Steph Curry is bad but Ray Allen the GOAT shooter

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Alot of people are dismissing that ray played the 1st half of his career under the old rules where u cpuld handcheck and actually play defense on guys. You cant touch curry and half his shots come with no contest. Great shooter but we gotta learn context
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Curry takes more contested threes. Ray even in his prime would run around all day trying get open.


Y'all nostalgic nikkaz are so annoying to argue with
 
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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
Alot of people are dismissing that ray played the 1st half of his career under the old rules where u cpuld handcheck and actually play defense on guys. You cant touch curry and half his shots come with no contest. Great shooter but we gotta learn context

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Please explain how handchecking would affect a guy coming off screens and taking open threes.

Also, where is the variation in stats to support this idea, he made 3.3 threes in 2001-2002 with handchecking, and 3.4 threes in 2005-2006 without it.

Basically your point is stupid :ld:
 

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Please explain how handchecking would affect a guy coming off screens and taking open threes.

Also, where is the variation in stats to support this idea, he made 3.3 threes in 2001-2002 with handchecking, and 3.4 threes in 2005-2006 without it.

Basically your point is stupid :ld:

Not to mention Steph goes to the line less despite being a much better ball handler.
 

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Too many factors involved to determine one guy is a better shooter than another overall, you have to be more specific/break it down imo. And if your just going off of strictly percentages then Shaq and DeAndre Jordan can be goats:mjlol:

Between the two I want Ray taking the last shot for my team as of right now. Let's see what Steph does the rest of his career I can't put him over Ray yet.

I'm waiting on a Steph Curry > Michael Jordan thread to pop up next.
:what: Breh. People are only mentioning percentage because their attempts are near eachother to its a moot point to even bring it up. This is not comparing a center making 3 of the 6 3pters he took in a season and his percentage. We are talking about two guys who take hundreds of 3pters a season and their comparative percentages doing so. Threes a reason they have a "minimum attempts" quotient for these type of shooting stats in the history books. I have GOT to know this already.
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This is something that gets overlooked as well. The one advantage Steph has over the older cats is he came into the league during the analytics era where players are not only allowed but encouraged to chuck up threes to their hearts' content. Kyle Korver is an All Star and dropped 20+ in that game in this era. Think about that for a second.

How is that an advantage to Curry?:what::mjlol:
 

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Who is the best at something has always been subjective and abstract to determine, even when you have numbers to do so because there are too many variables. But 3pt shooting is the one exception. There is nothing more definitive in non-timed sports. So long as you attempted enough shots, if you have the highest percentage while also being a volume shooter, you are the best.
 

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How is that an advantage to Curry?:what::mjlol:
Right. So basically, when the league is geared toward defending the perimeter in a league that has more perimeter shooters than ever before, the guy who as at the top during a time where its the hardest to be AT the top as shooter, is doing less than someone when perimeter defense had just started to take hold and there werent a plethora of shooters to compete with.
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According to my neighbor, Walter Davis is one of the most underappreciated shooters of all times.

They hardly have any footage of him on YouTube.

This is when he was :flabbynsick: playing for the Nuggets
 

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Some of you are operating off of nostalgia. Its a biiter pill for you to swallow because the new model isn't as near & dear to you as the older one.
Curry is the better shooter. Let it go.
Hasn't the guy already claimed a couple of Ray's 3 pt records, including the post season record?
 
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Here we go again:stopitslime:

Ray Allen is not better shooter than Curry. Curry can shoot in various ways. His off the dribble shooting is second to none. It's much harder to shoot when you're the pg/main ball handler. Not to mention being 2-3 inches shorter. Ray Allen still shot less than 40% in 12 seasons. Curry never shot less than 42.5% so far.

Ray Allen made more threes than any player in the game, but that doesn't mean he was the best shooter ever. He was great shooter, but his record has a lot to do with his work ethic, health, and his team success than his actual shooting ability (which is still way above average). Just like How Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wasn't the best NBA scorer ever.
 
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