Stacey Abrams breaks down why Democrats dont mention black Americans specifically

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If the white liberals are really our 'allies', why would the dems lose votes when they are doing something for one of their allies? Somehow mentioning Asians, LGBT, Mexicans, etc., aren't making the party 'lose votes'...
 
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You just answered your own question
I bet you the LGBTQI community make up more than 12% nationally and don't just include one race
Its why its not political suicide to make policies for them but not black people

They are 7% of the population and trans who also got specific legislation is 1%.

They don’t do anything for black Americans cause they aren’t allowed. Democrat party is just as racist but they are nice about it. That lift all boats saying is nonsense and a lie out boat has a hole in it.
 

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Fortunately for her 95 % of black people are not faux militants both siders on the internet who still would be too lazy to vote whatever she said or did :yeshrug:
Unfortunately for her, she probably needs to sway that 5%, as she’s going to need every black person she can get to beat Kemp here in GA.
 

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I don’t understand how you could listen to the clip of her speaking and get something negative from it. She didn’t say what was right or wrong or how she felt. She explained WHY a traditional politician uses blanket terms. She even mentions that she tried using language specifically for black people and it didn’t work out for her.

You’re mad because she didn’t call this country racist. To what end. How will that benefit anyone. What do you get from her publicly admitting that people in this country are (and this country at large) are racist. The reason black politicians avoid this is the same reason racist politicians use dog whistles. We all know what she means and what she is saying. You just want to be coddled and reassured so that you can feel better about the oppression you face.

With the history of this country’s covert means of oppressing people, you think BLACK PEOPLE will accomplish anything without doing the same?… as the minority? Learn how to play the game, except learn how to play it better. That’s how you win. Brute force doesn’t work when you’re 1/8 of the population… and even less if you’re talking about just ADOS.
 

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That answer is complete bullshyt. Easy rebuttal.

If we only represent 12% of the population so they can’t address or needs without losing majority of votes, why can they address LGBT issues? LGBT (trans) especially get specific laws passed for them.
Because LGBT people still have power they can wield because they don’t have glass ceiling like black people. I’m willing to bet there are more LGBT executives in America than black ones.

Also, people don’t have as much of an ingrained hatred for LGBT people as they do for black people. Racism is woven into the fabric of this country. Homophobia, not so much.
 

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Because that whole "play the game" talk is complete bullshyt. They have no intention of getting in and then doing this specifically for us.

You think STACEY ABRAMS doesn't want to help black people? Based on what?

I get that people are hurt because they feel the government doesn't want to help them at all, but this country is so racist that there are basically two ways for black people to be seen and heard:

1. Show up at these people's offices (as elected officials)

2. Show up at these people's doorsteps

These two are basically interchangable and equally offensive to white people. Getting our people into office matters, and that includes knowing the fukking game.
 

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When you have Black Only policies things like this happens

A Covid-19 Relief Fund Was Only for Black Residents. Then Came the Lawsuits.​

Oregon earmarked $62 million to explicitly benefit Black individuals and business owners. Now some of the money is in limbo after lawsuits alleging racial discrimination.

After convening several virtual meetings, the civic leaders proposed a bold and novel solution that state lawmakers approved in July. The state would earmark $62 million of its $1.4 billion in federal Covid-19 relief money to provide grants to Black residents, business owners and community organizations enduring pandemic-related hardships.
“It was finally being honest: This is who needs this support right now,” said Lew Frederick, a state senator who is Black.

But now millions of dollars in grants are on hold after one Mexican-American and two white business owners sued the state, arguing that the fund for Black residents discriminated against them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/03/us/oregon-cares-fund-lawsuit.html


Black Farmers Fear Foreclosure as Debt Relief Remains Frozen​

Lawsuits from white farmers have blocked $4 billion of pandemic aid that was allocated to Black farmers in the American Rescue Plan.

Banks were unhappy that the loans would be repaid early, depriving them of interest payments. Groups of white farmers in Wisconsin, North Dakota, Oregon and Illinois sued the Agriculture Department, arguing that offering debt relief on the basis of skin color is discriminatory, suggesting that a successful Black farmer could have his debts cleared while a struggling white farm could go out of business. America First Legal, a group led by the former Trump administration official Stephen Miller, filed a lawsuit making a similar argument in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Texas.

Last June, before the money started flowing, a federal judge in Florida blocked the program on the basis that it applied “strictly on racial grounds” irrespective of any other factor.

 

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Sometimes I feel like yall are brand new to politics. Like you just started paying attention yesterday. I'll say it because no Black with a future will ever say this:

Black specific is a no-sell to the white voting majority public l. It never has been. The last time it was (Reconstruction), and white politicians quickly abandoned by 1877 because of public response. What followed was the revival of the kkk, the creation of Jim Crow/Black Codes and years of race riots from Nebraska to Flordia. For a time, there was so many in one year, it got a name "The Red Summer".

The White voting block does not respond well to us "getting ahead". For example, Affirmative action is on its way outside because cacs believe it places us in places we didn't earn our way into....which is bullshyt since according to the Dept of Ed., yt women and asians have benefited the most from affirmative action. AA was created to help us but isn't specific for yet cacs are killing it because we inspired the law.

Our politicians don't directly address our issues because they have nothing to gain from it but everything to lose. Historically, our problems are only addressed when manage to embarrass the nation on the world stage or we fukk up the country's money. The yt voting block will continue to kick our can down the road until they are removed from power or until this country collapses.
 

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How do you disagree with her if you listen to her full clip (which starts at 0:56)?

She's basically saying be smart about it, if you focus on benefits for black Americans only EVERY other race (that hates us) is going to get mad or feel left out. She even says she tried that before and lost because of it.

It is 2022, we can not afford to not understand the game in this country. We need to move smart, seize power, and bring about the changes we want to see.

She wasn't even being that subtle about that being her intention in this interview either. Like come on.


Facts.

Cac Republicans have a full understanding that you can't show your full intentions while running for office. As an example, the conservative justices all said that they would respect the roe vs Wade decision during their hearings but they all ended up flipping.
 
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If the white liberals are really our 'allies', why would the dems lose votes when they are doing something for one of their allies? Somehow mentioning Asians, LGBT, Mexicans, etc., aren't making the party 'lose votes'...



Because America is anti black. The cac republicans are flat out staunchly anti black and the Dems either ignore black folks or are mildly anti black. That’s why the reverse migration where black folks move back to the southern states is the only solution. It would increase our national influence.
 
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