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obama and biden both used the ice department to deport illegal immigrants

it just wasnt publicized like it is now, trump didnt start ICE
We know this

He’s not using ICE for what it is naturally intended for anymore.

When Barack and Biden used them, there wasn’t any of this.

This is a Nazi-playbook. You beat it by doing whatever the others did to beat the playbook, adapting to modern times like they are apparently doing.

It wasn’t targeting people on the streets, wearing masks, and killing civilians or immigrants. TF is yall nikkas trying to do in here?
 

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Obama used ICE to deport more illegal immigrants than Trump, and nobody said anything. All of this is fake outrage:

Barack Obama's administration deported more immigrants than any other in the last 3 decades, according to official figures analyzed by FactCheck. It carried out 2,749,706 deportations in 8 years, an average of 942 per day. During his first term (2009-2012), it averaged 1,088 per day; in the second (2013-2016), the daily average dropped to 794.

Between January and June 2025, Donald Trump's administration carried out 128,039 deportations, averaging 810 per day, fewer than in the years with the highest deportations under Obama:

Obama didn't have ICE out there on the streets carrying out the way they're acting now. He kept them constrained to the border, and whenever they did do street work, it wasn't under these extremities. The public rarely ever had this many interactions with ICE, let alone knew if they were even in the area, because they kept a low profile without causing mass hysteria amongst the public.
 

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Stop it. ICE existed but they're obviously way, way more aggressive under Trump.

If you support ICE then just say it and make your case :yeshrug: let's not waste time with false equivalence
no its not a this or that type situation

yall use 1 or 2 logic for everything and wonder why shyt isnt working out

i already stated how i felt about it, but once again many of these states created a context for this to be as bad as it is

Obama used ICE to deport more illegal immigrants than Trump, and nobody said anything. All of this is fake outrage:

Barack Obama's administration deported more immigrants than any other in the last 3 decades, according to official figures analyzed by Factchequeado. It carried out 2,749,706 deportations in 8 years, an average of 942 per day. During his first term (2009-2012), it averaged 1,088 per day; in the second (2013-2016), the daily average dropped to 794.

Between January and June 2025, Donald Trump's administration carried out 128,039 deportations, averaging 810 per day, fewer than in the years with the highest deportations under Obama:

thats why I say the media has been a weapon for both parties but in the "decentralized" media period we are in

where trump is going directly to twitter before the normal outlets is half the reason things are so sensationalized

where you got people constantly saying they are unbiased while pushing news to their handfuls of people saying well atleast im not the mainstream media. Most people do not comprehend how much they have been pushed into proverbial kennels

thats also why I still say these political threads should not be in this subforum but in the higher learning subforum or honestly in the lower learning subforum (should start one) because politics is not some miracle field its a field of popularity and financial influence
 

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Let them destroy themselves.
Democracy is literally burning right now, with smoke billowing, and this is the message you have for a forum full of black people? You're advising the people thinking of protesting or the ones actively protesting to stand down? why? "its not our fight" is not a good reason. Its every citizen's fight. The constitution never mentions anything about skin color.

Regardless of who you are or what color your skin is.....If you can't stand up to tyranny within your rights, then you are accepting of tyranny.
 

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We know this

He’s not using ICE for what it is naturally intended for anymore.

When Barack and Biden used them, there wasn’t any of this.

This is a Nazi-playbook. You beat it by doing whatever the others did to beat the playbook, adapting to modern times like they are apparently doing.

It wasn’t targeting people on the streets, wearing masks, and killing civilians or immigrants. TF is yall nikkas trying to do in here?
revisionist history

if the nazis didnt invade france its arguable that britain, us and france etc would have just let him chill

and even when he invaded france, half the country was for it (see vichy france)

it wasnt until he bombed england that the monarchy said it was too far. In case you didnt know they were sympathetic to his cause in the first place

once again yall gotta take the media talking points out of your mouth and learn to put your own thought forward.

because the secret of WW2 was the rampant use of the occult to push propaganda, which is still going now...all the intelligence agencies got together back then and learned what did and didnt work
 

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Obama didn't have ICE out there on the streets carrying out the way they're acting now. He kept them constrained to the border, and whenever they did do street work, it wasn't under these extremities. The public rarely ever had this many interactions with ICE, let alone knew if they were even in the area, because they kept a low profile without causing mass hysteria amongst the public.

