Lewis Black
Superstar
what? If people cans say nikka then spic should be allowed.
Star tells GD JoJo Capone "Hurry up & put tht work N on ROSS or im going 2 shyt on u"
- Thread starter WEED
- Start date
what? If people cans say nikka then spic should be allowed.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
your whole stance is irrational...you're basically saying star should be one thing only...you do realise HIMAN BEINGS have more than one side to their personalities you know
Actually fukk it, I'm not having this discussion with you anymore...you're too closed minded...ole saint holier than thou ass nikka
I better not see you in any type of gangsta rap threads praising the music
Oh and before you churn out cliche coli posts, no I'm not mad...
ol full of excuses ass nikka
ol you not real, unless you live your lyrics that you spit in a booth, while working on an album that's being funded by a record company, in order to make profit, ass nikka
-bu bu you were talking about how you like the violence in the movies, then how could you say you a muslim/christian?
-bu bu you had said you respect women, so why you calling them bytches and hoes
-bu bu you were just in a thread talking about being responsible, then why you in a gangsta rap thread
-bu bu I'm a human, I make mistake
who really sound irrational breh?
This is why it's important to make a clear distinction between entertainment and reality. That line is too blur to the point that nikkas are afraid of violating some fake meaning of what it means to be real. If you can't make a distinction between entertainment and reality, then you can't begin to claim you are real . If you can't see how it's fukked up that a black dude could make light of a black community problem, but then make sure not to make light of a non-black community problem, then you can't claim to be real
Stop using extreme summaries of my argument inorder to try to undermine it and skew the clear points I'm making. Your holier than thou argument is a poor attempt at you to skew my argument in suggesting I'm asking star to live a monk life. That's the typical actions of a nikka always trying to avoid responsibility of their actions. This is not surprising attempt from you since you also view "giving back to the community" messages as a cliche
By the way, Star was never in the Latin Kings, he said he use to hang with them and smoking up shyt, until nikkas started putting in that street work, he step back. Also he said he was an honorary member of the Terror Squad, he was not down with them
kermit da hustla
Banned
Is this meant to be some type of diss?
Nope. Just a factual statement.
Bruh, how many stories have we heard of neighborhood drug dealers taking care of little kids, but while making the same neighborhood not safe for the kids because of the drug dealers business. Star giving you a free book, does not take away from his conflicting messages when on the mic
If he's ying and yang, then dude would've been just as reckless now with te Newton, as with the Aaliyah joke, for the same quest to get a buzz. But yet he chose not to, however, with the Chicago high murder rate, he's asking a Chicago based gang to put in work on another black man for the buzz
How many more people will harp on that Hov's verse, while ignoring his other verses and songs that discuss social problems?
He spits whatever in the booth, but when out of the booth, he's not promoting stereotypical behavior. That's how it should be. He's not bluring the lines between entertainment and reality, like Star and many other rappers are doing
U just contradicted yaself.....u just made a defense for Jay Z's mixed messages yet slammed Star when he does the same. I dont get what u mean when u say "outside of the booth" because Star on the mic is the same as jay in the booth.....what "stereotypical behavior" is Star known for off the mic?
