Spin Thread: America’s Collapse

[WIA20XX]

meh, look at Canada or the UK. They are 20 years ahead of whatever downfall the US is supposed to be in.

Economically stagnant, overly reliant on neighbors, and full of Indians?

 

[Mike Nasty]

Economically stagnant, overly reliant on neighbors, and full of Indians?

Public drug use, no government oversight or consumer protections.

 

[WIA20XX]

To be honest, I don't think it will be China. They're in an unstoppable demographic bomb. I seriously think it's going to be a mix of Canada (don't laugh, I seriously think this), India, a random EU coalition who is not exactly EU or NATO, and an African superpower/potential coalition (EAU perhaps) empowered by China.

I say those regions because they will have a young educated population, and Canada is accepting a lot of immigrants who will be young and educated AND as the Arctic circle unfreezes, maritime trade across the north pole is going to explode and Canada will have the remaining best parts of American ideology that are still acceptable to the world.

I'm inclined to write a short science fiction story where America and China have fallen, and it's the geo political battle is between Africa and Indonesia....

 

[StackorStarve]

Good responses. I think

American collapse is trailer parks and low rise apartments everywhere.

So if you've driven through the Midwest/Rust Belt, The South, you're seeing what failed America looks like.

Those places didn't always look like that. They used to have economic activity, you used to be able to buy a home, buy a car, raise a family, and still have money left over.

This is what I think will most likely happen. I think there will be mass protests and some riots as it falls but we’ll eventually just settle into discomfort and we’ll stay there for a while. Worst case scenario I can see the country splitting apart but that would involve a war and all bets are off if that happens.

 

[JNew]

The “collapse” probably won’t be recognized by the general public for another 10-20 years.

When most boomers are gone, Americas population starts to decline, the great wealth transfer is done and we slip into a hyper state of have and have nots.

Basically a society where your either born into wealth or your working class. From doctors to post offices. Your part of the working class. Even sports players and celebrities won’t be able to get into the elite class who control 95% of Americas wealth.

I don’t think it will be apocalyptic but my guess is more socialism and instead of culture war will have class war.

Im not talking crumbling infrastructure, food lines or slums. Just the opposite, will probably have government programs that will make cleaner safer cites, education programs and state of the art infrastructure projects and programs. Only thing is with the wealth gap no one is getting rich and your payed just enough.

 

[StackorStarve]

The “collapse” probably won’t be recognized by the general public for another 10-20 years.

When most boomers are gone, Americas population starts to decline, the great wealth transfer is done and we slip into a hyper state of have and have nots.

Basically a society where your either born into wealth or your working class. From doctors to post offices. Your part of the working class. Even sports players and celebrities won’t be able to get into the elite class who control 95% of Americas wealth.

I don’t think it will be apocalyptic but my guess is more socialism and instead of culture war will have class war.

I agree with your point but take it a step further how do you think the general public will react when that realization happens in 10-20 years? We’re dealing with the same group of people that rallied outside of state buildings in the middle of a global pandemic because they wanted to go outside and not wear a mask.

 

[ItsPeople]

Hyperinflation.

 

[Mob H]

Lot of cities that are gonna look like this

What do you mean "gonna"?

 

[Strapped]

Ask an old yt what revives the American economy & they'll tell you war , the Pentagon is currently on Venezuelas shores looking for a reason or a good stage to get that oil & sell it .

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

To be honest, I don't think it will be China. They're in an unstoppable demographic bomb. I seriously think it's going to be a mix of Canada (don't laugh, I seriously think this), India, a random EU coalition who is not exactly EU or NATO, and an African superpower/potential coalition (EAU perhaps) empowered by China.

I say those regions because they will have a young educated population, and Canada is accepting a lot of immigrants who will be young and educated AND as the Arctic circle unfreezes, maritime trade across the north pole is going to explode and Canada will have the remaining best parts of American ideology that are still acceptable to the world.

Without American money stimulating India, I don't see how it survives as a nation without breaking up. I don't think China can hold it up.

 

[JNew]

I agree with your point but take it a step further how do you think the general public will react when that realization happens in 10-20 years? We’re dealing with the same group of people that rallied outside of state buildings in the middle of a global pandemic because they wanted to go outside and not wear a mask.

My guess… the opposite of trump. People will come together and will be ready to work and build a better world. ( the younger generations after millennials) In 20 years the maga movement won’t have the numbers it needs.

As the old die and the American ideals of the 1900s do to with them, I think the general public will probably see a new future for the American dream. What idk.

Millennials retire and enjoy the fruits of their labor while the younger generation start to build the world of tomorrow.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

I think mostly what it will amount to is America not being the leading creator of culture and wealth anymore. Its influence will erode. It’ll be another country on the level of England or something.

That's the best case scenario.

The worst case scenario is essentially a return to how things were like in the gilded age. A small group of super rich who have privatized basically everything and they control the government.

Company scrip will come back in the form of some kind of cryptocurrency and most people who are working, are working for only walmart or amazon. Uber and all the meal delivery services will be owned by amazon or Walmart. They'll also be the #1 employer of care aids and workers that the rich will employ to do whatever they ask.

There will be rolling blackouts as big tech uses more and more electricity and all the unemployed who can still pay for rent stay at home.

The median age is 60 because they've kicked out the majority of the nonwhites who are the only ones with growing birth rates. Infant mortality explodes and pregnancy is a risky thing again because quacks have taken over healthcare and the actual nurses and doctors either work exclusively for the aristocracy or theyve left america to go to another country.

Bodies in the street from seniors whove become homeless and starved to death. America's death toll in general will explode. Suicide rates will go up, people will die from tainted food, cancer, diabetes, heart disease related deaths will continue to grow at an alarming rate because people can't afford healthcare since they lost their jobs and Medicare funding is gone. Seniors will commit suicide because their pensions will be gone because of a stock market crash or because of some loophole that allows wall st. To just straight up take people's 401ks. A lot of car accidents from old people with dementia who can't afford care at home or to move into elder care facilities.

Drug addicts in the streets as well and stronger organized crime networks which will have literally 10s of millions of unemployed adults and teenagers whove given up on school(public school funding is essentially eliminated completely and the only free schools are run by conservative religious zealots)

Crumbling infrastructre. Every day you'll hear about a bridge collapsing, multi car pileups, planes crashing into eachother or into buildings, whole highways will fall apart.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

American is not going to collapse......If yall so scared, you all can self deport

 

[MoshpitMazi]

The only reason I'm in on the collapse talk is because the job numbers are so Shaky, and that's with A I in infancy and the usual political mechanics are being eroded with this national guard military talk, I have a really bad feeling about that. Texas already has crazy gerrymandering and California is next. Once you open that door you cannot go back.
Things are slowly heading towards balkanization.

 

[Vandelay]

Without American money stimulating India, I don't see how it survives as a nation without breaking up. I don't think China can hold it up.

That's a fair point, but I'm banking on these countries with younger populations taking over demand from The West. Not dollar for dollar, but in quantity. As well as there will be a push to move manufacturing where the actual raw materials are.