Came in to say this.
Spin (snub): how crazy is it that Pippen never won DPOY as a Bull?
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Came in to say this.
superunknown23
Superstar
Only non-big men to ever win it:
Artest (2004)
Payton (1996)
MJ (1988)
Cooper (1987)
Robertson (1986)
Moncrief (83, 84)
Since the 90s this award is basically for big men only
Artest (2004)
Payton (1996)
MJ (1988)
Cooper (1987)
Robertson (1986)
Moncrief (83, 84)
Since the 90s this award is basically for big men only
feelosofer
#ninergang
It's tough to key in Pippens defense because he was good all around so it got lost in the mix. I mean there are few players that could literally put up all-star number in virtually any system. It's not until you have some distance away from his career that you see how good he really was.
mbewane
Knicks: 93 til infinity
Only non-big men to ever win it:
Artest (2004)
Payton (1996)
MJ (1988)
Cooper (1987)
Robertson (1986)
Moncrief (83, 84)
Since the 90s this award is basically for big men only
Yeah true that's kind of f*cked up imo...I don't know, I tend to be more impressed by perimeter d because they have to cover more ground and guys like Pip or MJ are very versatile defenders (everything from PGs to PFs), as opposed to Centers who "just" (not trying to deny that's not a big feat in itself
), maybe even more so in this day and age...yeah I'm still pissed that Coward would basically automatically get it, who the hell was he defending against 
malbaker86
Gators
It's more ridiculous that Tim Duncan has never won it.
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
Yeah true that's kind of f*cked up imo...I don't know, I tend to be more impressed by perimeter d because they have to cover more ground and guys like Pip or MJ are very versatile defenders (everything from PGs to PFs), as opposed to Centers who "just" (not trying to deny that's not a big feat in itself
guards all 5... hes why our D works now, his (and Gibsons) ability to switch on picks...But Pip was that nicca... i remember when the Bulls unveiled the black jerseys when i was in Jr High, I was the first nicca wit that #33
Big men have much more impact on defense. It's no surprise why they've won the majority
Which years should duncan have won it
malbaker86
Gators
Easily the years he was league MVP
it's hard to win stuff when you play with jordan. Pip got cheated out of an MVP cause he played with jordan.
Jordan and Pippen would lock up the perimeter back in the day and still have energy to get buckets. Can't see bron and wade consistently locking down the perimeter 82 games a yr and still getting points. Players don't have stamina these days....can't remember the last time I seen a team get at someone with the full court press.
Jordan and Pippen would lock up the perimeter back in the day and still have energy to get buckets. Can't see bron and wade consistently locking down the perimeter 82 games a yr and still getting points. Players don't have stamina these days....can't remember the last time I seen a team get at someone with the full court press.
What year would you have given it to him breh?
But what's interesting is, the Bulls defense got better statiscally in 1994 when Jordan left replacing him with Pete Myers and got worse when he came back in 95'
The bulls offense played at a much slower pace in 94, which means less possessions equals less shots equals less points.
in 1993 the bulls averages 105 a game and gave up 99 a game. In 1994 the bulls averaged 98 points a game and gave up 95 a game.
They had to slow down the pace because they couldn't just out score teams like they did with michael, Phil changed the way the team played to fit with ther personel on the team
Pippen was cheated out of a MVP?
You can argue he should of won it in 94, But Dream was outstanding. That's really the only year you can argue it
I dont think he had an argument over Dream
and how did MJ cheat him out of that MVP when he wasn't even in the league?