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
In the booth, rappers in their creative space. Like actors on stage and film, writers with their pens and papers, are able to PRETEND to be someone/something else. Once outside their creative space, they are back to being themselves. Unlike many rappers, Hov and Nas, have made a conscious effort to make a clear distinction between being in the booth and out of it. They don't promote stereotypical behavior during interviews or when just chilling, when outside the booth inorder to be considered authentic
Star, unlike Hov and Nas, don't have many interviews conducted to promote himself when he's not behind the mic. He's a "personality" behind the mic, who constantly claim that his persona on the mic is who he is. So, when he chooses to be reckless about one community problem, while consciously making sure not to for another, then he becomes another agent of the conditioning of black folks. Where it's fine to minimize your community problems, because "that's just how shyt be," while other communities problems are due to a few "bad apples in the bunch," so it's natural to be more worried and responsible when showing respect and concern to those stories
Again, black folks have countless examples of how to make millions of dollars at the expense of their community in entertainment, politics, and business
In the booth, rappers in their creative space. Like actors on stage and film, writers with their pens and papers, are able to PRETEND to be someone/something else. Once outside their creative space, they are back to being themselves. Unlike many rappers, Hov and Nas, have made a conscious effort to make a clear distinction between being in the booth and out of it. They don't promote stereotypical behavior during interviews or when just chilling, when outside the booth inorder to be considered authentic
Star, unlike Hov and Nas, don't have many interviews conducted to promote himself when he's not behind the mic. He's a "personality" behind the mic, who constantly claim that his persona on the mic is who he is. So, when he chooses to be reckless about one community problem, while consciously making sure not to for another, then he becomes another agent of the conditioning of black folks. Where it's fine to minimize your community problems, because "that's just how shyt be," while other communities problems are due to a few "bad apples in the bunch," so it's natural to be more worried and responsible when showing respect and concern to those stories
Again, black folks have countless examples of how to make millions of dollars at the expense of their community in entertainment, politics, and business
Nope...still cant feel u....I need u to show specific moments where Nas and Hov, as u said, have made a conscious effort to make a clear distinction between being in the booth and out of it....Cuz I never seen these moments....all through out Hovs career he has said he was a hustler in and out the booth.....Nas claims to be a street disciple and in a way he is. I dont remember any of these dudes openly saying "Yo....this is all an act and im just doing this rap talk stuff as a persona"
and how can what u claim be true when Jay Z got exposed for fronting on his ownership of the NETS. wasnt that a big deal last year that Jay was putting on a show like he was some top boss owner and then the real owners brought him back to life by exposing his real place and that all he has is crumbs compared to the real owners? How come hov didnt sepereate the image he was giving with the reality like U claim he does?
"Tone Trump got that work in Philly over the weekend. How can you get that work in your own city?? The chopper was supposed to come out!!! It's too many f*ckboys in the industry, ladies and gentlemen. n!ggas gettin asked for drops, gettin chased...n!ggas threatening to sue n!ggas..."
Troy Torain 2016
Troy Torain 2016
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
if you can't see the difference in how Hov and Nas carry themselves outside the booth versus some other rappers, then I can't do nothing for you. If you want to give Star all the props cause he gave you a free ebook, while ignoring what's more important, the shyt he says behind the mic, then do you
Now you talking about Hov ownership stake in the company? What does that have to do with anything? Hov is breaking bread with non-hip hop entities all while keeping it Hiphop. No bullshyt chatter about how much work a gang needs to put into the street inorder to be considered real
if you can't see the difference in how Hov and Nas carry themselves outside the booth versus some other rappers, then I can't do nothing for you. If you want to give Star all the props cause he gave you a free ebook, while ignoring what's more important, the shyt he says behind the mic, then do you
You're confusing. all 3 Star, Nas, and jay have said reckless things and positive things off and on the mic. I dont get how u can just single out Star for this 1 reckless thing. Didnt Nas at one time put a bounty of Funk Master flexs chain? Couldnt that have brought harm to Flex? I dont see no difference between that and what Star is saying about wanting to see GDs putting in work.
I only brought up The nets to point out how Hov ran with the impression that he was bigger then he really was. Further proving that Hov fronts on an image that is seperate from reality contrary to what u say.
Why are u denying impact? Hov is way more popular then star and Hov had a popular album in 2011 where he dedicates a song to Black women callled "Thats My bytch" and has another popular song with the word "N*gga" in the title for the whole world to recite. Mind you Jay did all this at 40+ while Malcolm X at 39 died trying to portray Black women as the opposite of a bytch and Black men as the opposite of a "N*gga"......Jays impact on the world is a backwards step from what Malcolm was trying to portray as a positive image of the Blackman in America to The World. Star is just a byproduct of a culture Jay Z is more popular in......Jay Z had a song called 1 900 Hustler that guides drug selling. That song is way more popular the Stars rant on this one youtube episode. Im sure there are many misguided people who went to that song as a guide to do illegal activity. I'd put money on it. Yet Rick Ross is still alive and No GDs have killed him because Star wants to see work...This math alone tells me that Jay z has the more damaging impact on the culture.
