Stateless Society

[DEAD7]

Funny that you point to racism, being that it was birthed by capitalism

You wouldn't have to participate... but you wouldn't have the option of oppressing others, either.

Wouldn't have to, they'd be oppressing themselves by participating in socialism.

 

[JahFocus CS]

Wouldn't have to, they'd be oppressing themselves by participating in socialism.

I think this article and this article (I do take issue with the romanticization of Bacon's Rebellion, but otherwise it is quite good) will help you to better understand the link between racism and capitalism. Seriously breh, read them. The second one is shorter than the first and more to the point, but the first provides more systemic context.

And

 

[Madvillain]

 

[Poitier]

A quick read of Jewish, Arab, Christian or Greco-Roman history would show how dumb that quote is.

Capitalism strengthen racism, it did not create it.

 

[Madvillain]

A quick read of Jewish, Arab, Christian or Greco-Roman history would show how dumb that quote is.

Capitalism strengthen racism, it did not create it.

Racism, certainly as we know it, is a product of capitalism. I happened to have some pages on my HD from Ahmed Shawki's Black Liberation & Socialism and there are some pieces missing cuz I'm too lazy to go back.

 

[Poitier]

Racism, certainly as we know it, is a product of capitalism. I happened to have some pages on my HD from Ahmed Shawki's Black Liberation & Socialism and there are some pieces missing cuz I'm too lazy to go back.

No man

 

[DEAD7]

"in its modern form, has not always existed"
Stopped reading here... morphed it, changed it, strengthened it, etc. =/= created it.



@ the very idea

 

[JahFocus CS]

"in its modern form, has not always existed"
Stopped reading here... morphed it, changed it, strengthened it, etc. =/= created it.



@ the very idea

The author wrote, "certainly in its modern form," probably to preempt critics who would talk about examples of xenophobia and tribalism in earlier human societies.

But did you read the articles I linked? Madvillain said that some pages were missing from what he posted, so it probably isn't as clear as it could be. The articles I linked provide more evidence and deepen the argument.

On a side note, of course capitalism did not create every social phenomenon in the world today. After all, it is a fairly recent development. But it has shaped/conditioned every social phenomenon and directed them to its ends. So capitalism didn't create xenophobia, etc. But these concepts were handed down and, under the capitalist mode of production, shaped to create new concepts (e.g., racism) that fit the conditions of the era.

 

[Poitier]

"in its modern form, has not always existed"
Stopped reading here... morphed it, changed it, strengthened it, etc. =/= created it.



@ the very idea

There are literally volumes of literature written by arabs claiming black skin is inferior before the Transatlantic slave trade

 

[JahFocus CS]

On the forum homepage I kept seeing "Ignored Member" as the last person to reply, and I was like I don't remember a user with that username...

Then I realized it was Poitier

 

[Poitier]

On the forum homepage I kept seeing "Ignored Member" as the last person to reply, and I was like I don't remember a user with that username...

Then I realized it was Poitier

Hows that shytty clothing line coming?

 

[CHL]

Hows that shytty clothing line coming?

 

[A Real Human Bean]

"Can anyone point me in the direction of literature on how a society without "the state" would function"

I think I commented on this else where, but a great example is how the various anarchist collectives arranged production during the Spanish Civil War. I recommend reading The Anarchist Collectives: Worker's Management in the Spanish Revolution 1936-1939. Most of their production and manufacturing industries, when collectively organized, were a lot more efficient and productive than under the capitalist mode of production.

 

[DEAD7]

Hows that shytty clothing line coming?