So was KD. And look at him when he has no superteam.
Bron stacked the deck to win his titles. If Steph's head to head record against him doesn't count then neither does LeBron when compared to other greats.
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So was KD. And look at him when he has no superteam.
Bron stacked the deck to win his titles. If Steph's head to head record against him doesn't count then neither does LeBron when compared to other greats.
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I can legit see steph getting 2 more before he retires. Dude iswhen he cooking
And the scary part is he doesn’t rely on athleticism..shooters can shoot forever.
The Warriors won a championship and had the best regular season record of all-time before adding the second best player in the league. Nothing in NBA history compares to it. Nobody is discrediting Steph but only the most delusional Lebron haters give any merit to Steph's finals record against Lebron when it was really Lebron vs. Steph and KD for most of their finals matchups.
If Lebron had a stacked deck then so did damn near every all-time great.. Lebron's teams were not any more stacked. If you think Lebron winning with 23 year old Kyrie is unfair then you better feel the same about Kareem winning with Oscar and Magic, Magic winning with Kareem and Worthy, MJ winning with Pippen, Shaq winning with Kobe and Wade, Bird winning with Mchale, Wilt winning with West, Curry winning with KD, and so on.
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so this were u dudes went
As I've posted numerous times here lebron defenders want things 1 way for him but not for others. You want to make it perfectly ok to join former world champions and all stars when it's lebron but oh when the warriors get Durant its "no fair" smh basically its ok to have a super team but not ok to have a super "duper" team smh. Which is ridiculous.
Lebron said it was ok to stack the decks and run through teams which is why he was at a rally saying not 5 not 6 not 7 etc. So when he runs into a superteam I don't want to hear that shyt. Far as the warriors 73-9 record we are not going to use that as some evidence that they were some already dominate squad when they were just down 3-1 to okc a series prior to being up 3-1 to the cavs. No one is a hater for seeing it that way. There is just simply a different perspective then the lebron apologist want to hear. When lebron was with Wade there wasn't a team close top to bottom with the talent and depth. Lebron essentially joined 2 of the guys who could have been a issue for him coming out the East. If curry is discredited for joining up with Durant then lebron is discredited for joining Wade. Period.
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so this were u dudes went
Your totally missing the point of my post. I'm not here arguing against superteams. I'm arguing against lebron forming one then people discrediting steph for forming one. If steph did it better then kudos to him. Far as lebron I don't want to hear that shyt because lebron said it's perfectly OK to do so. We could go back and forth about the creation of superteams another time. My point is lebron was for it when it benefited him. If some players got together and out did him doing what he said it was ok to do then its fair game. But you all are not going to come in here throwing a flag on the play with Durant joining steph after lebron joined Wade and Bosh.
And Kevin Love. You seem to be forgetting he was a 26ppg/13rpg 2nd team All-NBA player before he joined LeBron.
Those other greats never had a 3rd option who was considered a top 10 player in the league just 2 years earlier.
Bron stans like to pretend his teams weren't stacked by conveniently ignoring how good Bosh and Love were before they had LeBron ruin their careers.
Wait, how in the hell did Bron ruin Chris Bosh’s career? Dude had a health issue if I’m not mistaken.
Y’all just be saying anything.
Bron stans are furious because steph is 3-1 against Bron. They say it's because Steph had to run and get KD to beat Bron, ok let's run with that.
This should also mean Bron needed Dwade, a top 5 player in his own right, to get his 1st two rings.
Or is that different
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Bro it’s mostly trolls on here who don’t know what the fukk they’re talking about.
The only ones who bring up super teams are those lames who type out “LeGBT”. Personally I don’t care what players do if they think it’s for the good of their career but when they bring up that you can’t just ignore Curry & them forming a super team because they couldn’t beat the Cavs when both teams were healthy.
Chris Bosh was blamed a lot for the Heat's shortcomings during that Era same with Kevin Love. Bron stans and the media used them as whipping boys for Bron's failures.
You mean the Kevin Love that missed the 2015 finals and was injured in the 2016 finals? Not only did he miss games 2 and 3 of the 2016 finals but he averaged 8 PPG on 36 FG% in the series. Dude averaged 4 PPG in the games the Cavs won. He was an injured non-factor. Every single great had a better third option in their championship runs.
Anyways, even so your premise is wrong. Magic and Kareem had Worthy, Duncan had Ginobli, KD and Steph had Klay/Draymond, MJ had Rodman, Bird had Parrish. All more impactful than prime Love ever was. He was a good stats bad team guy.
From what I recall Bosh had a below average first season (10/11), but after that he was good. You can't expect the man to have the same averages as he did in Toronto.
That's what happens when you play with LeBron James. He turns 2nd team All-NBA stars into bums.
The Heat had terrible depth: washed Mike Bibby, Carlos Arroyo, washed Illgauskas, Joel Anthony, Eddie House, James Jones were key members of their playoff rotation. The Heat struggled in the 2012 playoffs because Bosh went down and cats like Dexter Pittman and Joel Anthony had to take his place. That's why the Heat isn't analogous to the Warriors at all, the Warriors were able to sign KD without losing any significant pieces because of the rising cap and Curry signing below market value. That was a nearly impossible situaton.Also, the Warriors won a championship in 2015, won 73 games and returned to the finals in 2016, and just won a championship in 2022 with their main pieces approaching their mid 30s. KD on that squad is definitely an unprecedent super-team and they're certainly a dominate squad without him but especially with him. Nobody is discrediting their championships, though. It's just disingenuous to say Lebron lost to Curry ignoring that Lebron was going up against Steph AND KD. Nobody is beating that team.