SPIN: The threshold for "pro-Black" must be risen from "speaking out" + "Tweeting/Instagram" to...

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

You can't have a new day in America without bloodshed or reform.

The latter is what most of the speaking out, stay woke\blm crowd is trying to empathize.

The former is self explanatory and I'll leave it at that.

Either that or it's running away to a country in Africa.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Stop expecting celebrities to save the black community. If you feel infrastructure and institutions need to be built then you build it.

Too many of us want someone else to do the work that we are more than capable of doing ourselves.

I'm all there, but; I'm trying to keep this thread a little more narrow.

Too many ppl get labeled "woke" for nothing.

I'm sick seeing all these rich and powerful black actors complaining about the Oscars and getting credit for something.

One of my favorite podcast is on that bullshyt. Black ppl are legit offended at the notion we need to make our own.

@CashmereEsquire made some great points in the is blacklives matter going nowhere thread.

This.

For those of us that aren't struggling...many are complacent and aren't really about that action as much as they claim they are. Their agenda for black empowerment doesn't go beyond making posts on sites like this one or tweeting or reblogging. Or sharing facebook posts. Or maybe the occasional protest. Then they can feel like they've done something.

Realistically, I think a good amount of black folks could really care less if they're making decent money and able to keep a roof over their head and bills paid and food on the table and can manage to make a nice life for themselves even under the umbrella of white supremacy. They think money and success is the best way to deal with racism (for them) and once they have it, all that talk of black empowerment and helping black people just becomes...talk...to alleviate some sort of guilt about them truly not wanting to do anything. Their black empowerment is for themselves and themselves only. To be accepted in white society, not to build with blacks.

Basically.

Entertainers are the worst. They're rich employees who still have to be liked, wanted, hired, and approved by outside forces to sustain their careers. That includes being palatable to all demographics and interest groups aside from their own.

 

[Apollo Creed]

At this point if you are a Black man over the age of 25 and haven't started making moves I dont know what to tell you.

We dont need anymore threads saying what we have known of the last 100 yrs.

Leave the tweeting and marching to BLM/Feminist/Liberals.

If y'all aint making a thread about needing to find partners for an investment, or personal advice on doing something tangible, it serves us no purpose at this point.

Asking someone to change or for something is not the trait of a leader.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

@CashmereEsquire made some great points in the is blacklives matter going nowhere thread.

This.

For those of us that aren't struggling...many are complacent and aren't really about that action as much as they claim they are. Their agenda for black empowerment doesn't go beyond making posts on sites like this one or tweeting or reblogging. Or sharing facebook posts. Or maybe the occasional protest. Then they can feel like they've done something.

Realistically, I think a good amount of black folks could really care less if they're making decent money and able to keep a roof over their head and bills paid and food on the table and can manage to make a nice life for themselves even under the umbrella of white supremacy. They think money and success is the best way to deal with racism (for them) and once they have it, all that talk of black empowerment and helping black people just becomes...talk...to alleviate some sort of guilt about them truly not wanting to do anything. Their black empowerment is for themselves and themselves only. To be accepted in white society, not to build with blacks.

Honestly I just don't think we need celebrities to get shyt done. All it takes for black men and women with a vision and the confidence to build whatever they feel needs to be built. My girl went to Cookman, an HBCU that was founded by Mary McLeod Bethune. She decided to start a school so she bought a dump and built the school on it. Here's one of her first classes in 1905:

100 years later and that small dump turned a university with a division 1 football team.

We can do anything we put our mind too. We don't need celebrities, the rich, or cacs to make shyt happen IMO.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

At this point if you are a Black man over the age of 25 and haven't started making moves I dont know what to tell you.

We dont need anymore threads saying what we have known of the last 100 yrs.

Leave the tweeting and marching to BLM/Feminist/Liberals.

If y'all aint making a thread about needing to find partners for an investment, or personal advice on doing something tangible, it serves us no purpose at this point.

Asking someone to change or for something is not the trait of a leader.

Define liberal. Are you not one?

 

[.༼-◕_◕-༽.]

...to building actual infrastructure for minorities and the under-served. ESPECIALLY from powerful black people.

I see a lot tweets. I see a lot of videos. I see some "charities" (see tax write offs).

