Spin: Pac is the only GOAT candidate with a wack azz debut

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2pacalypse Now = :mindblown::why::deadrose::comeon::rudy:

Me Against The World, AEOM = :win::krs::myman::wow::gladbron:

nikka hadnt found his swag yet on this album he basically Ice Cube son and a weak version at that.. Death Row was the best/worst thing that happened to that man

edit: stans handing out 1 stars I see but so far everybody basically agree with me
 

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2pacalypse now had plenty of classic records.



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far from trash. In fact its a great foundation for a legendary career.
 
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He's the GOAT... but I think today his demo would've been tossed in the Bushes :birdman:

Wordplay's irrelevant, cheap thrill, when we talk about the greatest of all-time it comes to songwriting, timeless stuff.
 

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true but pac at his best wasnt really up 2 par with the rest of them at the same time as far as wordplay, but thats the only thing he was lacking cuz everything thing else was there... big-nas-hov in 96 >

That might be true but wordplay isn't the be all and end all. I'm not like other pac fans who claim he was the greatest lyricist of all time because he wasn't. But when you put pacs attributes all together, he is in my opinion the better then nas,biggie, hov.
 

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2pacalypse now had plenty of classic records.
far from trash. In fact its a great foundation for a legendary career.

ehhhhh I wouldnt say GREAT foundation its solid, if MATW would been his debut THAT wouldve been a GREAT foundation... 2pacalypse really dont stand out like that to me it's basically the same as T.I. I'm Serious album, singles was cool and all but not that strong compared to the later work... :pachaha:
 

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Nah it was just different..and unlike his peers..Pac's production team was asscheeks during that period.

He didnt have the support Jay, Big and Nas had for their first albums.

The album he would have released after 7 Day Theory wouldve been :takedat::takedat::takedat::whoo::whoo:
 

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ehhhhh I wouldnt say GREAT foundation its solid, if MATW would been his debut THAT wouldve been a GREAT foundation... 2pacalypse really dont stand out like that to me it's basically the same as T.I. I'm Serious album, singles was cool and all but not that strong compared to the later work... :pachaha:

2pac was 19 when this dropped.

Think of how many other 19 year olds debuts were so revolutionary as far as content?

also its not supposed to be as strong as later work because that what growth is. Every artist is supposed to grow throughout their career.
 

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Nah it was just different..and unlike his peers..Pac's production team was asscheeks during that period.

He didnt have the support Jay, Big and Nas had for their first albums.

The album he would have released after 7 Day Theory wouldve been :takedat::takedat::takedat::whoo::whoo:

maaaaaaybe thats it cuz the beats are fukking terrible I cant listen to this shyt honestly cuz it sounds really dated, and on top of that its some WEAK dated shyt unlike say Death Certificate for example... add the fact that Pac was at his worst stage lyrically and wasnt as charismatic as he would become and u have a weedplate imo
 
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