Obama did have ICE out in the streets, you get more bee's with honey than with vinegar. You have Malcolm X in your profile and you should have heard Malcom talk about liberals and conservatives:

 

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Democracy is literally burning right now, with smoke billowing, and this is the message you have for a forum full of black people? You're advising the people thinking of protesting or the ones actively protesting to stand down? why? "its not our fight" is not a good reason. Its every citizen's fight. The constitution never mentions anything about skin color.

Regardless of who you are or what color your skin is.....If you can't stand up to tyranny within your rights, then you are accepting of tyranny.
have you lost your right to vote or something?

the consitution has protections (see civil rights act) but once again its a governing document in theory each new wave of elected officials can change the document to suit the times (which was the goal of the founding fathers)

those original folks were white "free" landowners the concept for lifelong jobs/servitude was not articulated to them. Their main priority was freedom from the monarchial governments of the old world. Everything else was secondary to that, they even wrote about it where even though many of them intellectually were opposed to slavery many of them still held racist views

in fact so did lincoln he just was pro-abolition

im bothered that most people here dont seem to understand that the biggest part of civil rights collective acceptance was because of "mutual culture sharing" at that time. How any of yall can do the cac this cac that but then cry foul about racism is crazy to me.
 

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Watching federally backed militias tear families apart, brutalize people going to work and doing their daily activities, powered by an intelligence apparatus trained on decades of data used in the hyper-policing of Black communities across the U.S. (and developed with Israeli intelligence services that have been deployed in both Palestine and East Africa) - and saying this has nothing to do with us is pure, uncut c00nery and cowardice.

Get off your knees brother.
 

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@Chrishaune why do you feel comfortable telling black people what they need to be doing when you are not black?

Because the majority of black people don't understand the secret societies white folks have built up to support white supremacy.

You are helping them by being manipulated to fight for their political systems and their economic systems.
 

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revisionist history

if the nazis didnt invade france its arguable that britain, us and france etc would have just let him chill

and even when he invaded france, half the country was for it (see vichy france)

it wasnt until he bombed england that the monarchy said it was too far. In case you didnt know they were sympathetic to his cause in the first place

once again yall gotta take the media talking points out of your mouth and learn to put your own thought forward.

because the secret of WW2 was the rampant use of the occult to push propaganda, which is still going now...all the intelligence agencies got together back then and learned what did and didnt work

No shyt, that’s the problem here isn’t it.

There is no playbook for it right now because it took a World War to get them TF out of here… mainly with the U.S.’s help.

The help has been compromised. We are aware of this. Some of us do not need the history lessons


My question to you is why do you keep bringing up ICE being used by Democrats when we knew that already. This isn’t the ICE that were used by them and they’re no longer just “deporting immigrants”.
 

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It's not because the people coordinating it never intend to help black people.

"It's our fight, too" doesn't mean we have to go out and protest or get busy. Like you said, "they never intended to help Black people", which is why you sit back until they start intending to help Black people. We can always be ready to fight though. But taking up an apathetic attitude isn't it. Taking a phrase from Trump, "stand back and stand by", i.e. wait until they come to an understanding that whatever they allow to happen to Black folk will come back on them, and that Black folk need reparative justice.

:manny:
 

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Obama did have ICE out in the streets, you get more bee's with honey than with vinegar. You have Malcolm X in your profile and you should have heard Malcom talk about liberals and conservatives:


malcolm also went to africa, discovered actual islam and realized he was brainwashed

if you understood the ramifications of the "Moorish Science Temples" with respect to whats in the bible you would be alarmed at what the NOI has put on the black people they supposedly care for (IE Arabic servitude and biblical curses)
 

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"It's our fight, too" doesn't mean we have to go out and protest or get busy. Like you said, "they never intended to help Black people", which is why you sit back until they start intending to help Black people. We can always be ready to fight though. But taking up an apathetic attitude isn't it. Taking a phrase from Trump, "stand back and stand by", i.e. wait until they come to an understanding that whatever they allow to happen to Black folk will come back on them, and that Black folk need reparative justice.

:manny:

You don't understand their system is going to collapse.
 
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