I don't see a lot of "work in the streets."

Example; Oprah didn't tweet about the issue of young girls' education in Africa, she built a damn school (however problematic).

I'm sorry for being cynical; Beyonce just played a great card so she wouldn't be on the wrong side of history 15 years later (aka "legacy" building).

EDIT: I feel the same way about Jay-Z's Hurricane Katrina song. My city STILL messed up.

Speak...

If you're a NOLA native/resident, then you know better than anyone else as to what's been done by "celebrities."

I do think it's problematic to sweep in and NOT change infrastructure.

 

[KOohbt]

nikkas just shook to compete with cacs. Ain't nothing to get your fam together and start buying rental properties in your city. Ain't nothing to build. Matter fact it's easier to build than get shytted on.

nikkas just not even trying. To keep it a buck. Scared to offend the white man by taking his clients. p*ssy shyt. I'm trying to have my ppl own my whole damn city. fukk what you heard.

 

[Bugatti Biceps]

Stop expecting celebrities to save the black community.

They have a platform, and its incumbent on those black people with a platform to do more than platitudes and bullshyt. We can get that from cac politicians. I expect better from our own. Hell, back some political pro-black candidates in major cities, do something. Put the major abundance of money where your mouth is.

 

[GoldTeef]

If you feel infrastructure and institutions need to be built then you build it.

do the work that we are more than capable of doing ourselves.

Can a single person do this by themselves? Where are they getting the money?

 

[Easy-E]

fukk the praise. What's the priority as far as infrastructure in your opinion?

Financial education.

Obviously they have no intentions of doing it. Now what?

They don't; I've venting that I don't want to hear/see all this praise.

I've already given up on celebrities. That wasn't the point of the thread.

I'm just sayin'; "just because he wear a kufi, don't mean he's bright"

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

It's easy to get black women to organize and be committed and consistent, but bringing black men together is like pulling teeth. Dudes are hard-headed for no reason

Every loudmouth wants to be THE leader and we often think that means not listening to what anyone else has to say.
The shyt almost always ends with arguing over dumb shyt


If you do manage to get a bunch of committed brothas and sistas together, it's best to keep it small, tight and grow gradually



As far as real infrastructure, it's tough to explain to people that you have to crawl and start small first. shyt rarely happens overnight without a windfall of cash

 

[Ness]

Stop expecting celebrities to save the black community. If you feel infrastructure and institutions need to be built then you build it.

Too many of us want someone else to do the work that we are more than capable of doing ourselves.

Why is a negative thing to wish for the black people with the most resources to actually use them in favor of their ppl tho, instead of jus usin our plight as a tool whenever they want brownie points?

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Can a single person do this by themselves? Where are they getting the money?

Absolutely a single person can do it and there's a million ways you can get the money: you save the money, you raise the money, you get a second job, you put a 2nd mortgage on your home, you drive uber on the weekend, etc.

If its something you really want to do (I.e. build an institution), you'd sacrifice whatever it takes to get it done.

Financial education.


They don't; I've venting that I don't want to hear/see all this praise.

I've already given up on celebrities. That wasn't the point of the thread.

I'm just sayin'; "just because he wear a kufi, don't mean he's bright"

Im confused. You've given up on celebrities but you're wondering why they're not doing something for black people?

 

[Swirv]

Honestly I just don't think we need celebrities to get shyt done. All it takes for black men and women with a vision and the confidence to build whatever they feel needs to be built. My girl went to Cookman, an HBCU that was founded by Mary McLeod Bethune. She decided to start a school so she bought a dump and built the school on it. Here's one of her first classes in 1905:

100 years later and that small dump turned a university with a division 1 football team.

We can do anything we put our mind too. We don't need celebrities, the rich, or cacs to make shyt happen IMO.

It takes time to build infrastructure and many people want instant results.

A masterplan plays out over decades and you might die before seeing the fruits.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

It takes time to build infrastructure and many people want instant results.

A masterplan plays out over decades and you might die before seeing the fruits.

Of course it takes time to build infrastructure, I'm confused how people seem to miss that part. Anything that's great takes a very long time to build. But instead of us taking the first step and building something, many of us sit on our hands waiting for someone else to do the work so we can benefit from it.