it was the bad lessons Obiwan gets from Quigon that help him get turned. Plus if Quigon wins the fight he probably gets made a master and has even more influence teaching bad practices.

Anakin would have still turned to the dark side

Obi-wan tried his best with Anakin. He was doomed to the dark side from the beginning.

Exactly. Palpatine was still going to be around to turn him regardless of who Anakin's master was.

He was just never the type of person that was fit to be a Jedi. Yoda and Mace were right matter of fact listening to Qui-Gon got them in the situation to start with.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Mace Windu kid becomes the new chosen one.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

i think aniken still falls to the dark side cause the force needs balance it just haappens diffently
instead of brothers falling out its a father and son type fall out

they probably figure out palpatine is a sith lord much quicker tho

 

[beenz]

enough of the anakin stuff. my question is would qui gon be able to even train luke? he might have been too old to even meet luke given how old obi wan was when they met.

 

[MidniteJay]

enough of the anakin stuff. my question is would qui gon be able to even train luke? he might have been too old to even meet luke given how old obi wan was when they met.

Some Jedi can stretch their lifespan.

Anakin doesn't fall to the darkside for a few reasons.

I don't blame the Jedi for his fall, but they weren't what he needed. In fact, I think a sane Anakin and Qui-Gon would've changed the Jedi Order for the better.

Another reason Anakin doesn't fall is because I'm convinced that Qui-Gon would've gone back for Schmi, take away her horrific death alone = Anakin doesn't become a psychopath.

Dooku doesn't fall either, 100%.

I think Qui-Gon would've immediately seen through Palpatine's bullshyt, and Anakin receiving the extra care that he needed, and I do believe QGJ would be firm with him, wouldn't be so susceptible. I think Palpatine would constantly be trying to murk Anakin, rather than turn him.

The Clone Wars might not happen. Sifo-Dyas wouldn't have been linked to Palpatine without Dooku, he might still have confided in Dooku who in turn, with Qui-Gon alive, might not have turned on the Jedi/Republic.

I see Palpatine resorting to dictatorship but failing without a war to fall back on, and resorting to oldschool Sith shyt and all out war.

With a Jedi Order not decimated by war, and the chosen one in a healthy state of mind - Palpatine gets killed by Anakin. This leads Anakin, and QGJ, to revolutionize the Jedi Order.

I don't think Anakin ends up with Padme, with his mother freed he wouldn't have to obsess about her so much.

That fight was the duel of the fates, and Maul killing QGJ led to our timeline, the Jedi both surviving would've been the best timeline. Obi-Wan was the perfect bridge between QGJ and the Jedi Order, I can imagine QGJ's way of teaching Anakin could lead to friction with the Order, without Obi-Wan; but Maul exposing the Sith would still see the Order letting him get away with it (even without Obi).

George Lucas

I like this set up the best.

 

[beenz]

Some Jedi can stretch their lifespan.



I like this set up the best.

so a jedi can be yoda-ish in age?

 

[acri1]

so a jedi can be yoda-ish in age?

He would be about the same age Count Dooku was, and Dooku was still active and fighting

 

[MidniteJay]

so a jedi can be yoda-ish in age?

Depends on the species and how connected to the force they are. Human Jedi can extend their lifespan to about 200.

Dooku was pushing 90 when he gave Obi and Anakin that work and went toe-to-toe with Yoda in Attack Of The Clones.