Isaiah Bradley
Banned
this entire BS rant is why there needs to be a clear understanding and distinction between reality and fiction, in the booth and out of the booth antics. You caught up in trivial BS [bu bu he's not a 92% owner], while ignoring the most important fact of him being an owner, and representing hiphop culture
Your rant is all over the place. Bringing up Malcolm X to make an argument against Hov in the booth antics, while defending Star's encouragement of stereotypical behavior and star making light of black on black violence is clown status. Again, Star's main access to the world is behind that mic during his shows. Unlike an artist, who also have interviews to compliment their music. If Star had cameras and media following like an artist, then we could talk. But he doesn't, so using his main access to the world as a vehicle to promote stereotypical behavior for buzz is BS. He clearly is reckless part of the time and on certain topics, and about certain people
You obviously don't comprehend the concept and difference of being in the booth and outtah the booth as an artist VS being on the mic as an on-air personality. Which isn't surprising because since you got a free pdf from Star, and not Hov, that some how proves one person is more real than the other.
Nas clearly knew he was wrong and has made mention of that in many interviews since, when have Star done that? will he? the answer is obviously not since that's his way of getting a buzz, be reckless towards certain community reality
Notorioushnic
Pro
Even though Star is a flip flopping ass nikka. He's one of the few and real entertaining personalities in the game.
He literally told JoJo Capone DIRECTLY to put up and shut up. Put that tough talk into action. How can you not respect that? Many dudes would have been scared shytless to even bring that into Capone's direction
He literally told JoJo Capone DIRECTLY to put up and shut up. Put that tough talk into action. How can you not respect that? Many dudes would have been scared shytless to even bring that into Capone's direction
i think they take him too serious...but i do also understand what one poster said about his double standard portrayals but agree or disagree wit his views the nicca genuine in his convictions and he walk the walk......... how niccaz dont respect that after seeing the endless amount of spineless radio and tv personalities say one thing and then suk schlong when the person is at the radio
mortuus est
Veteran
Im not feeling you dude. Your whole argument has no merit cuz Star didnt encourage anything...All Star did was respoind to something that was already out there.........Satr said that he knows the history of the GD's and that if they dont put in work then it will be a bad look because GD's dont bluff. Thats truth not encouragment. LOL..u sound silly...so basically u saying that 1 man who isnt as popular as he use to be has the power to influence a gang of thousands? Ha! Ross is still alive so obviously he isnt encouraging sh*t.
meanwhile JayZ had Gwyneth Paltrow thinking it was cool to say "nikkas In Paris 4 Real" on Twitter while a bunch of uncle toms like Russel Simmons, The Dream and even Nas for christ sake coming to thsi white womans defense.....SMH....That was a bad look in 2012. No one was talking about what star said about the GDs yet Jay Z had whites thinking it was ok to use that word in a sly way.......
Like I said...Jay has the bigger influence then Star. U sound silly.
it wasnt a pdf....it was a physical book. LOL U cant get a PDF in the mail. the fact that dude paid postage and handling throws everything u said prior about how Star will interact with someone only if its money involved. thats why i brought that up homie. Neither Jay Z or Nas have ever came out of their pocket for me.....
u lost me....why should Star say he is wrong when all he is doing is asking to see that GD keep his word. I dont see any wrong in that myself because if someone who is claiming to be a gangster is talking greasy and they have a history of putting in work then yes it would be a bad look if they didnt do anything after talking greasy.
i can tell from your responses u have no connections with the streets at all because u sound like an outsider with yopur responses.....Logic and reason are one thing but you sound like you dont know how things move. Wat do u want Star to do? Tell the GDs to stop the violence? Ha!
Nas was wrong when he came to Gwyneth Paltrow's defense like a captain save a hoe when she used the N word on Twitter. Nas went as far as saying he'd slap someone in the face for that white girl. A real head shaking moment in Hip Hop. When nas came to that white gurls defense it was all over white media because they found a good monkey to co sign that white gurls BS. Mind you this was outside of the booth.