States Spend 3x more on Prisoners than they do on Students

[OfTheCross]

The disparity between prison and school spending is not unique to South Carolina — in fact, it’s the same across the country. We compared the most recent data on state prison spending from the Vera Institute of Justice, a criminal justice think tank, with state-by-state public school expenditures from the National Education Association.

Every state averaged more spending on inmates than students, based on the available data from 2015, which included 45 states. On average, these states spent $11,709 per student, and $33,274 per inmate, or nearly three times more on prisons than schools.

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Maybe if we increased the spending on the students less of them will end up in prison?

Anecdotally, I don't think that prisoner spending is out of line. I'm just surprised that it's so much higher than student spending.

 

[hashmander]

that's the cost of incarcerating people and why most countries aren't interested in mass incarceration like america. but that doesn't mean we need to spend more on education, shyt $11,700 per is a lot of money and should get great results and we don't even get good results. which other country spends higher than that?

 

[Strapped]

Stop profiling certain people & the prison & courts will decrease

 

[Pressure]

that's the cost of incarcerating people and why most countries aren't interested in mass incarceration like america. but that doesn't mean we need to spend more on education, shyt $11,700 per is a lot of money and should get great results and we don't even get good results. which other country spends higher than that?

For reference:

The most recent version for 2018 reports that, in 2015, the United States spent approximately $12,800 per student on elementary and secondary education. That is over 35% more than the OECD country average of $9,500.Jul 7, 2019

Also, we're not housing students. I'm sure that that plays a part.

 

[hashmander]

For reference:



Also, we're not housing students. I'm sure that that plays a part.

damn, $1100 more. it's almost laughable the amount of money we spend on elementary and secondary education for the results we're getting.

 

[Pressure]

damn, $1100 more. it's almost laughable the amount of money we spend on elementary and secondary education for the results we're getting.

We're fukking up.

 

[Yapdatfool]

 

[5n0man]

damn, $1100 more. it's almost laughable the amount of money we spend on elementary and secondary education for the results we're getting.

It's the way America teaches.

The public education system isnt designed to make sure kids actually learn the shyt they teach, they just jam as much information as possible, as quickly as possible,

 

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that's the cost of incarcerating people and why most countries aren't interested in mass incarceration like america. but that doesn't mean we need to spend more on education, shyt $11,700 per is a lot of money and should get great results, and we don't even get good results. Which other country spends higher than that?

I'm not sure what you're saying. So reduce how much is spent on education? Is that what you're saying.

 

[88m3]

Lets flip them. Incarcerate less people

 

[hashmander]

I'm not sure what you're saying. So reduce how much is spent on education? Is that what you're saying.

no, just that we should be getting significantly better results for what we're spending. the cost to keep an inmate incarcerated is never going to be equal or less than it costs to educate students. think how horrid (more so than now) the conditions would be in prison if they only spent $12.8k to house and feed inmates (and if they're lucky enough, programs to better themselves). this isn't a comparison about how much total we spend on education vs incarceration. it's about the average spent on the individual, student or prisoner. $12.8k per student is more than enough to get great results. $33k isn't an obscene amount to spend per prisoner. we should be striving for less prisoners, not less spent on them while they are incarcerated.

 

[kdslittlebro]

It's the way America teaches.

The public education system isnt designed to make sure kids actually learn the shyt they teach, they just jam as much information as possible, as quickly as possible,

Also there are too many 100-or-less-student districts paying superintendents 6 figures. Not saying pack kids into schools/classrooms, but there should be some refiguring when it comes to districts. At least from the states I’ve been in.

 

[Strapped]

The system keeps adding street cops to profile & stop people for bs

 

[5n0man]

Also there are too many 100-or-less-student districts paying superintendents 6 figures. Not saying pack kids into schools/classrooms, but there should be some refiguring when it comes to districts. At least from the states I’ve been in.

That and teachers are criminally underpaid for such a hard job.

It's hard to imagine a teacher being inspired to do a good job earning what I made doing warehouse work.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

That and teachers are criminally underpaid for such a hard job.

It's hard to imagine a teacher being inspired to do a good job earning what I made doing warehouse work.

On top of that,having to pay for their own Supplies for the Class